this thread must be so funny for the big spammers out there..

I want to post something so bad but i dont want to get my friends accout termed. I got to bite my tounge on this one:Oh crap

As a sponsor I can tell you we do care because those little spam cops try and take everyone down. I won't have one idiot spammer get our IP's and domains blocked. Just a bad risk vs. reward ratio.

Warden:
Maybe you are the only one do care spam:)

Here the email from sponsor:

"Thank you for notifying us. We do not mail or send pop-ups as it is
strictly against our terms and policies. We do not allow this type of
advertising and do everything in our power to keep our sites beyond the
reach of children.

However, this is not spam. This is an update email notifying you that the
tours have been updated and the only way to receive this email is by
inputting an email at the bottom of the tour."

I think maybe it is my fault. :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh

Who's harvesting?
harvested emails aren't effective
I'm sure there are spammers out there with harvesters, but most bulkmailers have opt-in lists and the remove lists are much more valuable than the mail lists.

Um, this industry is begging for regulation because it's the porn industry. They aren't going after the mortgage industries and I get TONS more spam from mortgage companies than I do porn spam. I'd bet less than 5% of my spam is porn spam. These are just the spams people remember.

Short term dollars? Um, you do realize most every early program was built on spam several year ago and most are still going strong. Hardly short term.

OK, let's say for giggles you are a sponsor program, would you take 100 signups per day from a mailer who might cause you a little heat but won't be begging to have thier hand held, won't cry about shaving after a bad run, won't bitch about payouts, won't beg for free content and hosting and will send members that retain longer or 5 per day from someone submitting to major TGPs?

This is why most programs who do allow mail traffic also watch the traffic. If some guy is just blind spamming, his heat with be high and he'll just bring trouble, but a known bulkmailer who has working remove links, emails that opted in somewhere, etc. is something most programs have or want.

Do all mailers follow the "rules"? Of course not.

Also, if you're not in this business for the money, wy be in it? To look at naked chicks all day? Everyone has their own moral line in the sand. Some people just have longer, deeper dug lines ;-)

LOL If you are asking that question ... hrmm ...

1st : Spam isn't really illegal if you follow the rules
2nd : Even if you don't, you will most likely get away with it
3rd : Even if you use the remove list, the list you bought was bought by 10 other guys that will spam the same person that got removed from yours .
4th :

Sponsor loves money . Spam = Money

hahahaha
I wonder how many other people who cry about spam are the same way? ;-)
my wife bitches about spam, yet she fills out all these different forms and enters contests, newsletter opt-ins, etc. not realizing that maybe 50% of those spams are indeed companies she's opted into and simply forgotten about.

Child Porn = Money
Beastiality = Money
Incest, Rape, Torture = Money




----> do you support them too, can money be always a justification for something ? :question

= illegal

remove link?
some email have pop-up hell in remove link.
Some just want more info from you.

from opt-in lists?
why no one use real name and real email?
And change the name and email erverytime.

:ak47:

regular spam is also illegal

spam will always be part of the internet, no matter what type of spam protection systems come up people will still spam and people will still buy things through spam. All you can do is not put your email address in [email protected] format, at least use user at domain dot com

Dude, we don't allow spamming and if you find one of my affiliates spamming I WANT TO KNOW ABOUT IT ASAP:feels-hot

I can assure you the SexPicturesPass does care if you spam or not, and you had better be CanSpam Compliant or you will not be getting paid.

By being CanSpam Compliant I am not talking about just using certain designated words in the subject, but it has to be double opt in, with a time, date, IP stamp, with opt out ability, and we had better be notified immediately if ANYONE opts off your list, whether they were spammed with our program or someone elses.

We are not going to be fined because of the spammer's negligence.

Spammers don't seem to realize the liabilities we are subject to by their actions, or failure to comply.

How do we know you are spamming if no one complains?

Exactly. And even though Tampa specifically mentioned getting WEGCash spam and I gave my email address so he could forward me the links, I've heard nothing. :(

Folks, if you see ICQ, AIM, board, etc. spamming SEND THE INFO TO THE SPONSORS!!!

For those wanting to know, [email protected]

Amanda WILL cut those suckers off at the knees :thumbsup

We (SRevenue) don't until you are using the legal email lists!

money is money :)

good point

Wow, this thread has turned into a good discussion on the subject. A rare thing indeed. :D

The gist seems to be. programs dont want amateur spammers, but the ones that know their shit are fine by them. :Graucho

true... sad but true... :(

well better clue them in, this can spam has been coming down the pike for sometime.

I'm sure we will reading about some pay site owners on this board that the fed's make an example of.

here is a example.

I did *** NOT *** opt-in to this and fuck Dollarmachine

I got this about 5 min.'s ago .


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Trust me, if I find a spammer I make them prove that they are compliant or they don't get paid. YOu will notice that no one has complained about not getting paid, so I guess they were not compliant and they just cut their losses and went with another sponsor.

You will also notice that everytime someone posts that they have an email list for sale the first thing I ask is it it is Ca Spam compliant. We at SexPicturesPass.com have been on top of this compliancy thing from the gate.

I am kind of surprised that it is just now becoming a popular topic of discussion on the boards. It has been in effect for 5 months.

The fact of the matter is that there is a legal way of email spamming. If you do not know how to do it, don't. No ifs, ands, or buts.

why sad? if you have a double otp in, with a time, date, IP stamp and a remove link, spam away. you are within your rights, because the surfer asked to be spammed, and least until they hit that remeove link

It has been in effect for 5 months.

that's what I mean some pay sites owners have not been on top of it and are really going 2 get screwed big time, heck just going 2 court will bust some of them much less the fines.

and the Fed's are like a fucking Pit Bull when it comes 2 getting there money, and believe me it's not YOUR money any longer.

if you make enough sales, they dont care.
if you dont, your account gets removed.

hey, less competition for me I guess :)

at $15,000 a pop, you can not make enough sales to satisfy me

I don't see how if they are getting compliant's. do you know how many joins you would have 2 send them to cover just 1 compliant that went 2 a fine. I think the fine is like 10 or 15K

:thumbsup good for you :thumbsup

maybe not you, but others ive seen dont seem to mind. i forward emails all the time and yet more and more come in with the same ref code. either the spammers are idiots and keep running without seeing their account is closed, or the company doesnt care. i should of posted more specific. SOME BIG companys dont care, some do.

maybe you should start a theard

Sponsors that allow spamming and every spam you get post it:Graucho I'm some other people would contribute might be a pretty long thread.

That is if Lensman would allow it ?

if you do add my post above on Dollarmachine

Fuckin A finally someone made my point b4 i got here.

I to am a sponsor and We actually lost all of shit at our initial launch due to a spamming affil, we were very lucky that our hosts have known us for over 6 years and knew exactly where we stood on spam, and pulled a few strings and got us back up in under 2 hours,

To the people that think sponsors don't care about spam, your folling yourself big time, True their may be a few fucks out there who condone it to line their pockets even more, but in the end if someone complains they CAN loose their ip's Domain names and hosts. and in most cases would have to start their companies ALL OVER AGAIN under new names.

We do NOT tolerate spammers AT ALL! if your caught spamming kiss your account goodbye.

I also wanna touch on something else...

Originally posted by DeanCapture
Of course. If your a spammer bringing in some big bucks -
the sponsor will protect you. Not only that, they'll send you nice
toys to play with, treat you like a king at the shows, answer
your phone calls, chat with you on ICQ etc..etc. But if you are a
struggling webmaster trying to obey their TOS and do things in
a professional and "legal" way, but not having the success
that a spammer would have - they don't have the time of day
for you.

Now, wouldn't it be nice to find a sponsor program that actually
cares about the hardworking affiliate who is trying hard to do
the right thing by working hard and obeying all the rules? A
sponsor who actually celebrates and promotes good business
ethics and practices? Yes - they all say that they are like this,
but in reality most are not.


Again somethin gwe totally agree with, Each one of our affils are treated the same #1 and i emplore EVERY sponsor out there to start looking into at LEAST trying this, EVERY AFFIL YOU HAVE has the potential to be a big earner for you but they need help, support and tips and tricks. If your not ready to do that then maybe you should make your program exclusive so you don't have ot worry about being human beings.

I have seen a disturbing trend over the last 6 years, look around other boards and se what affils are crying out for. SUPPORT, HELP, TIPS. These ppl WANT TO make money. Ignoring them won't help either party.

Stopping now before i end up with a fucking novel.

-Loki-

Spelling errors left in for your amusement

You want affiliates to notify you when someone opts out of the lists?
I do not follow you here.

Wow some interesting post here. Some i agree with some i dont. I was refering to the idiots spamming in the chat rooms and thru instant messenger:)

*Bump*