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KRL 05-18-2004 01:39 AM

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Originally posted by Gman.357
So where is the real Berg guy then? Did they kill him anyway? Do they have him locked away in a basement somewhere? If the family got to view the body once it arrived back home, who did they actually identify?
It would be really suspicious if they sent the body back missing the head.

Did anyone see coffin pics of him??

That'd be kind of an easy stunt to pull on the family. If you've ever seen a dead body at a viewing they don't usually resemble the loved one very much after all the embalming fluid and makeup is put on them.

Vitasoy 05-18-2004 01:41 AM

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Originally posted by KRL
Shit now I have go and register FakeBeheadingVideos.com

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh

Gman.357 05-18-2004 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
It would be really suspicious if they sent the body back missing the head.

Did anyone see coffin pics of him??

That'd be kind of an easy stunt to pull on the family. If you've ever seen a dead body at a viewing they don't usually resemble the loved one very much after all the embalming fluid and makeup is put on them.

I haven't seen any pics of him in the coffin, and doubt that there are going to be any. If it ever comes out that the body was sent back minus the head, and the family didn't request a fingerprint analysis, I'd be very very surprised. They've been critically outspoken on other things, so if their son came back headless, I'm thinking we will probably hear about it somehow.

Al Qaida has come out to claim the video is a fraud, but more specifically, has the al-Zarqawi group in question, who claimed responsiblity for the video come out to independantly dispute their involvement?

Greg B 05-18-2004 08:21 AM

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Originally posted by Gman.357
There appears to be a rather large puddle of blood on the floor in that video. It's dark, and doesn't contrast well with the floor, but it's there.

If you examine other beheading videos (Russian video, Pearl video) there isn't much "spurting" of blood, but rather an emptying of the bloodflow... like the spilling of a bucket.

Agreed Gman.357 'except' this wasn't just a clean cut beheading. This was more of a lengthy 'slicing/sawing'. Just one freakin artery there'ld be blood all over the place, aerosols and strong bursts, gasses and fat and all kinds of junk.

If it wasn't for the bad and odd editing pattern I wouldn't even entertain all this debate.

TheMob 05-18-2004 08:28 AM

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Originally posted by KRL
Shit now I have go and register FakeBeheadingVideos.com

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh


hehe :1orglaugh

Corleone 05-18-2004 08:33 AM

could be...

Greg B 05-18-2004 08:34 AM

http://drudgereport.com/flash1.htm

Drudge report says 4 are being held in regard to the murder. Let's see what apple shakes from this tree.

tony286 05-18-2004 08:34 AM

Terrorists dont wear bullet proof vests , they think to die in battle you go right to heaven . If this was your thought why wear something to prevent it . Their hands are very pale looking for middle eastern people. Also the video quality is terrible very unclear and isnt it funny this happened the exact time the government was really starting to feel pressure from what was happening at that prison. The press better wake the fuck up, thats why we have the first amendment the press is supposed to keep the government in check.

crockett 05-18-2004 08:43 AM

I personally think the guy is dead.. why on earth would they keep him alive if indeed it was a fake..Did the CIA do it, I dunno. Did radical Muslim extremist do it.. more than likely.. But who really knows.

I honestly can't make a very good guess as I decided not to watch the video. However the post I copied from the other board brings up some very valid points and just more doubt to what was already very sketchy. Again I didn't watch it, but did the guy struggle at all while his head was getting cut off? I mean from the smalls parts of the video that I've seen (the beginning with the talking). It seems strange if this guy did indeed understand Arabic why didn't he fight at all? Is the gold ring thing true?

Doctor Dre 05-18-2004 08:45 AM

Wouldn't really surprise me ... the quality realllly sucks

Corleone 05-18-2004 09:05 AM

possible...

jm_247live 05-18-2004 09:13 AM

I think there is alot more to come out from this storie

Meta Ridley 05-18-2004 09:31 AM

The biggest piece of evidence that the video WAS NOT shot in that prison is the floors.

The Floors are completely different. Your not going to get two different kinds of floors in a governent built prision.


Next:2 cents:

Meta Ridley 05-18-2004 09:42 AM

or the floor has a mat on it,,,,,,, hmmmmmm

X37375787 05-18-2004 09:44 AM

Surely very weird.

PrivateEye 05-18-2004 09:57 AM

I did not like it fake or not...

Brat 05-18-2004 10:00 AM

I haven't watched the vid yet and I don't think I will.

I don't understand how some of you can watch it over and over lookin for evidence and the floor matching and such....ick.

Meta Ridley 05-18-2004 10:00 AM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen
There is obviously a great time difference between the two sections of the video. The screams could have been VERY easily dubbed.


The whole thing is very suspicious.

Two cameras were used with different time code (and for different angles) then it was spliced together later.

Jedimaster 05-18-2004 10:01 AM

I own over 50 of those white chairs,,,so I must have been involved,,,right?

JFK 05-18-2004 10:20 AM

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Originally posted by KRL
I thought that the minute I saw it because of all the screaming. When you're throat is sliced the last thing you're going to be able to do is scream because you start to drown in your blood.

I'm thinking that guy was an Islamic sympathizer and his death was faked and that's not his body they buried.

I dont know about the scream , He can scream initially , and the rest is the guys around him. But what occured to me when I watched it is the lack of blood. Not being knowledgable enough, but shouldnt there be spurting of blood from the main artery in your neck?? Also when they show the severed head there is no blood dripping. Still I am not going to watch it again for analisys , because I found it disturbing.

chupacabra 05-18-2004 10:20 AM

really glad *i* didn't post in this thread, don't want the C1A asking me questions when they make it here to squelch this discussion.

uh-oh.. http://twash.com/iku/sweatin.gif

Chichio 05-18-2004 10:35 AM

The gold ring thing IS true, but it's also true that Muslim men are not supposed to wear silk and a lot of rich Arabs wear silk robes.

I also read an article that talked about an Arabic translator saying that the accent is all wrong. It sounds nothing like someone from Jordan.

Fishy, but the U.S. having him killed is a stretch.


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