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Old 05-19-2004, 01:18 PM   #1
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should bush release oil from the strategic reserves?

now i'm not a bush fan and i don't like kerry either but i see these democrats latching onto the oil issue right now. yeah oil is going up and gas prices are fucking going up, i guess i don't mind it too much if it's for our own good.

however i personally think regardless of oil or gas pricing i think releasing and using our reserves is a bad idea that could put us in an even more compromising position because of those bitches in the middle east. don't you think if we lowered our reserves they could turn it on us and fuck us by pulling their supplies back even more?

what do you think should be done. i say we let the oil prices continue to go up and push alternative tech and put more oil into our reserves than we already are.
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Old 05-19-2004, 01:21 PM   #2
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"Should bush release oil from the strategic reserves?"

- Yes, if it lowers prices. We can fill em up when prices are low again.
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Old 05-19-2004, 01:22 PM   #3
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We add 100,000 barrels a day to it. Don't think it would be too big of a problem releasing some of it. Clinton did it and all was well.
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Old 05-19-2004, 01:23 PM   #4
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Probably not a great idea really.. cant he just invade Saudi Arabia or something?
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Old 05-19-2004, 01:25 PM   #5
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We add 100,000 barrels a day to it. Don't think it would be too big of a problem releasing some of it. Clinton did it and all was well.
when he did it there wasn't an intifada going on and two wars in the middle east. if we do it now we might get some $1.50 gas for a while but we'll end up fucked in the ass by opec.
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Old 05-19-2004, 01:26 PM   #6
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The strategic reserve is supposed to be for emergencies only. I say drill ANWR and use it as a tactical reserve to control prices.
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Old 05-19-2004, 01:26 PM   #7
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Probably not a great idea really.. cant he just invade Saudi Arabia or something?
i heard they've WMDs and they're hiding OSAMA..
time to liberate them
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Old 05-19-2004, 01:26 PM   #8
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i dont think they should be released til gas is 5 bucks a gallon or til there's a real shortage.
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Old 05-19-2004, 01:34 PM   #9
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release it!!!
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Old 05-19-2004, 01:36 PM   #10
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Its all been a long thought out ploy.

Bush has been looking for a reason the public would support drilling up in Alaska.
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Old 05-19-2004, 01:49 PM   #11
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Old 05-19-2004, 02:02 PM   #12
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dont worry boys im sure bush the butcher didnt just fuck iraq up for nothing - you will get your cheap oil soon enuf
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Old 05-19-2004, 02:10 PM   #13
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Hell no they shouldn't release it. There is no oil shortage its all a ploy by the oil company's to make a buck off the war.
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Old 05-19-2004, 02:13 PM   #14
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"Should bush release oil from the strategic reserves?"

- Yes, if it lowers prices. We can fill em up when prices are low again.
No prices wont go down that much maybe a few cents and thats it. THese prices will stay like this from now on. Any of you ever hear of OIL PEAK? We need to find other ways to fuel our cars so we are not depenent on oil. Oil prices will get worst in a few years.
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Old 05-19-2004, 02:15 PM   #15
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Yes, he should. And no he won't. Why? Because he is an oil man, and he and his oil buddies are making a killing!!! Literally.
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Old 05-19-2004, 02:32 PM   #16
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He should stick a pipe down Rush Limbaugh's throat and one up his ass.

The energy from all that hot air could supply the country's energy needs with an endless supply.
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Old 05-19-2004, 02:35 PM   #17
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Hell no they shouldn't release it. There is no oil shortage its all a ploy by the oil company's to make a buck off the war.
No it's not. It's because of increased demand and lower supply.
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Old 05-19-2004, 02:40 PM   #18
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when he did it there wasn't an intifada going on and two wars in the middle east. if we do it now we might get some $1.50 gas for a while but we'll end up fucked in the ass by opec.
Shows thatr Clinton was a better president....
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Old 05-19-2004, 02:44 PM   #19
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We add 100,000 barrels a day to it. Don't think it would be too big of a problem releasing some of it. Clinton did it and all was well.
And Kerry was against it when Clinton did it, now he is for it when a republican is in office. Flippity / Flop.
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Old 05-19-2004, 02:46 PM   #20
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And Kerry was against it when Clinton did it, now he is for it when a republican is in office. Flippity / Flop.
man i hate bush but kerry is a fucktard too that's for damn sure
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Old 05-19-2004, 02:46 PM   #21
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Its all been a long thought out ploy.

Bush has been looking for a reason the public would support drilling up in Alaska.
The funny thing is the people in Alaska support oil drilling in Alaska. Its the tree huggers that are keeping us from drilling there.
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Old 05-19-2004, 02:48 PM   #22
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We add 100,000 barrels a day to it. Don't think it would be too big of a problem releasing some of it. Clinton did it and all was well.
Exactly what I was just going to say.
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Old 05-19-2004, 02:50 PM   #23
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The funny thing is the people in Alaska support oil drilling in Alaska. Its the tree huggers that are keeping us from drilling there.
i'm no tree hugger but i'm smart enough to know that the whole drilling is alaska thing is bullshit and we might see some minimal amount of oil in 10 fucking years big deal. it's all about the oil companies wanting more money.

why didn't they expand the drilling off the florida coast, or was it because king george made his brother a deal not to do that. that could have seen results in less than 2 years.

the bottom line is coming up with new places to drill in america is not a solution to the oil problems we have and never will be, not even a temporary solution.
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i'm no tree hugger but i'm smart enough to know that the whole drilling is alaska thing is bullshit and we might see some minimal amount of oil in 10 fucking years big deal. it's all about the oil companies wanting more money.

why didn't they expand the drilling off the florida coast, or was it because king george made his brother a deal not to do that. that could have seen results in less than 2 years.

the bottom line is coming up with new places to drill in america is not a solution to the oil problems we have and never will be, not even a temporary solution.
Actually according to the things I have read (now I dont believe everything I read but this seemed pretty reputable) is that the oil in Alaska could more than support the US oil consumption for years. I could find the exact information from the book I was reading if it's really that important, but I want to say it was for more years than you or I will be on this earth.

I think we need to find alternative fuels but I also think we need to be much more self sufficient and if we can leverage our own resources then we are much better off. Everyone gets pissed off at Bush as if this is all his fault, they are all saying "FUCK BUSH" as they drive around in their 50k Cadillac Escalades paying $2+ per gallon so they can look cool, its their fault they bought the SUV and gas went up. Oil companies are just going off the supply and demand principle. They may be doing it to make money but there are things people can do to reduce oil consumption as well.
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Old 05-19-2004, 03:02 PM   #25
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No it's not. It's because of increased demand and lower supply.
There is not a shortage of oil...there is a shortage of refinaries in the US. US oil companies will not build them and their excuse is that enviromental regs make the investment to return to long of a period and there is to small of a profit at previous prices. Saudi Arabia has offered to build some refinaries in the US...I do not know if it was a serious offer...but seriously doubt...even if it was the US would allow it.
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Old 05-19-2004, 03:04 PM   #26
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Demand is outstripping supply - and a chunk of that demand is the US (normal consumer/business usage), plus also the US strategic reserve.

They're buying for a reason - to get reserve levels up.
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We add 100,000 barrels a day to it. Don't think it would be too big of a problem releasing some of it. Clinton did it and all was well.
well the thing that most people don't realize and Bush is playing politics on this. They aren't talking about using the oil reserves. They were talking about diverting some of that 100,000 barrels a day that we add to the reserve.

Bush is trying to make it sound like we would be pulling out oil reserves that is already there.
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Actually according to the things I have read (now I dont believe everything I read but this seemed pretty reputable) is that the oil in Alaska could more than support the US oil consumption for years. I could find the exact information from the book I was reading if it's really that important, but I want to say it was for more years than you or I will be on this earth.

I think we need to find alternative fuels but I also think we need to be much more self sufficient and if we can leverage our own resources then we are much better off. Everyone gets pissed off at Bush as if this is all his fault, they are all saying "FUCK BUSH" as they drive around in their 50k Cadillac Escalades paying $2+ per gallon so they can look cool, its their fault they bought the SUV and gas went up. Oil companies are just going off the supply and demand principle. They may be doing it to make money but there are things people can do to reduce oil consumption as well.
I have heard...on the low end...six months...and on the high end five years. The answer undoubtedly lies some where in between and whatever the amount...it would not be available for 10 or more years...so demand will have increased by then and whatever the amount...will supply US needs for a shorter period of time. I do not approve of drilling in Alaska.
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Why not..these prices are crazy!
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We should build up strategic reserves and no they should not be released. There are two or three more probable wars on the horizon.
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Nope it would be a stupid move. The oil is for national security.

Sink a couple of oil tankers and there would be a big mess and oil flow from the middle east might stop for awhile.

Bush has a couple of good points. this is one of them. I'll get back to ya when I think of more. Oh. you usually know where he stands, a man of conviction.
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