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SuckOnThis 05-17-2004 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
Get off his well polished know already, he didn't do shit.

If Mickey Mouse was in office during the dot com boom, people would give him credit too.. though in reality, he had squat to do with it.

Obviously you need a history lesson. Clinton had everything to do with the economy.

Just to help you out, here's just a sample of how Clinton helped the economy.

1. Released internet backbones for public use that were previously used only for government and education institutions. This in turn led to the dot com boom.

2. Gave special tax breaks for companies that invested in high tech, another reason for the dot com boom.

3. Negotiated 300 trade agreements and promoted the largest investment in higher education since the GI Bill.

4. Tax Cuts for Working Families. 15 million additional working families received additional tax relief because of the President?s expansion of the Earned Income Tax Credit.

5. Increased the Minimum Wage. The minimum wage has risen from $4.25 to $5.15 per hour, increasing wages for 10 million workers. The economy boomed within 6 months after this even though republicans argued raising the minimum wage would ruin the economy.

6. Enacted the Workforce Investment Act. The Workforce Investment Act reformed the nation?s employment and training system so that it works better for today?s workers.

7. Opening the Doors of College to All Americans. President Clinton proposed and enacted the Hope Scholarships and Lifetime Learning tax credits. In 1999, $7 billion in tax credits were claimed by an estimated 10 million American families paying for college.

8. Making College More Affordable. The Clinton-Gore Administration has cut student fees and interest rates on all loans, expanded repayment options including income contingent repayment, and improved service through the Direct Loan Program. Students have saved more than $9 billion since 1993 through the reduction in loan fees and interest rates; the average $10,000 loan costs a student $1,300 less now than it did in 1993.

9. Investing in School Construction. President Clinton fought for and won a new initiative to repair America?s schools, providing $1.2 billion in the FY 2001 budget for urgent school renovation.

All this in turn led to moving From Record Deficits (created by repugs) to Record Surplus, created 22 million new jobs, unemployment the lowest in 3 decades, most rapid growth in construction jobs in over 50 years, and the highest home ownership in history. Yep, and that was all due to the dot com boom, please.

Doesnt sound like Mickey Mouse to me, what it does sound like is there are quite a few people in this country (like yourself) that can't stand to see other people do well and cannot stand it when there are times of peace. See a shrink, you need it.

Ironhorse 05-17-2004 01:28 PM

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Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com
Now that is the funniest thing I have ever read on here!!! :1orglaugh
Even if you stick your head in the ground, you will still be stampeded :2 cents: Ignorance is bliss only for a while..

Rich 05-17-2004 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com
Michael Moore is in outter space. :Hollering

I feel sorry for anyone who believes him. :1orglaugh

So, you just shrug off everything he says and assume it's a lie, right? Do you think he's making up Bush's ties to the Saudis and the Bin Ladens, and/or their ties to funding terrorism? Do you think Bush did the right thing by ignoring the PDB called "Bin Laden determinded to attack inside the United States"? I guess it was Michael Moore who staged the entire 9/11 commission?

Why not find one inaccuracy in this movie or his book on the same subject, instead of just taking Ann Coulters word for it?

candyflip 05-17-2004 01:42 PM

My best friend's fatner wrote a book about the Bush family that came out before Bush the First was up for reelection. They tried their best to get the book off of the shelves an in some cases they were able to do so. This isn't the first time they've tried to supress something they didn't like.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/09...1.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

SuckOnThis 05-17-2004 01:42 PM

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Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
Get off his well polished know already, he didn't do shit.

If Mickey Mouse was in office during the dot com boom, people would give him credit too.. though in reality, he had squat to do with it.


And furthermore, this is what the dumbass republicans had to say during the Clinton years.

"The banks will fail. Clinton's plans will only worsen the recession."
-- Armey the foul-mouthed Dick, Degree in Economics

"Clinton's pie-in-the-sky fantasies will crash our economy."
-- Phil Gramm, pornographer, Degree in Economics

"A guaranteed disaster, without a doubt."
-- Newt Gingrich, scumbag, thief, History professor

But, as always, their predictions were dead wrong
This is what happened...

http://www.bartcop.com/chart.gif

And when it did, every lying son of a bitch Republican changed their tune.


"This is Reagan's recovery!"
-- Armey, the foul-mouthed Dick

"Reagan laid the groundwork, but Bill Clinton is trying to claim all the credit."
-- Phil Gramm, financial backer of "The Hitcher."

"Bill Clinton did not contribute anything to this recovery."
-- Newt the scumbag

"Name one thing that Clinton did to help the economy."
-- The vulgar Pigboy

That's right.
After guaranteeing Clinton would ruin the country, they switched 180 degrees and said,
"We knew all along Reagan's genius would save us."

Firehorse 05-17-2004 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by detoxed
I cant wait to see the movie

crowkid 05-17-2004 02:31 PM

Standing ovation at Cannes film festival, the worlds largest gathering of secular extremely Anti-American groups/people.... Why is my dick not hard??? BECAUSE I DONT GIVE A FUCK about Cannes and Michael Moore SHEEP

sperbonzo 05-17-2004 02:46 PM

Hey "Suck on This"

You have some classic propaganda there, but just in case you don't understand how the goverment works in the US:

All domestic policies must be passed by the house and senate.

In 1990, for the first time in 40 years, the house and senate became controlled by republicans.

70% of the policies that you mention in your post were proposed by the republicans.


And BTW, I can take quotes out of context anytime, not mention what they are in reference to, of when they were made, or what was said before or after, and make ANYONE look wrong..... You don't seem to have the first clue how to properly reference your debating points.

You sound like you are reading the DNC handbook....frankly, to me, you sound like a sheep that has learned the anti-right party line by rote.

In short...... a sheep.:2 cents:

Jon 05-17-2004 02:50 PM

Bush, the French and Michael Moore are all idiots..

Vote ME for next World Leader... err.. US President.

sperbonzo 05-17-2004 02:56 PM

and BTW, I really can't understand all the screaming about not fighting over oil.

Oil is the thing that is MOST worth fighting over on this planet. EVERYTHING is dependent on it.

Food, (agriculture), fabrics, power, anything that is any kind of plastic (which is almost EVERYTHING), most building matereals, almost all medical equipment, all manufacturing, including pharmicuticals....etc, etc, etc.... INCLUDING the ability to get any goods from one place to another on this planet.....

Actually....if oil supplies stopped tomorow, we would be back to medieval/tribal warfare over food, crouched in slowly crumbling cities or sweeping over dying cropland in the country side....in short, the complete breakdown of all society and the death of billions....

If that's not worth fighting for....name something that is:2 cents:

Downtime 05-17-2004 02:56 PM

Michael Moore is a duechebag

tahiti 05-17-2004 03:02 PM

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Originally posted by benc
Ha ha, baaaaaaaa. A standing ovation in an anti american location. Big surprise.


"My point is first of all that the Bushes were so close to the Saudis that they essentially had turned a blind eye to what was really going on before 9/11," Mr. Moore said in an interview. "And after 9/11 they were in denial."


And what was Clintons excuse btw ?


ha yeah french are anti american!?? wtf
:BangBang:
I rode stupide stuff but this brakes every records!

what are the facts to argument what your saying?:(

SuckOnThis 05-17-2004 03:08 PM

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Originally posted by sperbonzo
Hey "Suck on This"

You have some classic propaganda there, but just in case you don't understand how the goverment works in the US:

All domestic policies must be passed by the house and senate.

Of course they do, and the president has the final say on whether a bill gets passed or vetoed. Parties will often times pass a bill they don't agree with in order for their own bills not to get vetoed. Thats the way government works. Nice how you conveniently left that from your comment.

Quote:

Originally posted by sperbonzo


70% of the policies that you mention in your post were proposed by the republicans.

Name one.

Danny_C 05-17-2004 03:36 PM

I understand why some people don't like Michael Moore. I don't understand why they still question his honesty. I've seen him substantiate everything that has ever been disputed about his work. Yet I've never seen the critics substantiate their accusations that he's lying.

Pleasurepays 05-17-2004 03:53 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta
quote:
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Originally posted by benc
Ha ha, baaaaaaaa. A standing ovation in an anti american location. Big surprise."
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FYI, since you probably never attended this festival, it welcomes people from all over the world. In fact, 30 % of the professionals and the spectators are from the US ( producers, distributors, financeers, film critics, exhibitors, ...).

Sorry to break your image of a full house of as you call them " french smelly unshaven underarm" pussies....

:2 cents:

Right ... are you are talking about the same "producers" , "distributors", "financeers", "film critics" etc that booed him off stage in the US?

Pleasurepays 05-17-2004 03:54 PM

1/2 of the people there are anti-US

probably 95% of the people there are anti-Bush.

why would it be a surprise that someone who attacks both would recieve support?

Pornwolf 05-17-2004 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by Danny_C
I understand why some people don't like Michael Moore. I don't understand why they still question his honesty. I've seen him substantiate everything that has ever been disputed about his work. Yet I've never seen the critics substantiate their accusations that he's lying.
So true Danny, so true. Michael may be a bit weird and definitely left leaning but he's a thorough fact checker and has never said anything in public that wasn't backed up by several credited facts.

BeHeadR 05-17-2004 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by AlienQ
Clearly Americans won't vote for Bush but he will still be "elected".

The systems been Hi jacked dude, America is on its way out.

agreed

ronbotx 05-17-2004 07:28 PM

:Kissmy :repuke :fart :sleep

Mr. Marks 05-17-2004 07:59 PM

It must have been a great show to earn a standing a standing ovation.

swoop 05-17-2004 08:02 PM

Wonder how many half-truths this movie will have in it.

Rich 05-17-2004 08:06 PM

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Originally posted by Pleasurepays
1/2 of the people there are anti-US

probably 95% of the people there are anti-Bush.

why would it be a surprise that someone who attacks both would recieve support?

lol, where did you get those numbers from? I didn't realize the movie going crowd was so "anti US". :1orglaugh

Don't you get it? Being interested that George Bush does all kinds of shady business with the terrorists he's supposed to be fighting doesn't make someone "anti US". People who turn a blind eye to this because it suits them are the ones doing the country a disservice. If you were a real American you'd want a President who does the right thing for the country. People who support Bush under the guise of being "pro US" are the worst kind of hypocrite.

Rich 05-17-2004 08:08 PM

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Originally posted by swoop
Wonder how many half-truths this movie will have in it.
Wonder how many republicans will claim it has, compared to how many they can back up.

With Bowling for Columbine it was about 40 to 0... personally I can't wait to hear the scared pundits spreading bullshit about this one.

Pleasurepays 05-17-2004 08:16 PM

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Originally posted by Rich
lol, where did you get those numbers from? I didn't realize the movie going crowd was so "anti US". :1orglaugh

Don't you get it? Being interested that George Bush does all kinds of shady business with the terrorists he's supposed to be fighting doesn't make someone "anti US". People who turn a blind eye to this because it suits them are the ones doing the country a disservice. If you were a real American you'd want a President who does the right thing for the country. People who support Bush under the guise of being "pro US" are the worst kind of hypocrite.

your assuming i dont agree with those cheering.
or that i agree with Bush.

your wrong.
twice.


i could care less about being "a real American"

Rich 05-17-2004 08:25 PM

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Originally posted by Pleasurepays
your assuming i dont agree with those cheering.
or that i agree with Bush.

your wrong.
twice.


i could care less about being "a real American"

No, I'm assuming you somehow came up with the idea that 50% of the people in Cannes are "anti US"... and that 95% of them are "anti Bush".

I'm right.
twice.


...as usual.

Rich 05-17-2004 09:21 PM

Funny, Time magazine doesn't seem to think the idea of this movie is such a big joke.

http://www.time.com/time/arts/articl...638819,00.html

"Fahrenheit 911... has news value beyond its financing and distribution tangles"


"Bush and his father have enjoyed a long and profitable relationship with the ruling families of Saudi Arabia, including the bin Ladens. The best-seller ?House of Bush, House of Saud? by Craig Unger, whom Moore interviews, estimates that the Saudis have enriched the Bushes and their closest cronies by $1.4 billion.

Politicians reward their biggest contributors, and the Bushes are no exceptions. Fifteen of the 19 September 11th hijackers were Saudis; but when Prince Bandar, the Saudi ambassador who is close to the First Family, dined with the President in the White House two days after the attacks, the mood was collegial, not angry. In the Iraqi ramp-up and occupation, the Administration has rewarded its Saudi and Texas supporters with billions in rebuilding contracts. As Blaine Ober, president of an armored vehicle company, tells Moore: the Iraqi adventure is ?good for business, bad for the people.?

Rich 05-17-2004 09:26 PM

"Hearing from Rep. John Conyers that no member of Congress had read the complete Patriot Act before voting for it, he hires a Mister Softee truck and patrols downtown D.C. reading the act to members of Congress over a loudspeaker. Toward the end, he tries to get Congressmen to enlist their sons in the military. Surprise: no volunteers. "

Sweet.

I can't wait to see this fucker now. The fact that Bush and the Saudi's want it hidden so badly seems to indicated it has some really explosive stuff in it. I doubt any sane person could look at the facts he presents and still vote for Bush, without completely convincing themselves everything he says is a lie. Too bad most people who still support this joke of an administration will have convinced themselves it's not true before they even know what it's about. Sigh.

the indigo 05-17-2004 09:27 PM

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Originally posted by sperbonzo
and BTW, I really can't understand all the screaming about not fighting over oil.

Oil is the thing that is MOST worth fighting over on this planet. EVERYTHING is dependent on it.

Food, (agriculture), fabrics, power, anything that is any kind of plastic (which is almost EVERYTHING), most building matereals, almost all medical equipment, all manufacturing, including pharmicuticals....etc, etc, etc.... INCLUDING the ability to get any goods from one place to another on this planet.....

Actually....if oil supplies stopped tomorow, we would be back to medieval/tribal warfare over food, crouched in slowly crumbling cities or sweeping over dying cropland in the country side....in short, the complete breakdown of all society and the death of billions....

If that's not worth fighting for....name something that is:2 cents:

Duh, oil is so important because they made it important.

If you invest in development, you will easily replace oil. Look that car industry... it clearly shows that the US gouverment did not went electric cars in 1990. The technology exists since decade but if big brother doesn't want it, you're fucked up.

Rich 05-17-2004 09:30 PM

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Originally posted by the indigo
Duh, oil is so important because they made it important.

If you invest in development, you will easily replace oil. Look that car industry... it clearly shows that the US gouverment did not went electric cars in 1990. The technology exists since decade but if big brother doesn't want it, you're fucked up.

1/2 of what they spent on Iraq could have developed a fuel to replace oil and plastic forever. Don't expect superbonzo to start thinking any time soon. I'm sure he'll be the first to sign up to fight for the oil since he feels it's such a worthwhile cause.

Well, when do you ship out superbonzo?

CyberTraffic 05-17-2004 09:30 PM

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Originally posted by Loryn-Adult.com
.com
Great post!

Summed it right up.

Webby 05-17-2004 09:40 PM

I can see we got the adolescent mob in tonight with the usual diatribe about "the French" and how the Cannes Film Festival has something to do with the evil French, other than it's location.

Some are just too dumb to even begin to comprehend.... pointless!! :winkwink:

boneprone 05-18-2004 12:59 AM

I hope they hurry up and get that movie in theatres here.

I want to see it..

=^..^= 05-18-2004 01:15 AM

is that movie playing anywhere?
I bet it will take 12 months to hit cinemas here:(

rakeback 05-18-2004 01:27 AM

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Originally posted by SuckOnThis
Clinton doesnt need any excuses. He led the country to the best economic times in history, had respect of leaders around the globe, and best of all pissed off republicans enough that they felt they had to impeach him over a blow job.

Now, whats your excuse? :1orglaugh

That's the biggest load of shit I've ever heard, clinton didn't do shit for the economy, the good economy during his term was basically due to regan's enconomic moves during the inflation crisis in the 80's.

I'm not a republican either, I've been voting green since I turned 18.

The democrats and republicans are equally worthless as far as I am concerned.

bhutocracy 05-18-2004 01:37 AM

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Originally posted by liquidmoe
You're missing the ball quite a bit, if you look at the history of civil war in any nation it is because a large portion of the population is in unrest, and two conflicting sides emerge.

A large portion of the US is not in unrest, there are no two clear sides fighting each other, and the economy is actually doing quite well, just the indicators used to determine its status are a bit outdated.

There are just about 0 chances for civial war.

don't you know the aliens are here! we'll find out half of americans are aliens and civil war will ensue!

0 chances of civil war in the next few years. Vast swathes of Americans will need a fair bit of pushing to kill vast swathes of other Americans - 99% of people are horrified when one of them gets their head hacked off, that sort of thing takes time to build up internally, you can never say never, but you're going to need catastrophic changes for it to happen in the next 10 years. We have an outside enemy in the "terrorists" to keep people galvanised together for quite some time.

tahiti 05-18-2004 01:38 AM

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Originally posted by Pleasurepays
1/2 of the people there are anti-US

probably 95% of the people there are anti-Bush.

why would it be a surprise that someone who attacks both would recieve support?

WHERE DID THAT %age from?
Do you live in France? I know many american ppl who leave in Paris that could tell what ur saying is pure bullshit!
:mad:


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