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cherrylula · 05-20-2004, 07:30 PM

100 Lightpeed parties!

garett · 05-20-2004, 07:43 PM

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Originally posted by crockett
What's wrong with leaving the pay scales where they are? I'll tell you what I've noticed.. is the lack of new sites and updates for hosted galleries. You guys started that new gallery program where people send in the galleries.. But it's the same content I've already seen everywhere.

I can't build and submit galleries for your sites because everyone has the same content on their sites already. I can't buy content and use it to sell your sites because all the sites are single girl for the most part, so bought content is useless. If you want to keep webmaster loyalty give me something I can promote with.

You guys always had good converting sites but it's hard to build steady traffic to them with nothing new to promote. just my opinion

This is pretty much my exact same sentiment.

I have two main issues with Lightspeed .. they're nothing that I would complain openly about, but I feel that they're relevant to this dicussion since Steve is openly asking for ideas, advice and critisisism.

1. Content. I have asked my affiliate manager at LS about purchasing semi-exclusive LS content, with the the rights to use it only for promoting LS sites of course.. just so that I'm on some kind of playing ground when it comes to getting my galleries listed.. and it seems you guys are not open to this.

We obviously can't purchase general teen content to promote Jordan Capri .. we need Jordan Capri content.. but your current system makes it very hard.

The FTP system makes it difficult to determine what content is best to grab and build galleries around. We end up wasting our 400 credits just finding content that's not already been seen a million times.

I say get rid of the FTP system and offer a way for webmasters who are serious about sending traffic a way to get some unseen content.

2. This is moot .. but if you're talking about loyalty .. I have a beef with a 60% revshare program that takes a 10% processing fee. It just seems a little deceptive to me. You're trying to stand out by saying "We pay more!" yet you're just another 50/50 revshare.

3. Multiple tour pages. More sites. LS World, LS 18 etc. are great sites that have converted well for me .. but it's the new single girls that convert the best. Little Troublemaker converted great when she was first launched .. but after building and submitting 30 some galleries and throwing a bunch of hosted galleries up on my TGPs etc. I just can't send much more traffic to the site. New sites will get us sending more traffic.

4. Find ways to appeal to foreign traffic. 10% of my traffic is Chinese. That's not my fault and there's nothing I do about it .. so try to give me something to do with it.

5. To appeal to the smaller guys, like me!, offer corny little prises. Like 5 sign-ups in one week will get an autographed hardcopy photo of Jordan Capri or Tawnee Stone mailed with your next check. You can give out t-shirts, hats, dvds etc. We love free stuff even if it's cheap free stuff! lol

6. Get your bloody rewards program up already! lol

7. Be more open and accepting to your affiliates when it comes to communication. I get the feeling from you guys, when I e-mail or ICQ you, that it's like going through a huge corporation like Microsoft. It takes a while to get a reply and when it finally comes it seems automated and impersonal. I know you must get flooded with e-mail, Steve, but hire more people to assist your affiliates. Provide someone to help out with content, hosted galleries etc.

The most important thing for me to is to get better content to promote you with .. and to get easier access to it. And I'm even willing to pay for it. Some of my sponsors have given me free members access to grab content .. I never ask for that and will never ask for that.. but when they offer it goes a huge way towards getting traffic from me. Those are the sponsors I really push hard to return the favour.

biglou · 05-20-2004, 07:54 PM

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Originally posted by Lightspeed

If you only have 10 sales, you get paid for up to 10 rebills. If you have no sales, you get no rebills.

Steve,

I love you baby, but it sounds like you have been taking lessons from the cocksuckers at Adult Check. The only difference under this system is that you are telling the webmasters that you are keeping the rebills before you appropriate them. I'm not down with this at all.

BradM · 05-20-2004, 07:55 PM

Putting some thought into WM loyalty is good... but not a fan of this system.

I mean make it and give it a shot but leave the 50/50.

Fletch XXX · 05-21-2004, 10:05 AM

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Originally posted by DrinkingHard

I like the loyalty part.

you let parties blind you.

this is bullshit.

Fletch XXX · 05-21-2004, 10:14 AM

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Originally posted by Lightspeed
So what I'm hearing is that new sites with good content that convert and retain, honest payouts, and fair treatment of the webmasters is the way to earn webmaster loyalty?

When you guys are all at the next convention, wondering why there's no open bar and no tits in your face, you can reread this thread.

I just saved 300k! Thanks!

Steve Lightspeed

the problem is you think some of us give a fuck about parties?

i know i dont.

ill never attend a lightspeed party, all i care about is the sites, ratios, and checks.

you gonna punish all your webmasters because you like to rent treampolines and throw parties?

i like your set up, please dont fuck us.

Fletch XXX · 05-21-2004, 10:24 AM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream

my thoughts, you don't need to bribe anyone to use your stuff steve, they use it cause it's quality work - keep the program growing, and keep working hard and recruiting. I'm not saying stop supporting the industry, but do it for the right reasons. I dont' put the kind of money you do into industry events, but i throw a few pennies in here and there - I do it as a thank you for what i already got - not what i'm going to get.

corvette · 05-21-2004, 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
i like your set up, please dont fuck us.

I don?t think that Steve is going to try to do that. It appears that he was testing the waters for this idea.

I think that the main point of this was exchanging the potential for not getting paid out on all of your rebills if you quit sending traffic, for a higher payout on the initial signup and the recurring.

With the full price membership of the LS sites that I had seen at $39.95, the 80% payout is $32, which is comparable to some of the PPS programs?and you would get the same $32 payout on the rebills...

Considering that many members normally cancel during the first month, the overall payout might be better?this appears to be a hybrid of PPS/revenue sharing model.

I don?t think that Steve was just planning to nix the rebills, don?t forget that the payout is larger on the front end

these are all my personal thoughts

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cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	100 Lightpeed parties!

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BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Putting some thought into WM loyalty is good... but not a fan of this system. I mean make it and give it a shot but leave the 50/50.