Destructive Dumbass Foxcounter Morons - GoFuckYourself.com

Forkbeard · 05-16-2004, 02:53 PM

Grr. I have been using FoxCounter for YEARS and have dozens and dozens of sites and pages with their counter on there. Just now they changed the size of their counter graphic without so much as a courtesy email. Doubled the width of the little button, turning it into a small horizontal banner and destroying the layouts of all the pages I have it on. (By resizing table elements and div wrappers it was in.)

Thank god I was in the process of phasing them out anyway because of all their recent database fuckups. But still, this is gonna force me to edit a ton of pages in a hurry.

Fuckheads.

Y'all know I don't get involved in spreading hate on these boards. But this is just a fucking stupid and unprofessional thing for Fox Counter to go and do. I say again, grrr.

sweet7 · 05-16-2004, 02:58 PM

Definately a bad situation when a counter goes haywire or changes company hands.

What're you using now for a counter?

Forkbeard · 05-16-2004, 03:03 PM

Relying more on server stats of course; like a lot of newbies I used freehosts when I first started out and so I needed a counter, but once I wised up and started hosting my own stuff, I kept the counters because they can still be handy.

Don't always use a counter now, but when I do, I use masterstats. Somebody on here recommended them a month or two back when Fox Counters were down for most of a week, and I've been gradually shifting over. They do most things better, although they don't let you track back your search engine traffic as easily. (I like clicking on a referring URL to track back to the search that generated the hit; Masterstats doesn't allow that because they "strip" all the parameters when they report search engine referrers.)

zzgundamnzz · 05-16-2004, 03:16 PM

Alot of those third party counters are dying out these days

looky_lou · 05-16-2004, 03:18 PM

Foxcounter has gone nothing but downhill fast in the last year. The latest of their shit didn't fuck up any of my pages, but they seem to come up with some dumb shit every month or so.

The best free counter I have found is www.masterstats.com. Very good stats, traffic back, and they don't fuck around.

Forkbeard · 05-16-2004, 03:39 PM

Lou, I think it was you that recommend MasterStats to me -- thanks a lot.

They are good -- their latest button has me tearing my hear in frustrated admiration. It's clearly and obviously a counter button so I can't beef, but it still manages to be attractive and clickable. Fortunately, as you say, they send traffic back to make up for what leaks their way.

Paparazzi · 05-16-2004, 05:09 PM

I haven't used them since they stopped paying us and that time also without any e-mails to their users about it. After that I switched to porngraph and we all now how that ended... I don't think I will use any 3rd part counters anymore

05-16-2004, 05:30 PM

I never understood why people on paid hosting used third party counters. (makes sense on free hosting as you mentioned) Seems like they are more trouble than they are worth.

EviLGuY · 05-16-2004, 05:41 PM

Live and learn.. nothing is free, not even counters.

Unless you are like a top 10 site and can get a little traffic back.

Forkbeard · 05-17-2004, 03:00 PM

Nothing's free, but I hate it when somebody offers a service in exchange for a tiny bit of screen real estate and traffic, and then tries to hijack twice as much screen real estate without so much as an advance warning.

It's the difference between business and theft.

llabtaem · 05-17-2004, 03:02 PM

Tons of posts about counters and bullshit these days. Looks like it's time for someone to open up a reliable and trustworthy free counter program

05-16-2004, 02:53 PM	#1
Forkbeard Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: I Roam Around Posts: 2,236	Destructive Dumbass Foxcounter Morons Grr. I have been using FoxCounter for YEARS and have dozens and dozens of sites and pages with their counter on there. Just now they changed the size of their counter graphic without so much as a courtesy email. Doubled the width of the little button, turning it into a small horizontal banner and destroying the layouts of all the pages I have it on. (By resizing table elements and div wrappers it was in.) Thank god I was in the process of phasing them out anyway because of all their recent database fuckups. But still, this is gonna force me to edit a ton of pages in a hurry. Fuckheads. Y'all know I don't get involved in spreading hate on these boards. But this is just a fucking stupid and unprofessional thing for Fox Counter to go and do. I say again, grrr. __________________ Offering sponsored blog posts and custom writing services.

05-16-2004, 02:58 PM	#2
sweet7 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,792	Definately a bad situation when a counter goes haywire or changes company hands. What're you using now for a counter? __________________ ICQ: 282814268

05-16-2004, 03:03 PM	#3
Forkbeard Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: I Roam Around Posts: 2,236	Relying more on server stats of course; like a lot of newbies I used freehosts when I first started out and so I needed a counter, but once I wised up and started hosting my own stuff, I kept the counters because they can still be handy. Don't always use a counter now, but when I do, I use masterstats. Somebody on here recommended them a month or two back when Fox Counters were down for most of a week, and I've been gradually shifting over. They do most things better, although they don't let you track back your search engine traffic as easily. (I like clicking on a referring URL to track back to the search that generated the hit; Masterstats doesn't allow that because they "strip" all the parameters when they report search engine referrers.) __________________ Offering sponsored blog posts and custom writing services.

05-16-2004, 03:16 PM	#4
zzgundamnzz Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,102	Alot of those third party counters are dying out these days __________________

05-16-2004, 03:18 PM	#5
looky_lou Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,771	Foxcounter has gone nothing but downhill fast in the last year. The latest of their shit didn't fuck up any of my pages, but they seem to come up with some dumb shit every month or so. The best free counter I have found is www.masterstats.com. Very good stats, traffic back, and they don't fuck around. __________________ PUSSY - PUSSY - PUSSY! Wet & Puffy - Wet & Pissy - We Like To Suck Puffy Cash

05-16-2004, 03:39 PM	#6
Forkbeard Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: I Roam Around Posts: 2,236	Lou, I think it was you that recommend MasterStats to me -- thanks a lot. They are good -- their latest button has me tearing my hear in frustrated admiration. It's clearly and obviously a counter button so I can't beef, but it still manages to be attractive and clickable. Fortunately, as you say, they send traffic back to make up for what leaks their way. __________________ Offering sponsored blog posts and custom writing services.

05-16-2004, 05:09 PM	#7
Paparazzi Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,488	I haven't used them since they stopped paying us and that time also without any e-mails to their users about it. After that I switched to porngraph and we all now how that ended... I don't think I will use any 3rd part counters anymore __________________ Pure Level(3) Premium Bandwidth When Quality Counts

05-16-2004, 05:30 PM	#8
evildick Guest Posts: n/a	I never understood why people on paid hosting used third party counters. (makes sense on free hosting as you mentioned) Seems like they are more trouble than they are worth.

05-16-2004, 05:41 PM	#9
EviLGuY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: malta Posts: 12,745	Live and learn.. nothing is free, not even counters. Unless you are like a top 10 site and can get a little traffic back.

05-17-2004, 03:00 PM	#10
Forkbeard Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: I Roam Around Posts: 2,236	Nothing's free, but I hate it when somebody offers a service in exchange for a tiny bit of screen real estate and traffic, and then tries to hijack twice as much screen real estate without so much as an advance warning. It's the difference between business and theft. __________________ Offering sponsored blog posts and custom writing services.

05-17-2004, 03:02 PM	#11
llabtaem Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 969	Tons of posts about counters and bullshit these days. Looks like it's time for someone to open up a reliable and trustworthy free counter program