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CyberTraffic · 05-20-2004, 12:34 PM

I'm so goddamned tired of wasting money on sponsors who shave.

A lot of people say it's ok if they shave, because it "evens out".

Well, not cool with me, you give me one solid week of high conversions and then give me zero the next week, I don't forget. This is my money, my resources, my fucking time being spent on your stupid little fucking program and I will not waste it so you can lure hundreds of gallery submitters to your program with high payouts.

It's fucking bullshit and it pisses me the fuck off.

If you're a sponsor who shaves, go to hell, if you're not, beg a webmaster to give you a referral, cause I'm not going to trust you.

Thanks.

TAMPA_TOKER · 05-20-2004, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CyberTraffic
I'm so goddamned tired of wasting money on sponsors who shave.

A lot of people say it's ok if they shave, because it "evens out".

Well, not cool with me, you give me one solid week of high conversions and then give me zero the next week, I don't forget. This is my money, my resources, my fucking time being spent on your stupid little fucking program and I will not waste it so you can lure hundreds of gallery submitters to your program with high payouts.

It's fucking bullshit and it pisses me the fuck off.

If you're a sponsor who shaves, go to hell, if you're not, beg a webmaster to give you a referral, cause I'm not going to trust you.

Thanks.

Nicely said

Jon · 05-20-2004, 12:35 PM

I can't agree with you more.

DR_PHIL · 05-20-2004, 12:36 PM

so many programs competing out there..and they arent even smooth about it half the time

SlickRick · 05-20-2004, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CyberTraffic
I'm so goddamned tired of wasting money on sponsors who shave.

A lot of people say it's ok if they shave, because it "evens out".

Well, not cool with me, you give me one solid week of high conversions and then give me zero the next week, I don't forget. This is my money, my resources, my fucking time being spent on your stupid little fucking program and I will not waste it so you can lure hundreds of gallery submitters to your program with high payouts.

It's fucking bullshit and it pisses me the fuck off.

If you're a sponsor who shaves, go to hell, if you're not, beg a webmaster to give you a referral, cause I'm not going to trust you.

Thanks.

I will never shave from my partners, looking for a new one
check out www.pump-room.pays.com

EviLGuY · 05-20-2004, 12:41 PM

Yeah I hate shaving.. regardless of the bullshit rationalizations. Its about trust to me.

bufferover · 05-20-2004, 12:44 PM

Hmm put their names don't let other felow webmasters to be burned

Danny_C · 05-20-2004, 12:44 PM

There's no rationalization for shaving, or for sending traffic to a program that shaves.

Corleone · 05-20-2004, 12:45 PM

try ccbill sponsors

Manowar · 05-20-2004, 12:48 PM

will have "shaving" covered very soon, no more shaving. ever.

mazafaka · 05-20-2004, 12:55 PM

Serious Coin - the name you can trust.

Doctor Dre · 05-20-2004, 12:57 PM

If you can't afford to be shaved, find a solid CC bill sponsor that rebills well and use it . Only way right now

CyberTraffic · 05-20-2004, 01:15 PM

You guys can't be serious about ccbill.

Bruno · 05-20-2004, 01:20 PM

Dude, CCBill sponsors is THE option for total reliability today.

Our program is processed by CCBill, take a look and you might like it. I want your trust. You can talk to me on iCQ #107450119.

www.18partners.com is our program.

Take care,

Bruno

hydro · 05-20-2004, 01:22 PM

best thing to do is send traffic to your own sites, you really cant shave yourself and even if you do it wont matter

CyberTraffic · 05-20-2004, 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by hydro
best thing to do is send traffic to your own sites, you really cant shave yourself and even if you do it wont matter

hydro, could you icq me please?

blazin · 05-20-2004, 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by TAMPA_TOKER
Nicely said

snowpimp · 05-20-2004, 02:47 PM

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Originally posted by EviLGuY
Yeah I hate shaving.. regardless of the bullshit rationalizations. Its about trust to me.

I shaved my goathe today after 10 years, feels very weird

Zoe_Zoebaboe · 05-20-2004, 02:50 PM

Yeah, we proudly use CCBill for our sites.

The only thing shaved on our sites are our girls!

See Sig

Shonine · 05-20-2004, 02:52 PM

Sorry for the newby quetions but what exactly is shaving ?

SoBeGirl Video · 05-20-2004, 04:00 PM

Shaving = skimming sales..

But let's face it. Sponsors that pay out big money for signups are shaving. We know how long these surfers recurr today. We know the average numbers. Do the math.. IT is impossible to pay out 35 , 40, 45 dollars and more on a singup and stay in biz.

jas1552 · 05-20-2004, 04:11 PM

It wasn't long ago people were saying ccbill has a shave feature in their software and you can't trust any program that uses them. Now people are saying you can only trust sponsors who use ccbill. Is this sarcasm or has ccbill made shaving impossible with their software?

jimmyf · 05-20-2004, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SlickRick
I will never shave from my partners, looking for a new one
check out www.pump-room.pays.com

that's what all of' em say, I've heard that sooooooo many time

that it's

as hell

Oh Sheila · 05-20-2004, 04:18 PM

I find it hard to believe that making sales one week and none the next is shaving.

Think about it, if a sponsor were shaving their #1 priority would be to hide any evidence of it, stealing ALL your sales for an entire week would be far too obvious.

If you were going to shave somebody, would you take ALL of their sales for a full week? No way, too obvious.

aaron · 05-20-2004, 04:18 PM

sig- easy extra $ great for 404

jimmyf · 05-20-2004, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mazafaka
Serious Coin - the name you can trust.

that's what all of' em say, I've heard that sooooooo many time

that it's

as hell

RRRED · 05-20-2004, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CyberTraffic
I'm so goddamned tired of wasting money on sponsors who shave.

A lot of people say it's ok if they shave, because it "evens out".

Well, not cool with me, you give me one solid week of high conversions and then give me zero the next week, I don't forget. This is my money, my resources, my fucking time being spent on your stupid little fucking program and I will not waste it so you can lure hundreds of gallery submitters to your program with high payouts.

It's fucking bullshit and it pisses me the fuck off.

If you're a sponsor who shaves, go to hell, if you're not, beg a webmaster to give you a referral, cause I'm not going to trust you.

Thanks.

If you need a sponsor replacement and have boob related traffic, let me know. We don't shave anything other than shok's ass around here.

I'm a firm believer in making a touch less money and being around for the long haul.

stevecore · 05-20-2004, 04:22 PM

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Originally posted by DR_PHIL
so many programs competing out there..and they arent even smooth about it half the time

talk about smooth...didn't you get caught tampering with sigmonkey?

jimmyf · 05-20-2004, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jas1552
It wasn't long ago people were saying ccbill has a shave feature in their software and you can't trust any program that uses them. Now people are saying you can only trust sponsors who use ccbill. Is this sarcasm or has ccbill made shaving impossible with their software?

You can go to tools in ccbill and see if the sponsor has shave turned on..

the funny thing is they trun this feature on when most of the sponsors where at a big show, some of the ones that had it on got caught...

detoxed · 05-20-2004, 04:24 PM

So many people complain of shaving and never look into the real problem, their traffic.

StRoGE · 05-20-2004, 04:26 PM

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Originally posted by jimmyf
that's what all of' em say, I've heard that sooooooo many time

that it's as hell

Slick Rick I would trust. The other guy....I dunno.

jimmyf · 05-20-2004, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oh Sheila
I find it hard to believe that making sales one week and none the next is shaving.

Think about it, if a sponsor were shaving their #1 priority would be to hide any evidence of it, stealing ALL your sales for an entire week would be far too obvious.

If you were going to shave somebody, would you take ALL of their sales for a full week? No way, too obvious.

do you have any ideal how stupid some people are? just because they own some pay sites does not mean they have a clue.

They might the greatest at marketing and or web design, but any common sense is another thing. because thats what it is common sense. maybe they had the shave turn on Monday, Tues,Wed.
and those were the only days you got any sign ups. Turned it off for rest of the week and you really didn't get any.

jimmyf · 05-20-2004, 04:34 PM

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Originally posted by aaron
sig- easy extra $ great for 404

what the hell is a ticket?

is it money as in CASH, if not I'm not interested

jimmyf · 05-20-2004, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by detoxed
So many people complain of shaving and never look into the real problem, their traffic.

yes you are right it is traffic.

I use 2 get (for years) on average 1/125
now it more like 1/3000 for all but a very few sponsors.

I don't send a sponsor 1,000's of hit never have and I've done just fine until about the last 1 to 1 1/2 years ago

Like I said still do 1/125 with a very few. and no I'm not telling other than the one in my sig.

what a lot of sponsors don't understand, there are some webmaster that do know there traffic.

bdld · 05-20-2004, 04:47 PM

SlickRick · 05-20-2004, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by StRoGE
Slick Rick I would trust. The other guy....I dunno.

Thanks StRoGE

tranza · 05-20-2004, 05:05 PM

Name them....

TheMob · 05-20-2004, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oh Sheila
I find it hard to believe that making sales one week and none the next is shaving.

Think about it, if a sponsor were shaving their #1 priority would be to hide any evidence of it, stealing ALL your sales for an entire week would be far too obvious.

If you were going to shave somebody, would you take ALL of their sales for a full week? No way, too obvious.

that's a reason to do it

Donny · 05-20-2004, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zoe_Zoebaboe
Yeah, we proudly use CCBill for our sites.

The only thing shaved on our sites are our girls!

See Sig

I use CCBill too, and my girls are shaved or bushy, depending on the day.

Donny · 05-20-2004, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shonine
Sorry for the newby quetions but what exactly is shaving ?

Removing hair using a razor.

tony286 · 05-20-2004, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SoBeGirl Video
Shaving = skimming sales..

But let's face it. Sponsors that pay out big money for signups are shaving. We know how long these surfers recurr today. We know the average numbers. Do the math.. IT is impossible to pay out 35 , 40, 45 dollars and more on a singup and stay in biz.

Amen They want the biggest percentage of the sale for life, free hosting, big parties, dinners, limo rides and prizes. Then they are surprised about shaving.

Speedy26 · 05-20-2004, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmyf
You can go to tools in ccbill and see if the sponsor has shave turned on..

the funny thing is they trun this feature on when most of the sponsors where at a big show, some of the ones that had it on got caught...

yea, but you still cant see if they have your cookie set to expire in 6 hrs or 6 months....

CyberTraffic · 05-20-2004, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404
Amen They want the biggest percentage of the sale for life, free hosting, big parties, dinners, limo rides and prizes. Then they are surprised about shaving.

Fuck that shit, all I want is what I earn. Period.

All of that other shit does'nt matter to me, and even if it did, it still does'nt put food on my plate.

Just cause a handful of spoiled celebrity wannabe's want the luxury treatment at some brown-nosing fest does'nt mean anyone needs to accomodate them.

Worldnet · 05-20-2004, 05:25 PM

I'va had it with them myself. Throw you a bone, then nothing. I'm changing all mine over to pay sites.

RRRED · 05-20-2004, 05:30 PM

HS-Trixxxia · 05-20-2004, 05:43 PM

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Originally posted by Speedy26
yea, but you still cant see if they have your cookie set to expire in 6 hrs or 6 months....

Cool you mentioned that! That was one of the first things I thought of putting on the affiliate page when I was preparing it yesterday! I know that I'd like to know what the sponsors I was using before had it set on. The other thing is the processing fee. I never noticed it before (I just deposit the cheques :-) ) then when looking in the CCBill panel, saw that option - now, as an affiliate, why the fuck should I pay your operating costs if you are saying that you pay 50-60% but in reality you charge me another 5-8% of my dollar value to pay for your operating costs?

Anyhow, I made sure webmasters would be more aware of the options a site owner has by stating what I am & can give them.
As for the cookies - I set that to the maximum allowable, 255 days.

Dirty D · 05-20-2004, 05:50 PM

We have what you need to succeed!

CCbill makes sure you get paid every week like clockwork...

Dirty D bows in respect to all of our affiliates

detoxed · 05-20-2004, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmyf
yes you are right it is traffic.

I use 2 get (for years) on average 1/125
now it more like 1/3000 for all but a very few sponsors.

I don't send a sponsor 1,000's of hit never have and I've done just fine until about the last 1 to 1 1/2 years ago

Like I said still do 1/125 with a very few. and no I'm not telling other than the one in my sig.

what a lot of sponsors don't understand, there are some webmaster that do know there traffic.

It is impossible for you to look at a site and say "My traffic will convert 1:300 with this site"

detoxed · 05-20-2004, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SoBeGirl Video

But let's face it. Sponsors that pay out big money for signups are shaving. We know how long these surfers recurr today. We know the average numbers. Do the math.. IT is impossible to pay out 35 , 40, 45 dollars and more on a singup and stay in biz.

If you arent smart enough to figure out how someone can pay $40 a sale then you really shouldnt comment on it. I'm not saying that people paying $40 a sale dont shave, but I'm saying it would easily be done on a normal porn site without shaving.

suesheboy · 05-20-2004, 06:05 PM

This is why I promote hard goods like toys.

I have had consistant conversions for years with LIFETIME commissions. I use my own domains to stear the traffic so bookmarks are on my URL.

I myself are fed up with cheaters in the biz. It gets me sick as ANY shaving should not be tolerated.

For example:

"can I fuck your wife? You won't notice as while I am fucking her she will give you the same amout of sex as before I was fucking her."

...would you accept this? Then why accept it in biz?

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CyberTraffic Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Traffic Land ~ ICQ:213666533 Posts: 2,187	I had to drop 3 fucking sponsors today I'm so goddamned tired of wasting money on sponsors who shave. A lot of people say it's ok if they shave, because it "evens out". Well, not cool with me, you give me one solid week of high conversions and then give me zero the next week, I don't forget. This is my money, my resources, my fucking time being spent on your stupid little fucking program and I will not waste it so you can lure hundreds of gallery submitters to your program with high payouts. It's fucking bullshit and it pisses me the fuck off. If you're a sponsor who shaves, go to hell, if you're not, beg a webmaster to give you a referral, cause I'm not going to trust you. Thanks.

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DR_PHIL Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Never visits the same thread twice Posts: 4,099	so many programs competing out there..and they arent even smooth about it half the time

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EviLGuY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: malta Posts: 12,745	Yeah I hate shaving.. regardless of the bullshit rationalizations. Its about trust to me.

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Danny_C Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,160	There's no rationalization for shaving, or for sending traffic to a program that shaves.

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hydro Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Dirty 3rd Posts: 4,216	best thing to do is send traffic to your own sites, you really cant shave yourself and even if you do it wont matter

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SoBeGirl Video So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Planet earth Posts: 2,493	Shaving = skimming sales.. But let's face it. Sponsors that pay out big money for signups are shaving. We know how long these surfers recurr today. We know the average numbers. Do the math.. IT is impossible to pay out 35 , 40, 45 dollars and more on a singup and stay in biz.

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jas1552 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Land of the free, home of the brave Posts: 1,462	It wasn't long ago people were saying ccbill has a shave feature in their software and you can't trust any program that uses them. Now people are saying you can only trust sponsors who use ccbill. Is this sarcasm or has ccbill made shaving impossible with their software?

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Oh Sheila Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: California Posts: 1,404	I find it hard to believe that making sales one week and none the next is shaving. Think about it, if a sponsor were shaving their #1 priority would be to hide any evidence of it, stealing ALL your sales for an entire week would be far too obvious. If you were going to shave somebody, would you take ALL of their sales for a full week? No way, too obvious. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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