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jas1552 · 05-24-2004, 04:49 PM

Moore over simplifies things to mislead people into coming to over simplified conclusions. He's no better than Rush Limbaugh. While I don't believe either of them flat out lie, they're still both full of shit.

50 misleading douche bags

Manga1 · 05-24-2004, 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by bringer
what about the 2nd amendment? i see people bitching about that all day long. i guess they only promote the ones that help them.

Nobody's Second Amendment rights are violated by Moore's movie. He's merely stating his opinion, as is his First Amendment right. Whether Moore's First Amendment rights are being violated with regards to his new movie is another issue altogether.

benc · 05-24-2004, 04:50 PM

My opinion and said this before, is that the premise of what he tries to prove is offbase.

Someone could write in a few paragrahps what they think the premise of one of his movie is, and I would laugh.

If he was truly some independent thinker, he wouldn't be just a left butt kisser. Democrats and Republicans are both part of the same hypocracy. Trying to prove one better than the other is pointless.

Heres an analogy. He is basically the class clown in grade school. The classmates are the left. He will do things to get as big of reaction from his classmates as possible. He will do what they want to see, he will throw an eraser at the teachers head, and do anything anti-authority to please his classmates. He will give his audiance what they want, and they will love him for it.

I suppose thats the goal of any comedian. But people have made him into something more than a comedian.

swoop · 05-24-2004, 04:52 PM

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Originally posted by xenigo
Everyone wants to talk shit about Moore, but nobody backs it up with anything that he's said that's suppposedly untrue. He wouldn't be able to make a film about things that aren't factual, or he'd be slandering and defaming the people he talks about.

So who's he defaming? I think everyone needs to take deep breath, and pull the American flag out of your ass.

Nobody back it up with anything? Sorry to rain on your parade, perhaps you've never researched anything on his movies.

#1 Willie Horton ad in the B.F.C. movie.
There was a caption that reads "Willie Horton released, then kills again", which is untrue.

#2 The scene in the WalMart in Ontario where he made a "no questions asked purchase of ammunition". The Canadian gov't came out and said that scene had to of been fake because a transaction like that would be illegal since you need ID.

bringer · 05-24-2004, 04:52 PM

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Originally posted by Manga1
Nobody's Second Amendment rights are violated by Moore's movie. He's merely stating his opinion, as is his First Amendment right. Whether Moore's First Amendment rights are being violated with regards to his new movie is another issue altogether.

how are his rights being violated?

PMdave · 05-24-2004, 04:56 PM

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Originally posted by bringer

i heard he's making a documentary about saddam now. how he was great to his people and fed the homeless. im sure he probably did that for atleast 1 person at one time or another.

he killed thousands of people and is a big asshole for sure BUT: Iraq was the free-est country in the region.

-woman were allowed (even encouraged) to get educated.
-freedom of religion.
-after gulfwar1 it has become one of the most stable countries in the midle east.

He was unbelievably cruel but maybe that's the only way to go when you want to control a country like Iraq.

bhutocracy · 05-24-2004, 05:08 PM

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Originally posted by Vic Lagina
Michael Moore did not fund this film, so therefore he does not have a say on how it's released. I think that's a kinda important detail to mull over before asking him to release it on the internet.

Stop it with the commonsense.. these blowhards might have to think for more than one second...

Malkmus · 05-24-2004, 07:04 PM

For now:
Yes 55%
No 41%

Keep on voting people

Malkmus · 05-25-2004, 05:47 AM

Corleone · 05-25-2004, 05:53 AM

Rich · 05-25-2004, 06:50 AM

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Originally posted by swoop
Voted NO. Such a windbag. He proclaims that he wants the trught out there in his movies, books etc. But he only wants to promote the "truth" from his side of view. Why not come out with a movie that had some Clinton mishaps while in office?

That's all he did while Clinton was in office. See Roger and Me and his show The Awful Truth, he gave Clinton shit all the time. He calls it like he sees it, Bush apologists hate him and call him a lair because he shows them for what they really are.

riosluts · 05-25-2004, 06:52 AM

umm there should be a "I dont really care" voting option.

hova · 05-25-2004, 06:55 AM

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Rich · 05-25-2004, 06:58 AM

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Originally posted by riosluts
umm there should be a "I dont really care" voting option.

One would assume that if you didn't care about the subject you'd have the common sense not to open the thread.

Rich · 05-25-2004, 07:02 AM

http://www.michaelmoore.com/

His website is down, clearly another right wing conspiracy. Bastards.

Jill_J · 05-25-2004, 07:11 AM

I lkie Moore and think that it would be much better if he was not alone man who tells the true to the spectator

loco12 · 05-25-2004, 07:24 AM

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Originally posted by The Truth Hurts

Yes and that quote is absolutely true. Takes a brave man to make a statement like that which we all know is true. Well done Micheal Moore. A guy that stands up for truth.

Living For Today · 05-25-2004, 07:27 AM

dead set champion.

kowntafit · 05-25-2004, 07:39 AM

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Originally posted by Rictor
I think he's great and we need more Americans like him.

I agree totally.

Milena Dickman · 05-25-2004, 07:57 AM

I've seen Bowling for Columbine and read Stupid White Men. I like both, I like the way he thinks, and I agree with him most of the time. But sometimes he is full of shit too. And he's world aren't much bigger than the US - just like the world of most Americans...

But in a foreigner perspective... I'm positive that the world would be a better place if all Americans were just as stupid as Michael Moore, instead of being mostly as stupid as Bush.

But I'm Brazilian, so what do I know, eh?

Just my

Malkmus · 05-25-2004, 05:52 PM

re-bump

Webby · 05-25-2004, 06:55 PM

PMDave:

Quote:

he killed thousands of people and is a big asshole for sure BUT: Iraq was the free-est country in the region.

-woman were allowed (even encouraged) to get educated.
-freedom of religion.
-after gulfwar1 it has become one of the most stable countries in the midle east.

He was unbelievably cruel but maybe that's the only way to go when you want to control a country like Iraq.

I'm sure Moore would have plenty to say about Iraq.. eg.. How the US (and the rest of the world) knew Saddam was a bully/assasin and for that very reason, the US engaged him to murder the finance minister of Iran on behalf of the US. And also how the US then provided him with weapons to instigate a war against Iran.

The irony was.. Iran had, at that time, a democractically elected government, but that shit opened the doors for extremists to hijack the place - another US fuckup.

I'm sure Moore can catalogue a load of "incidents" and relationships with Saddam and the US goverment - tho I'm sure they last thing they want is to have history quoted back to them :-)

If Moore wants to point fingers at hypocracy - hell, good luck to the guy!

It's well-passed time someone had the balls to quit the media bullshit and provoke some healthier thinking. I think that's what some call "democracy"

Malkmus · 05-25-2004, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Webby
PMDave:
I'm sure Moore can catalogue a load of "incidents" and relationships with Saddam and the US goverment - tho I'm sure they last thing they want is to have history quoted back to them :-)

Malkmus · 05-25-2004, 11:25 PM

Yes 61%
No 35%
167 voters

more voters needed for poll accuracy

webmaster x · 05-25-2004, 11:50 PM

Go, Moore!

Malkmus · 05-26-2004, 09:03 AM

Is there an US site dedicated to popularity polls ?
This poll is very interesting but note enough people voting to have a proper opinion.
Moore does seem to have more people liking him though.

Oncle_Benny · 05-26-2004, 09:10 AM

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Originally posted by EviLGuY
I like him.. not neccesarily his views 100%, but he does make some good points and I like movies that start people thinking.

thats what i'm thinking too.

ytcracker · 05-26-2004, 09:14 AM

moore is a fat idiot

bluff · 05-26-2004, 09:17 AM

I think he's a prototype for left-winged idiots. I don't feel like argumentation at the moment.

Malkmus · 05-26-2004, 02:26 PM

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Originally posted by ytcracker
moore is a fat idiot

Argumentation ?

Malkmus · 05-27-2004, 11:54 AM

For now, almost the double of people who like Michael Moore.

Malkmus · 05-28-2004, 10:55 AM

Another bumb.
Let's try to have at least 200 voters

Malkmus · 06-03-2004, 06:25 AM

the trailer of his new movie is out:
http://www.fahrenheit911.com/trailer

so i'm bringing this poll up again

Face (o_0) · 06-18-2004, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
I anonymously voted:

NO

because I hate those that make up drama and call it a factual documentary just to make tons of money (and makes fun of others that just do things for money).

And, for the record, I'm voting for Kerry. So this isn't some right winger talking.

we have a winar!

baddog · 06-18-2004, 01:07 AM

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Originally posted by Malkmus
For now, the score is tight.

It would have been interesting to have only yank voters.
Outside of the USA, Moore has a quite good image but in the States, things seem slightly different since a lot of people seem to struggle to make him look as an asshole.

he doesn't need our help, and I am not voting for Bush either, but Moore is still an asshole

Mishi · 06-18-2004, 02:52 AM

Michael Moore is a satirist. Satire must be the most misunderstood form of comedy/commetary. Fortunately, most satirists don't care if they're misunderstood - it kind of makes their point(s). Michael Moore is probably laughing equally at the people who love him and the people who hate him.

But...I do think he's starting to believe his own publicity, which will ulitimately be his undoing...in the mean time, I'll laugh along with him.

View Poll Results: Do you like Michael Moore ?
Yes	136	64.15%
No	70	33.02%
Who is Michael Moore	6	2.83%
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05-24-2004, 04:49 PM	#51
jas1552 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Land of the free, home of the brave Posts: 1,462	Moore over simplifies things to mislead people into coming to over simplified conclusions. He's no better than Rush Limbaugh. While I don't believe either of them flat out lie, they're still both full of shit. 50 misleading douche bags Last edited by jas1552; 05-24-2004 at 04:51 PM..

05-24-2004, 04:50 PM	#53
benc Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 788	My opinion and said this before, is that the premise of what he tries to prove is offbase. Someone could write in a few paragrahps what they think the premise of one of his movie is, and I would laugh. If he was truly some independent thinker, he wouldn't be just a left butt kisser. Democrats and Republicans are both part of the same hypocracy. Trying to prove one better than the other is pointless. Heres an analogy. He is basically the class clown in grade school. The classmates are the left. He will do things to get as big of reaction from his classmates as possible. He will do what they want to see, he will throw an eraser at the teachers head, and do anything anti-authority to please his classmates. He will give his audiance what they want, and they will love him for it. I suppose thats the goal of any comedian. But people have made him into something more than a comedian. __________________ Numerous Adult and Non Adult Domains For Sale Such as SlutVideos.com, FitWomen.com Listed on Sedo or can do direct sale

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05-24-2004, 07:04 PM	#58
Malkmus Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: French Riviera Posts: 573	For now: Yes 55% No 41% Keep on voting people

05-25-2004, 05:47 AM	#59
Malkmus Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: French Riviera Posts: 573	bump

05-25-2004, 05:53 AM	#60
Corleone C.R.E.A.M Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,262	Yes

05-25-2004, 07:02 AM	#65
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	http://www.michaelmoore.com/ His website is down, clearly another right wing conspiracy. Bastards.

05-25-2004, 07:11 AM	#66
Jill_J Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,599	I lkie Moore and think that it would be much better if he was not alone man who tells the true to the spectator __________________ Cash Maniacs - around 50 sites, all niches!

05-25-2004, 07:27 AM	#68
Living For Today Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 3,970	dead set champion.

05-25-2004, 07:57 AM	#70
Milena Dickman Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Brazil Posts: 501	I've seen Bowling for Columbine and read Stupid White Men. I like both, I like the way he thinks, and I agree with him most of the time. But sometimes he is full of shit too. And he's world aren't much bigger than the US - just like the world of most Americans... But in a foreigner perspective... I'm positive that the world would be a better place if all Americans were just as stupid as Michael Moore, instead of being mostly as stupid as Bush. But I'm Brazilian, so what do I know, eh? Just my __________________ work hard. play hard. http://www.dickmansdesign.com MSN milenadickman at hotmail.com iCQ # 276820774

05-25-2004, 05:52 PM	#71
Malkmus Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: French Riviera Posts: 573	re-bump

05-25-2004, 11:25 PM	#74
Malkmus Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: French Riviera Posts: 573	Yes 61% No 35% 167 voters more voters needed for poll accuracy

05-25-2004, 11:50 PM	#75
webmaster x Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 4,400	Go, Moore! __________________ Click 9500 FHG Text Descriptions--Only $89!

05-26-2004, 09:03 AM	#76
Malkmus Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: French Riviera Posts: 573	Is there an US site dedicated to popularity polls ? This poll is very interesting but note enough people voting to have a proper opinion. Moore does seem to have more people liking him though.

05-26-2004, 09:14 AM	#78
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05-26-2004, 09:17 AM	#79
bluff Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Bluffville Posts: 6,253	I think he's a prototype for left-winged idiots. I don't feel like argumentation at the moment.

05-27-2004, 11:54 AM	#81
Malkmus Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: French Riviera Posts: 573	For now, almost the double of people who like Michael Moore.

05-28-2004, 10:55 AM	#82
Malkmus Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: French Riviera Posts: 573	Another bumb. Let's try to have at least 200 voters

06-03-2004, 06:25 AM	#83
Malkmus Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: French Riviera Posts: 573	the trailer of his new movie is out: http://www.fahrenheit911.com/trailer so i'm bringing this poll up again

06-18-2004, 02:52 AM	#86
Mishi Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,054	Michael Moore is a satirist. Satire must be the most misunderstood form of comedy/commetary. Fortunately, most satirists don't care if they're misunderstood - it kind of makes their point(s). Michael Moore is probably laughing equally at the people who love him and the people who hate him. But...I do think he's starting to believe his own publicity, which will ulitimately be his undoing...in the mean time, I'll laugh along with him. __________________ Looking for PHP/MySQL solutions? Check out Cyboriginal - custom scripts, installation services and more.