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Doc911 · 05-14-2004, 08:41 PM

Chechnya: Muslim resistance fighters end 'interogation' of OCCUPATION soldier by cutting his throat and cutting off his head on camera with audio too.
Playback http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub.../chechclear.asf

eroswebmaster · 05-14-2004, 08:42 PM

that's a rough one.
..seen it before.

Pipecrew · 05-14-2004, 08:42 PM

that video is so old.... Someone post the timeline pic

Doc911 · 05-14-2004, 08:57 PM

I never said it wasn't old

I just "wonder" about the authenticity of the nick burg beheading.

this one leaves no doubt.

newsdude · 05-14-2004, 10:09 PM

I'm still not watching that one either!

Rob · 05-14-2004, 10:15 PM

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Originally posted by newsdude
I'm still not watching that one either!

DON'T! I watched it 4 years ago and it still haunts me!!! That is THE most horrific thing I have ever witnessed. Much, much worse than the Berg decapitation. For the love of all that's holy, don't watch it!!!

sumphatpimp · 05-14-2004, 10:19 PM

my own circumscsion was tramatic enough for me.

beheading just ain't my thing.

aSStig · 05-14-2004, 10:19 PM

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Originally posted by Doc911
Chechnya: Muslim resistance fighters end 'interogation' of OCCUPATION soldier by cutting his throat and cutting off his head on camera with audio too.
Playback http://txliberty.dyndns.org/inetpub.../chechclear.asf

whatta....... how come that link was invalid............
hey please do something about it, i wanna see it please..........

aSStig · 05-14-2004, 10:20 PM

CANNOT BE FOUND................

Gman.357 · 05-14-2004, 10:20 PM

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Originally posted by Doc911
I never said it wasn't old

I just "wonder" about the authenticity of the nick burg beheading.

this one leaves no doubt.

Here's an idea. Go to his grave site, dig him up, and see for yourself if his head was cut off or not. That's should be proof enough.

I can understand questioning who was in fact responsible for his death, but I have a hard time grasping why some think the tape is a fraud simply because it wasn't "graphic" enough. I saw the Daniel Pearl beheading. It really didn't show much more than this one.

Don't forget, the video you're seeing on the net is probably 4th generation, and heavily compressed.

Pleasurepays · 05-15-2004, 12:34 AM

i would say the actual beheading (Berg) was not a real execution... that was my first impression. he looked dead already, he did not move, he did you convulse before or after or anything. it just looked fake.

xenigo · 05-15-2004, 12:37 AM

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Originally posted by Pleasurepays
i would say the actual beheading (Berg) was not a real execution... that was my first impression. he looked dead already, he did not move, he did you convulse before or after or anything. it just looked fake.

Dude, I heard he was screaming. That sounds pretty real to me.

Pleasurepays · 05-15-2004, 12:39 AM

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Originally posted by xenigo
Dude, I heard he was screaming. That sounds pretty real to me.

and were the sounds of having his head hacked off accompanied by any sort of body movement? no.

could you be still while you were having your head sawed off with a knife? or is that just strong discipline?

Pleasurepays · 05-15-2004, 12:41 AM

i mean it all just felt and looked wrong. the Russian one for example, leaves no doubt.

The Truth Hurts · 05-15-2004, 12:43 AM

Al-Jazeera says it's fake... and by the standards and practices of GFY - if anyone other than the American media says something, it MUST be true.

pure energy · 05-15-2004, 12:47 AM

Now why did I click on that link?

Gman.357 · 05-15-2004, 01:06 AM

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Originally posted by Pleasurepays
and were the sounds of having his head hacked off accompanied by any sort of body movement? no.

could you be still while you were having your head sawed off with a knife? or is that just strong discipline?

As far as being "still", he was tied up, and held down by 2 or more men. Movement would be minimal. There did seem to be a struggle while the blade severed the neck, up to a point.

Also, the body convulsions you were looking for probably would not exist since the decapitation was so "slow". If it were a quick, instant decapitation, you would expect such movement after the fact, but when the process took well over 5 seconds, I'm not convinced noticable convulsions of the body would occur.

As for blood loss, you really can't tell exactly how much blood was pouring from the neck during the cut because of the low quality of the video. It's possible (since the duration of the cut was so long) that a good deal of blood was expelled, and wouldn't be gushing from the stump when it was held up to the camera (as a comparison, Daniel Pearl's head wasn't gushing blood either).

Unless you're an expert on cutting a man's head off, I see no reason to doubt this video's authenticity in that respect.

xenigo · 05-15-2004, 01:32 AM

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Originally posted by Gman.357
Unless you're an expert on cutting a man's head off, I see no reason to doubt this video's authenticity in that respect.

He must be speaking from experience.

BlueDesignStudios · 05-15-2004, 01:33 AM

the russian video is the worst.. (I Think)

Pleasurepays · 05-15-2004, 01:45 AM

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Originally posted by Gman.357
Also, the body convulsions you were looking for probably would not exist since the decapitation was so "slow". If it were a quick, instant decapitation, you would expect such movement after the fact, but when the process took well over 5 seconds, I'm not convinced noticable convulsions of the body would occur.

i understand what you are saying. i just personally don't believe it. when i was a freshman, 3 senior kids tried to grab me and stick my head in the toilet. i went bat shit... there was no way that was going to happen and they gave up because even though there was 3 people and they were all twice my size, they could not hold me.

that was voluntary behavior. resisting death is not. even with hands tied and someone kinda sorta holding his legs.. i personally don't believe that a person would just lay there like that while someone saws their head off unless they are already heavily sedated or dead. who knows what effect the trauma might have on him and what role shock and other factors played... but i don't think that when a knife slices into your throat, you would just lay there.

as for blood... well... arteries are arteries. when they get cut... blood gushes out. it does not matter how slow or fast the artery is cut when it is severed in 1/2. this guys heart would be beating at max .. probably 170-200 beats a minute with two of the bodys major arteries in the neck, not to mention all the other blood vessels. how much blood would be pumped out in a few seconds at someones maximum heart rate? quite a bit.

montel · 05-15-2004, 01:50 AM

i know not to watch this...

Gman.357 · 05-15-2004, 01:54 AM

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Originally posted by Pleasurepays
i understand what you are saying. i just personally don't believe it. when i was a freshman, 3 senior kids tried to grab me and stick my head in the toilet. i went bat shit... there was no way that was going to happen and they gave up because even though there was 3 people and they were all twice my size, they could not hold me.

that was voluntary behavior. resisting death is not. even with hands tied and someone kinda sorta holding his legs.. i personally don't believe that a person would just lay there like that while someone saws their head off unless they are already heavily sedated or dead. who knows what effect the trauma might have on him and what role shock and other factors played... but i don't think that when a knife slices into your throat, you would just lay there.

as for blood... well... arteries are arteries. when they get cut... blood gushes out. it does not matter how slow or fast the artery is cut when it is severed in 1/2. this guys heart would be beating at max .. probably 170-200 beats a minute with two of the bodys major arteries in the neck, not to mention all the other blood vessels. how much blood would be pumped out in a few seconds at someones maximum heart rate? quite a bit.

You're entitled to your opinion. I just feel the initial shock, combined with the massive loss of blood, being tied and held down would dramatically impede one's ability to struggle or even move. Blood loss would be great indeed, but what I'm talking about was blood coming from the stump of the neck that was attached to the head while it was shown to the camera. Some people have stated they expected blood to be gushing from this area, which isn't necessarily so. Again, the Daniel Pearl video is a good example of that.

But... it's all a matter of speculation on our part regardless, since I'm assuming niether of us has ever actually severed a head from a living human being.

Cheers.

xxxoutsourcing · 05-15-2004, 02:00 AM

Link is invalid

James White · 05-15-2004, 02:08 AM

He might have not resisted because he knew he'd die one way or another. But i would have to go with the theory that sedatives were involved more than like.y

Global-X · 05-15-2004, 02:47 AM

404 error, what a shame...............

Odin88 · 05-15-2004, 03:48 AM

www.porn-sex-list.com/chechen.asf

Was posted here a few days ago, I think the link still works. Pretty sickening. Actually it is very sickening to know that someone can do that to another, but I personally don't find it haunting as such. The guy being killed is quite young too (must be 18 or so).

reynold · 05-15-2004, 03:59 AM

Not another one!

More Booze · 05-15-2004, 06:14 AM

I remember when I watched this video back in school, he looks so scared before he gets his throat cut, I dont know why but thats the part that makes me most sad

joshuawk · 05-15-2004, 07:19 AM

Two guys hold his legs/body down. One guy holds his head
by the hair and one guy holds his head to cut it.

pxxx · 05-15-2004, 07:28 AM

No more beheading videos for me, i saw the nick berg, and i cannot EAT!!!!!!!

TheFrog · 05-15-2004, 07:34 AM

that russian one is bad

WebTitan · 05-15-2004, 07:39 AM

seen it befor and have no desire to see it again, that one kept me up for a few nights...ugh...

zzgundamnzz · 05-15-2004, 07:54 AM

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Originally posted by HighOnAcid
DON'T! I watched it 4 years ago and it still haunts me!!! That is THE most horrific thing I have ever witnessed. Much, much worse than the Berg decapitation. For the love of all that's holy, don't watch it!!!

I agree, I saw this one and Im done with watching any of those videos

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Pleasurepays BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in a pile of boogers Posts: 11,913	i mean it all just felt and looked wrong. the Russian one for example, leaves no doubt.

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More Booze Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 5,116	I remember when I watched this video back in school, he looks so scared before he gets his throat cut, I dont know why but thats the part that makes me most sad

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