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  • CyberTraffic
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2004
    • 2187
    #1

    I had to drop 3 fucking sponsors today

    I'm so goddamned tired of wasting money on sponsors who shave.

    A lot of people say it's ok if they shave, because it "evens out".

    Well, not cool with me, you give me one solid week of high conversions and then give me zero the next week, I don't forget. This is my money, my resources, my fucking time being spent on your stupid little fucking program and I will not waste it so you can lure hundreds of gallery submitters to your program with high payouts.

    It's fucking bullshit and it pisses me the fuck off.

    If you're a sponsor who shaves, go to hell, if you're not, beg a webmaster to give you a referral, cause I'm not going to trust you.

    Thanks.
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    • TAMPA_TOKER
      So Fucking Banned
      • May 2004
      • 1907
      #2
      Originally posted by CyberTraffic
      I'm so goddamned tired of wasting money on sponsors who shave.

      A lot of people say it's ok if they shave, because it "evens out".

      Well, not cool with me, you give me one solid week of high conversions and then give me zero the next week, I don't forget. This is my money, my resources, my fucking time being spent on your stupid little fucking program and I will not waste it so you can lure hundreds of gallery submitters to your program with high payouts.

      It's fucking bullshit and it pisses me the fuck off.

      If you're a sponsor who shaves, go to hell, if you're not, beg a webmaster to give you a referral, cause I'm not going to trust you.

      Thanks.
      Nicely said

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        • Jon
          Confirmed User
          • Jun 2002
          • 2578
          #3
          I can't agree with you more.
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            • DR_PHIL
              Confirmed User
              • Oct 2002
              • 4099
              #4
              so many programs competing out there..and they arent even smooth about it half the time

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                • SlickRick
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 2849
                  #5
                  Originally posted by CyberTraffic
                  I'm so goddamned tired of wasting money on sponsors who shave.

                  A lot of people say it's ok if they shave, because it "evens out".

                  Well, not cool with me, you give me one solid week of high conversions and then give me zero the next week, I don't forget. This is my money, my resources, my fucking time being spent on your stupid little fucking program and I will not waste it so you can lure hundreds of gallery submitters to your program with high payouts.

                  It's fucking bullshit and it pisses me the fuck off.

                  If you're a sponsor who shaves, go to hell, if you're not, beg a webmaster to give you a referral, cause I'm not going to trust you.

                  Thanks.

                  I will never shave from my partners, looking for a new one
                  check out www.pump-room.pays.com

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                    • EviLGuY
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 12745
                      #6
                      Yeah I hate shaving.. regardless of the bullshit rationalizations. Its about trust to me.

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                        • bufferover
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 25209
                          #7
                          Hmm put their names don't let other felow webmasters to be burned

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                            • Danny_C
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2002
                              • 2160
                              #8
                              There's no rationalization for shaving, or for sending traffic to a program that shaves.

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                                • Corleone
                                  C.R.E.A.M
                                  • Apr 2003
                                  • 15262
                                  #9
                                  try ccbill sponsors

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                                    • Manowar
                                      jellyfish  
                                      • Dec 2003
                                      • 71528
                                      #10
                                      will have "shaving" covered very soon, no more shaving. ever.

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                                        • mazafaka
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                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 148
                                          #11
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                                            • Doctor Dre
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Jan 2001
                                              • 51692
                                              #12
                                              If you can't afford to be shaved, find a solid CC bill sponsor that rebills well and use it . Only way right now
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                                                • CyberTraffic
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                  • 2187
                                                  #13
                                                  You guys can't be serious about ccbill.

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                                                    • Bruno
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                                                      • Jul 2001
                                                      • 1241
                                                      #14
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                                                        • hydro
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                                                          • Dec 2003
                                                          • 4216
                                                          #15
                                                          best thing to do is send traffic to your own sites, you really cant shave yourself and even if you do it wont matter

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                                                            • CyberTraffic
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Feb 2004
                                                              • 2187
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by hydro
                                                              best thing to do is send traffic to your own sites, you really cant shave yourself and even if you do it wont matter
                                                              hydro, could you icq me please?

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                                                                • blazin
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                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                  • 2781
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by TAMPA_TOKER
                                                                  Nicely said
                                                                  I don't endorse a god damn thing......

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                                                                    • snowpimp
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                                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                                      • 1099
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by EviLGuY
                                                                      Yeah I hate shaving.. regardless of the bullshit rationalizations. Its about trust to me.
                                                                      I shaved my goathe today after 10 years, feels very weird
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                                                                        • Zoe_Zoebaboe
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                                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                                          • 4463
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Yeah, we proudly use CCBill for our sites.

                                                                          The only thing shaved on our sites are our girls!


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                                                                            • Shonine
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                                                                              • May 2004
                                                                              • 201
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Sorry for the newby quetions but what exactly is shaving ?


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                                                                                • SoBeGirl Video
                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                                                  • 2493
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Shaving = skimming sales..

                                                                                  But let's face it. Sponsors that pay out big money for signups are shaving. We know how long these surfers recurr today. We know the average numbers. Do the math.. IT is impossible to pay out 35 , 40, 45 dollars and more on a singup and stay in biz.

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                                                                                    • jas1552
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • May 2002
                                                                                      • 1462
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      It wasn't long ago people were saying ccbill has a shave feature in their software and you can't trust any program that uses them. Now people are saying you can only trust sponsors who use ccbill. Is this sarcasm or has ccbill made shaving impossible with their software?

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                                                                                        • jimmyf
                                                                                          OU812
                                                                                          • Feb 2001
                                                                                          • 12651
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by SlickRick
                                                                                          I will never shave from my partners, looking for a new one
                                                                                          check out www.pump-room.pays.com
                                                                                          that's what all of' em say, I've heard that sooooooo many time

                                                                                          that it's as hell
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                                                                                            • Oh Sheila
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                                                                                              • Apr 2004
                                                                                              • 1404
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              I find it hard to believe that making sales one week and none the next is shaving.

                                                                                              Think about it, if a sponsor were shaving their #1 priority would be to hide any evidence of it, stealing ALL your sales for an entire week would be far too obvious.

                                                                                              If you were going to shave somebody, would you take ALL of their sales for a full week? No way, too obvious.
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                                                                                                • aaron
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                                                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                                                  • 4452
                                                                                                  #25
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                                                                                                    • jimmyf
                                                                                                      OU812
                                                                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                                                                      • 12651
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by mazafaka
                                                                                                      Serious Coin - the name you can trust.
                                                                                                      that's what all of' em say, I've heard that sooooooo many time

                                                                                                      that it's as hell
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                                                                                                        • RRRED
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                                                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                                                          • 6754
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by CyberTraffic
                                                                                                          I'm so goddamned tired of wasting money on sponsors who shave.

                                                                                                          A lot of people say it's ok if they shave, because it "evens out".

                                                                                                          Well, not cool with me, you give me one solid week of high conversions and then give me zero the next week, I don't forget. This is my money, my resources, my fucking time being spent on your stupid little fucking program and I will not waste it so you can lure hundreds of gallery submitters to your program with high payouts.

                                                                                                          It's fucking bullshit and it pisses me the fuck off.

                                                                                                          If you're a sponsor who shaves, go to hell, if you're not, beg a webmaster to give you a referral, cause I'm not going to trust you.

                                                                                                          Thanks.


                                                                                                          If you need a sponsor replacement and have boob related traffic, let me know. We don't shave anything other than shok's ass around here.

                                                                                                          I'm a firm believer in making a touch less money and being around for the long haul.

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                                                                                                            • stevecore
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                                                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                                                              • 6130
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by DR_PHIL
                                                                                                              so many programs competing out there..and they arent even smooth about it half the time
                                                                                                              talk about smooth...didn't you get caught tampering with sigmonkey?

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                                                                                                                • jimmyf
                                                                                                                  OU812
                                                                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                  • 12651
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by jas1552
                                                                                                                  It wasn't long ago people were saying ccbill has a shave feature in their software and you can't trust any program that uses them. Now people are saying you can only trust sponsors who use ccbill. Is this sarcasm or has ccbill made shaving impossible with their software?
                                                                                                                  You can go to tools in ccbill and see if the sponsor has shave turned on..

                                                                                                                  the funny thing is they trun this feature on when most of the sponsors where at a big show, some of the ones that had it on got caught...
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                                                                                                                    • detoxed
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                                                                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                      • 17798
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      So many people complain of shaving and never look into the real problem, their traffic.

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                                                                                                                        • StRoGE
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                                                                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                                                                          • 1713
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by jimmyf
                                                                                                                          that's what all of' em say, I've heard that sooooooo many time

                                                                                                                          that it's as hell
                                                                                                                          Slick Rick I would trust. The other guy....I dunno.
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                                                                                                                            • jimmyf
                                                                                                                              OU812
                                                                                                                              • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                              • 12651
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Oh Sheila
                                                                                                                              I find it hard to believe that making sales one week and none the next is shaving.

                                                                                                                              Think about it, if a sponsor were shaving their #1 priority would be to hide any evidence of it, stealing ALL your sales for an entire week would be far too obvious.

                                                                                                                              If you were going to shave somebody, would you take ALL of their sales for a full week? No way, too obvious.
                                                                                                                              do you have any ideal how stupid some people are? just because they own some pay sites does not mean they have a clue.

                                                                                                                              They might the greatest at marketing and or web design, but any common sense is another thing. because thats what it is common sense. maybe they had the shave turn on Monday, Tues,Wed.
                                                                                                                              and those were the only days you got any sign ups. Turned it off for rest of the week and you really didn't get any.
                                                                                                                              Last edited by jimmyf; 05-20-2004, 03:29 PM.
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                                                                                                                                • jimmyf
                                                                                                                                  OU812
                                                                                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                  • 12651
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by aaron
                                                                                                                                  sig- easy extra $ great for 404
                                                                                                                                  what the hell is a ticket?

                                                                                                                                  is it money as in CASH, if not I'm not interested
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                                                                                                                                    • jimmyf
                                                                                                                                      OU812
                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                      • 12651
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by detoxed
                                                                                                                                      So many people complain of shaving and never look into the real problem, their traffic.
                                                                                                                                      yes you are right it is traffic.

                                                                                                                                      I use 2 get (for years) on average 1/125
                                                                                                                                      now it more like 1/3000 for all but a very few sponsors.

                                                                                                                                      I don't send a sponsor 1,000's of hit never have and I've done just fine until about the last 1 to 1 1/2 years ago

                                                                                                                                      Like I said still do 1/125 with a very few. and no I'm not telling other than the one in my sig.

                                                                                                                                      what a lot of sponsors don't understand, there are some webmaster that do know there traffic.
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                                                                                                                                        • bdld
                                                                                                                                          $100,000
                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                          • 11452
                                                                                                                                          #35

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                                                                                                                                            • SlickRick
                                                                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                              • 2849
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by StRoGE
                                                                                                                                              Slick Rick I would trust. The other guy....I dunno.
                                                                                                                                              Thanks StRoGE

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                                                                                                                                                • tranza
                                                                                                                                                  ICQ: 197-556-237
                                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                  • 57559
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Name them....
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                                                                                                                                                    • TheMob?
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                                                                                                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                      • 8584
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Oh Sheila
                                                                                                                                                      I find it hard to believe that making sales one week and none the next is shaving.

                                                                                                                                                      Think about it, if a sponsor were shaving their #1 priority would be to hide any evidence of it, stealing ALL your sales for an entire week would be far too obvious.

                                                                                                                                                      If you were going to shave somebody, would you take ALL of their sales for a full week? No way, too obvious.
                                                                                                                                                      that's a reason to do it

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                                                                                                                                                        • Donny
                                                                                                                                                          As you wish...
                                                                                                                                                          • May 2002
                                                                                                                                                          • 13754
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Zoe_Zoebaboe
                                                                                                                                                          Yeah, we proudly use CCBill for our sites.

                                                                                                                                                          The only thing shaved on our sites are our girls!


                                                                                                                                                          See Sig

                                                                                                                                                          I use CCBill too, and my girls are shaved or bushy, depending on the day.

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                                                                                                                                                            • Donny
                                                                                                                                                              As you wish...
                                                                                                                                                              • May 2002
                                                                                                                                                              • 13754
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Shonine
                                                                                                                                                              Sorry for the newby quetions but what exactly is shaving ?
                                                                                                                                                              Removing hair using a razor.

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                                                                                                                                                                • tony299
                                                                                                                                                                  lurker
                                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                                                                  • 57021
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by SoBeGirl Video
                                                                                                                                                                  Shaving = skimming sales..

                                                                                                                                                                  But let's face it. Sponsors that pay out big money for signups are shaving. We know how long these surfers recurr today. We know the average numbers. Do the math.. IT is impossible to pay out 35 , 40, 45 dollars and more on a singup and stay in biz.
                                                                                                                                                                  Amen They want the biggest percentage of the sale for life, free hosting, big parties, dinners, limo rides and prizes. Then they are surprised about shaving.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • Speedy26
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2001
                                                                                                                                                                      • 950
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by jimmyf
                                                                                                                                                                      You can go to tools in ccbill and see if the sponsor has shave turned on..

                                                                                                                                                                      the funny thing is they trun this feature on when most of the sponsors where at a big show, some of the ones that had it on got caught...

                                                                                                                                                                      yea, but you still cant see if they have your cookie set to expire in 6 hrs or 6 months....
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                                                                                                                                                                        • CyberTraffic
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                                                                          • 2187
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by tony404
                                                                                                                                                                          Amen They want the biggest percentage of the sale for life, free hosting, big parties, dinners, limo rides and prizes. Then they are surprised about shaving.
                                                                                                                                                                          Fuck that shit, all I want is what I earn. Period.

                                                                                                                                                                          All of that other shit does'nt matter to me, and even if it did, it still does'nt put food on my plate.

                                                                                                                                                                          Just cause a handful of spoiled celebrity wannabe's want the luxury treatment at some brown-nosing fest does'nt mean anyone needs to accomodate them.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • Worldnet
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                                              • 996
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              I'va had it with them myself. Throw you a bone, then nothing. I'm changing all mine over to pay sites.

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                                                                                                                                                                                • RRRED
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 6754
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • HS-Trixxxia
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Mar 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 2946
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Speedy26
                                                                                                                                                                                      yea, but you still cant see if they have your cookie set to expire in 6 hrs or 6 months....
                                                                                                                                                                                      Cool you mentioned that! That was one of the first things I thought of putting on the affiliate page when I was preparing it yesterday! I know that I'd like to know what the sponsors I was using before had it set on. The other thing is the processing fee. I never noticed it before (I just deposit the cheques :-) ) then when looking in the CCBill panel, saw that option - now, as an affiliate, why the fuck should I pay your operating costs if you are saying that you pay 50-60% but in reality you charge me another 5-8% of my dollar value to pay for your operating costs?

                                                                                                                                                                                      Anyhow, I made sure webmasters would be more aware of the options a site owner has by stating what I am & can give them.
                                                                                                                                                                                      As for the cookies - I set that to the maximum allowable, 255 days.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • detoxed
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 17798
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by jimmyf
                                                                                                                                                                                              yes you are right it is traffic.

                                                                                                                                                                                              I use 2 get (for years) on average 1/125
                                                                                                                                                                                              now it more like 1/3000 for all but a very few sponsors.

                                                                                                                                                                                              I don't send a sponsor 1,000's of hit never have and I've done just fine until about the last 1 to 1 1/2 years ago

                                                                                                                                                                                              Like I said still do 1/125 with a very few. and no I'm not telling other than the one in my sig.

                                                                                                                                                                                              what a lot of sponsors don't understand, there are some webmaster that do know there traffic.
                                                                                                                                                                                              It is impossible for you to look at a site and say "My traffic will convert 1:300 with this site"

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • detoxed
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jan 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 17798
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by SoBeGirl Video

                                                                                                                                                                                                  But let's face it. Sponsors that pay out big money for signups are shaving. We know how long these surfers recurr today. We know the average numbers. Do the math.. IT is impossible to pay out 35 , 40, 45 dollars and more on a singup and stay in biz.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  If you arent smart enough to figure out how someone can pay $40 a sale then you really shouldnt comment on it. I'm not saying that people paying $40 a sale dont shave, but I'm saying it would easily be done on a normal porn site without shaving.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • suesheboy
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 5211
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      This is why I promote hard goods like toys.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      I have had consistant conversions for years with LIFETIME commissions. I use my own domains to stear the traffic so bookmarks are on my URL.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      I myself are fed up with cheaters in the biz. It gets me sick as ANY shaving should not be tolerated.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      For example:

                                                                                                                                                                                                      "can I fuck your wife? You won't notice as while I am fucking her she will give you the same amout of sex as before I was fucking her."

                                                                                                                                                                                                      ...would you accept this? Then why accept it in biz?
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