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05-18-2004, 01:43 PM

For those running campaigns on both adwords and overture, how does it perform? Worth the time?

I have success on adwords, and thinking of trying out overture for a change. The 10 cent per click minimum should not be a big issue, if the traffic performs similarly to adwords.

WiredGuy · 05-18-2004, 01:46 PM

The traffic from Overture is not as qualified in my opinion. A lot of their listings come from expired domains displaying search results. For example: http://www.wiredsex.com/ is one such domain which is fed by Overture. It's still worth your time, but the ROI is nowhere close to that of Adwords.

WG

05-18-2004, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
The traffic from Overture is not as qualified in my opinion. A lot of their listings come from expired domains displaying search results. For example: http://www.wiredsex.com/ is one such domain which is fed by Overture. It's still worth your time, but the ROI is nowhere close to that of Adwords.

WG

Very interesting, thanks for the input.

johnbosh · 05-18-2004, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
The traffic from Overture is not as qualified in my opinion. A lot of their listings come from expired domains displaying search results. For example: http://www.wiredsex.com/ is one such domain which is fed by Overture. It's still worth your time, but the ROI is nowhere close to that of Adwords.

WG

thats a really buig help

EviLGuY · 05-18-2004, 02:05 PM

Yeah I dont do nearly as well on Overture or the other PPC engines as I do on Google.

Lot of them are selling clicks that dont even come from searches, just a bunch of keywords on a page shown to people.

Hurts the quality I think.

WiredGuy · 05-18-2004, 02:10 PM

I also forgot to mention, Overture is a pain to get any keywords listed/approved. But once you do get it approved, its pretty easy sailing from there.

WG

Syl · 05-18-2004, 02:13 PM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy
I also forgot to mention, Overture is a pain to get any keywords listed/approved. But once you do get it approved, its pretty easy sailing from there.

WG

Agreed. Their editorial process is a pain in the ass and is very inconsistent. But they are doing very well for me.

TexasGuy · 05-18-2004, 02:18 PM

I prefer Google.

VideoJ · 05-18-2004, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
The traffic from Overture is not as qualified in my opinion. A lot of their listings come from expired domains displaying search results. For example: http://www.wiredsex.com/ is one such domain which is fed by Overture. It's still worth your time, but the ROI is nowhere close to that of Adwords.

WG

No, this domain is fed by findwhat. The owner is out of Hong Kong and owns a huge number of domains (something like 50,000). Read an article about him some time ago, his checks from FindWhat are huge.

Overture gets most of their traffic from agreements with other SEs and Portals. Yahoo, of course, but also CNN, altavista and a bunch more. That's why they push the top three spots so hard, those three go on their partners pages.

05-18-2004, 03:41 PM

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Originally posted by VideoJ
No, this domain is fed by findwhat. The owner is out of Hong Kong and owns a huge number of domains (something like 50,000). Read an article about him some time ago, his checks from FindWhat are huge.

Overture gets most of their traffic from agreements with other SEs and Portals. Yahoo, of course, but also CNN, altavista and a bunch more. That's why they push the top three spots so hard, those three go on their partners pages.

I see...

JamesK · 05-18-2004, 03:44 PM

I'm still testing Overture & it's pretty good. You just gotta know what you're doing.

I personally think Google has better traffic.

PrivateIvy · 05-18-2004, 03:44 PM

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GeXus · 05-18-2004, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VideoJ
No, this domain is fed by findwhat. The owner is out of Hong Kong and owns a huge number of domains (something like 50,000). Read an article about him some time ago, his checks from FindWhat are huge.

Overture gets most of their traffic from agreements with other SEs and Portals. Yahoo, of course, but also CNN, altavista and a bunch more. That's why they push the top three spots so hard, those three go on their partners pages.

No accually its fed from Overture, Findwhat you right click properties (to see the true url) will say have findhwat.com in it, and this site does not

the below is overture

http://www.wiredsex.com/c?x=02u3hs9y...+en hancement

bdld · 05-18-2004, 03:48 PM

very easy to lose a crapload of money there if you dont know what youre doing.

Kappy · 05-18-2004, 04:22 PM

From the 6 PPC engines I've tested so far overture has by far the worst traffic, and I really mean by far.
Adwords is top.

WiredGuy · 05-18-2004, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VideoJ
No, this domain is fed by findwhat. The owner is out of Hong Kong and owns a huge number of domains (something like 50,000). Read an article about him some time ago, his checks from FindWhat are huge.

Just did a couple queries and they were all my listings from Overture. Perhaps he has a script to figure out which engines will yield the most per click and he uses those but for the terms I just searched on, all overture fed.

WG

possescooter · 05-18-2004, 06:10 PM

I haven't personally used overture with the adult market, but for other markets (online ticket sales) is has converted FAR better than adwords in my personal experience.. I actually toured their facility one time, very impressive...

Matiz · 05-18-2004, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
The traffic from Overture is not as qualified in my opinion. A lot of their listings come from expired domains displaying search results. For example: http://www.wiredsex.com/ is one such domain which is fed by Overture. It's still worth your time, but the ROI is nowhere close to that of Adwords.

WG

Overture traffic from expired domains should be good as they don't allow direct listings. So, you pay only for the second click. In contrast to that Google allows direct listings.

Steen2 · 05-18-2004, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VideoJ
No, this domain is fed by findwhat. The owner is out of Hong Kong and owns a huge number of domains (something like 50,000). Read an article about him some time ago, his checks from FindWhat are huge.

Overture gets most of their traffic from agreements with other SEs and Portals. Yahoo, of course, but also CNN, altavista and a bunch more. That's why they push the top three spots so hard, those three go on their partners pages.

Nope, Yun (UltSearch) dropped FindWhat two or three months ago now. Maybe more. They now have a partnership with Overture.

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GeXuS PeRvErSe · 06-19-2004, 06:55 AM

I found Overture to be too picky... I wasnt able to get me Adult DVD site published even though I coughed up over $200 which I am still waiting for a refund.

they would not publish because I included golden shower, Scat, and zoo movies...less than 10% of my overall stock.... I retail EURO-HARDCORE.

Yet there are site that have child porn, rape and worse that get online... I dont understand how they get a place with such vile stuff..

I don't know how to get listed on google? Thought Overture was my answer... I thought wrong.

THINK CAREFULLY IF YOU ARE TRYING FOR ADULT SITE!!!

Any Ideas???

Sex, Music and Love
is what makes life worth living.

Love
Gexus
xxx

05-18-2004, 01:43 PM	#1
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	Overture For those running campaigns on both adwords and overture, how does it perform? Worth the time? I have success on adwords, and thinking of trying out overture for a change. The 10 cent per click minimum should not be a big issue, if the traffic performs similarly to adwords.

05-18-2004, 01:46 PM	#2
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,482	The traffic from Overture is not as qualified in my opinion. A lot of their listings come from expired domains displaying search results. For example: http://www.wiredsex.com/ is one such domain which is fed by Overture. It's still worth your time, but the ROI is nowhere close to that of Adwords. WG __________________ I play with Google.

05-18-2004, 02:10 PM	#6
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,482	I also forgot to mention, Overture is a pain to get any keywords listed/approved. But once you do get it approved, its pretty easy sailing from there. WG __________________ I play with Google.

05-18-2004, 03:44 PM	#11
JamesK hi Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 16,731	I'm still testing Overture & it's pretty good. You just gotta know what you're doing. I personally think Google has better traffic. __________________ M3Server - NATS Hosting

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05-18-2004, 02:05 PM	#5
EviLGuY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: malta Posts: 12,745	Yeah I dont do nearly as well on Overture or the other PPC engines as I do on Google. Lot of them are selling clicks that dont even come from searches, just a bunch of keywords on a page shown to people. Hurts the quality I think.

05-18-2004, 02:18 PM	#8
TexasGuy Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: On the net Posts: 432	I prefer Google.

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05-18-2004, 03:48 PM	#15
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	very easy to lose a crapload of money there if you dont know what youre doing.

05-18-2004, 04:22 PM	#16
Kappy Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 67	From the 6 PPC engines I've tested so far overture has by far the worst traffic, and I really mean by far. Adwords is top.

05-18-2004, 06:10 PM	#18
possescooter Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Pasadena, CA Posts: 79	I haven't personally used overture with the adult market, but for other markets (online ticket sales) is has converted FAR better than adwords in my personal experience.. I actually toured their facility one time, very impressive... __________________ Need Programming Work? Ruby/PHP/C/C++/Mysql/AJAX/JSON/C/Linux/Unix ICQ: 75179990 http://0x7a69.net

05-18-2004, 10:34 PM	#21
zeal103 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: San Francisco Posts: 10	Sex.Com was found to be a better buy by playboy. - [email protected] IM: Zeal 103 ICQ: 243-798-893

06-19-2004, 06:55 AM	#22
GeXuS PeRvErSe Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Currently UK Posts: 4	I found Overture to be too picky... I wasnt able to get me Adult DVD site published even though I coughed up over $200 which I am still waiting for a refund. they would not publish because I included golden shower, Scat, and zoo movies...less than 10% of my overall stock.... I retail EURO-HARDCORE. Yet there are site that have child porn, rape and worse that get online... I dont understand how they get a place with such vile stuff.. I don't know how to get listed on google? Thought Overture was my answer... I thought wrong. THINK CAREFULLY IF YOU ARE TRYING FOR ADULT SITE!!! Any Ideas??? Sex, Music and Love is what makes life worth living. Love Gexus xxx