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Old 05-16-2004, 01:40 PM   #1
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I am going through some old boxes today and I stumbled onmy VHS copy, had to throw it in.

What makes this film so great?
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I am going through some old boxes today and I stumbled onmy VHS copy, had to throw it in.

What makes this film so great?
sometimes u can't tell.. it just IS great as a whole
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sometimes u can't tell.. it just IS great as a whole
yep, in the first 10 minutes already have rape and beating old people, one of the best horror movies ever. Some don't consider it horror, what the hell else is it? Thats like saying the Shining is a psychological thriller, yeah yeah yeah, tis horror.

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Ultra-violence and in-an-out.

Classic film.... at the time it was ground breaking.

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you should.. read the book aswell
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numerous profundities in that movie

i think you are challenged more in the first 5 minutes of that movie than 99.99% of all other movies ever made
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i like the style... it's 'off kilter'... i like that...

i have a feeling tarrantino watched this more than a few times....
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horror? wtf are you smoking. It's an action movie for 16-18+ yo.
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oh btw.... get talkin bout this the other day... and my mum tells
me she was afraid to sleep and paranoid bout doors being locked
for years after seeing it. Seems like it really messed her up for a
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such a great film. music, lighting, cinematography, themes.

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oh btw.... get talkin bout this the other day... and my mum tells
me she was afraid to sleep and paranoid bout doors being locked
for years after seeing it. Seems like it really messed her up for a
while.

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most women will have this reaction to a film that deals with so many trust breaking motions of deceit, degradation, and rape.

this is a man's movie, it deals with all the concepts that i can think of regarding making you uneasy throughout the experience, while both making you love and hate the charachters involved. At some times even pity.

quiet: they just ran the doorbell, and barged in, great scene its on now. ;)
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What makes this film so great?

1) fashion, gotta love the tophat, cane, boots & longjohns look...

2) violence

3) that fuggin large phallic ornament in the chick's house that was like a strange rocking horse....who wouldn't want one of those in their living room as a conversational piece?!










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4) the Milk Bar...I want one of those lactating statues, that's d0pe
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I think it still stands as the ultimate examination of the place of youth in modern society, and was prophetic in how it shows how youth would come to dominate society.

As well there is an interesting subtheme on the way government can manipulate law and opposition. I think the Bush regime has read this book, and also the chapters in Orwell's 1984 about the need for perpetual conflict to legitimize government.

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It's great to find a movie thats more chilling emotionally than physically. The whole brainwashing scene was killer!
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I think it still stands as the ultimate examination of the place of youth in modern society, and was prophetic in how it shows how youth would come to dominate society.

As well there is an interesting subtheme on the way government can manipulate law and opposition. I think the Bush regime has read this book, and also the chapters in Orwell's 1984 about the need for perpetual conflict to legitmize government.
"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

real or not this quote is good too

"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate, and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Ceasar."
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He just pulled Droog rank on em and threw them in the water and sliced the dumb ones hand.

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I saw that movie when I was young and it gave me nightmares. Especially this character.

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I saw that movie when I was young and it gave me nightmares. Especially this character.

right but the fascinating part about this story is half of the story you are gainging sympathy for him because he is stripped from his rank and leadership nd reduced to mental patient and paycho experiment. he himself suffers humiliation and degradation at the very system he hated.

the killer becomes victim.
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i live on the housing estate where it was filmed...try walking home at night with the film flashing in your head.
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I am going through some old boxes today and I stumbled onmy VHS copy, had to throw it in.

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Fletchxxx just made a great point about the viewer gaining sympathy for him this started the trend of Anti Hero movies where the "Bad Guy" Is like the Hero, Ala Falling Down, Escape From NY, etc etc

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right but the fascinating part about this story is half of the story you are gainging sympathy for him because he is stripped from his rank and leadership nd reduced to mental patient and paycho experiment. he himself suffers humiliation and degradation at the very system he hated.

the killer becomes victim.
yup, that's what makes the movie so damn powerful

The rapist/murderer/theif becomes a shadow of a man due to forced exposure to sexually violent imagery and of course a little bit of Ludwig Von on the soundtrack. You start to feel sorry for him because he's not really reformed, rather just has all his power to respond taken away from him.

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right but the fascinating part about this story is half of the story you are gainging sympathy for him because he is stripped from his rank and leadership nd reduced to mental patient and paycho experiment. he himself suffers humiliation and degradation at the very system he hated.

the killer becomes victim.
I was 14 when I saw it and I remember thinking why did my parents let me go to this movie.
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I am going through some old boxes today and I stumbled onmy VHS copy, had to throw it in.

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Definately agree that it's somewhat of a horror film though. The first ten minutes are quite brutal.
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right now he's talking to the priest in the library about the "treatment" he heard about that will help him get out.
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WOW nobody see past the violence and rape? Whats wrong with you guys ...

3 words:

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I haven't seen that in years! I saw it when I was very little....
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Do you know how many ass kickings that movie inspired?

Shit, I remember when it foirst came out on HBO, I think the level of violence went thru the roof for a solid month!

Now they actually warn you not to let your little retard kids see flicks like that LOL
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You asked what makes this movies so great, everybody says it's the violence when it's not !
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You asked what makes this movies so great, everybody says it's the violence when it's not !
and i was hoping youd go a bit deeper ;)

saying "BF Skinner" and not mentioning anything else leaves too many questions, go a bit deeper?
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heres a pic of my boy angelo all clockwork oranged out...
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Old 05-16-2004, 03:23 PM   #49
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When i first saw this film many years ago in London the thing that i remembered most was the car I think it was called a PROBE MK 5 made by the Marcus Brothers who made a range of Cars in London with Plywood chassis i seem to remember one was called a Marcus 1600 cool cars for their time. You can still see them in the UK , i believe they had plans to make more a few years back but don't know what happened.

Clockwork Orange and another film called Blow-Up with David Hemming's, used to be popular in the late sixty's early seventies London scene.






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Old 05-16-2004, 03:26 PM   #50
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Clockwork Orange and another film called Blow-Up with David Hemming's, used to be popular in the late sixty's early seventies London scene.

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my husband is a big fan of blow-up - essential to understand London at the time
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