ARS about to tank?

[xxxjay]

I don?t like to start rumors, but I?ve heard from pretty good sources that almost the whole staff has been laid off except for the FMAO and Traffic Dude.

They downsized massively once. Continued downsizing is a very bad sign.

I will say that their sites are still showing sales and I still get my checks every week, so dodn?t mistake this as an ARS dis ? just a heads up.

[beemk]

i get my check every week, thats all that matters.

[KRL]

Who's the tweetie bird?

Sometimes its a good sign when a company prunes unproductive people.

I really doubt ARS could possibly have any problems whatsoever. You have any idea how many rebills they must have in their billing inventory?

I'm sure its in the top 5 in our industry.

[TheFrog]

yeah right, ARS are solid - someone is talking crap if they say they are "about to tank"

[KRL]

Originally posted by beemk
i get my check every week, thats all that matters.

You must not have been around during the IEG days.

Lots of people still got checks. Try cashing them.

[Rawz]

If they were about to tank why would they dump cash into a new program ? That really wouldn't make alotta sense .

[Global Dialers]

yeah i heard the same thing about people losing their jobs the dude who did all their mainstream affiliate sales stuff has gone for sure

[ZoiNk]

As long as their restructure becomes profitable, they will stay. Their old paysites and BYOT looked unprofitable to me by the end, and I see why they shut it down. As long as they make an income off of their new paysites and don't pay it all out to sigwhores, they will continue to live. I see their main problem as paying for sigwhores, hard to get that back with fresh sales, since almost everyone already has an ARS account, and they pissed off a lot of ppl with the changes.
ZoiNk

[On-top]

Originally posted by KRL
You must not have been around during the IEG days.

Lots of people still got checks. Try cashing them.

I've still got a couple $.02 - $.03 IEG checks in a box somewhere.

[xxxjay]

I did say I do get my checks.

I know they are big.

Just posting what I've heard and what I've been predicting would happen.

[Doctor Dre]

They got a lot of rebills but they closed a lot of sites too . And their signups ammount are way lower too (My friend that was in the top 5-10 in the past year all the time, is now first or 2nd all the time with 2 times less signups then he used to have)

[stev0]

I bet they'll get rid of the sig program soon... doesnt seem profitable for them anymore. They got their name recognition out there already.

[ATL_Ryan]

Can anyone here say they are still doing the same amount of business that they were doing 6 months ago? Seems like most of the threads I've seen lately have been 'I used to be 1:300 with ARS and now I'm 0:4500. Is anyone doing well with the new system? I haven't heard anything good.

[DR_PHIL]

always starts with a small rumor then tomorrow i wake up to a big thread about it.

[WiredGuy]

I hope for the best for them. They've been restructuring a lot lately since FMAO and ARS4R came out so maybe they're just going through some changes to see what works.

WG

[EviLGuY]

I doubt this is going to happen.. ARS is pretty solid... but in this industry anything is possible.

[beemk]

Originally posted by KRL
You must not have been around during the IEG days.

Lots of people still got checks. Try cashing them.

hahaha yeah good point, but i cash all my checks fine too.

[Babel]

they are doing just fine

[teomaxxx]

Originally posted by KRL


I'm sure its in the top 5 in our industry.

Look at their current top webmaster rank, not a lot of sales to be in their top 10.

[sumz]

ARS is solid for sure. I´m also sure that they are not doing as well as they used to be.
But inmy eyes the CHAMPS looks very promising and might be a big thing.

[SetTheWorldonFire]

I stopped promoting them once they shut thier old sites down.

I was 1:100 with those sites. Why would they do that to anyone who works hard to promote then pull the plug. Unprofessional... especially when you have tons of ppl backing you and in the biz for long time.

[Rictor]

Most companies in this business could cut 95% of their employees without a problem. Most mainstream companies too. We all know 5% of the people do 95% of the work. It's just the way the world works.

[PersianKitty]

I'm doing great with my new CHAMPS site.

If anyone wants to promote it.. it's Porn Hardcore. Guaranteed listings for free sites and galleries submitted promoting it (assuming they follow the normal criteria).

[xxxjay]

Hey...for the record:

1. I hope this isn't true.
2. I still have an active account with ARS.
3. My checks get cashed.

On the flip side:

1. I've been in the business for a long time.
2. I have good sources (not just optimistic sig whores)
3. I've heard the same thing over and over

And on the flip side of that:

1. I don't know this means they are in trouble
2. I don't know they are about to tank

That's why I included a "?" in the post title -- to open the topic for discussion.

[bdeforest]

ARS is not going out of business. We are just restructuring our staff as well as working out new business models. Change is necessary for any business to remain profitable and successful. We are here for the long run

[EvilFubAr]

Our staff is larger today than it was when we moved to Vegas 2 years ago.

[SomeCreep]

Originally posted by KRL

I really doubt ARS could possibly have any problems whatsoever.

Is that a joke? Do you remember that they just recently shut down their entire portfolio of sites? That means lots of problems.

"They are back" now with new reality sites and new payout rates, but not before screwing over countless webmasters.

[Jon]

Whether it's true or not.. This thread is going to start more talk amongst the community than before. Goodluck ARS.

[Pipecrew]

Bye Bye

[doober]

Rough.....

[latinasojourn]

Originally posted by Doctor Dre
They got a lot of rebills but they closed a lot of sites too . And their signups ammount are way lower too (My friend that was in the top 5-10 in the past year all the time, is now first or 2nd all the time with 2 times less signups then he used to have)

here's the reality:


1. the adult web is evolving, and going through what is called a "correction" right now.

2. the total number of new surfers coming onto the internet is no longer growing at exponential rates.

3. in the past 18 months new adult sites have come online in exponential rates---many of these are hahahahahaha cutter type sites---they will not convert very well for very long.

4. the pie is getting cut into smaller pieces for individual operators.

5. surfers are becoming more jaded (and more sophisticated)---older business models are RAPIDLY changing. what worked good 180 days ago may not work much at all right now.

6. unless you can create unique and compelling content which will entice the surfer, you need to look at another line of work---simply getting the girl naked now isn't enough. right now mainstream projects are generating better revenues than smut.

7. surfers are losing an interest in clinical type hardcore. softcore is now selling as well as hardcore. creating intimacy or a "connection" with the surfer sells.

8. more women are looking at smut---it is an untapped market, and there is very little for them.

9. if all you can do is produce POV stuff shooting into a girl's face you need to get more creative, any college kid with a DV cam and a girlfriend is your competition.

[Theo]

Changes take time. Optimization takes time. ARS spends a lot of money on developing new exclusive sites. I had some worries at the beginning as well, but now I strongly believe they are on the path many companies will be forced to follow soon.

[TheSwed]

They are still no:1

[xxxjay]

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
Changes take time. Optimization takes time. ARS spends a lot of money on developing new exclusive sites. I had some worries at the beginning as well, but now I strongly believe they are on the path many companies will be forced to follow soon.

If they can keep updateing their new reality sites and just don't let them get stale - they should be in good shape.

This should be hard to do with without staff, but they may outsource.

I think the new reality sites look good - they made it into my top conversions:

http://www.jays-xxx-links.com/links/webmasters.html

Though they were a long way from one of my top money makers.

[PR_Dave]

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
Changes take time. Optimization takes time. ARS spends a lot of money on developing new exclusive sites. I had some worries at the beginning as well, but now I strongly believe they are on the path many companies will be forced to follow soon.

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[Jive]

Originally posted by xxxjay
I don?t like to start rumors, but I?ve heard from pretty good sources that almost the whole staff has been laid off except for the FMAO and Traffic Dude.

They downsized massively once. Continued downsizing is a very bad sign.

I will say that their sites are still showing sales and I still get my checks every week, so dodn?t mistake this as an ARS dis ? just a heads up.

All have to comment on Marc-D's infamous ARS programs for sure.. and he has others too..

1) He only payed selected players and payed them very well.
2) there chat board showed the world he was making alot of people pissed off from shaving them to death and frauding alot of webmasters..
3) he made alot of money period.
him showing off alot of his cars etc on other threads..
how did he makes his earning how do you think?

If he goes under thats awsome! he shaved his way outta a business! He tried to fuck me over many years ago handing out very little money in return getting top notch traffic from me..

tell them to hit the road.. sorta like maxcash did tanked

my opinion but there's no new honest programs taking there place online? we'll just have sit back and keep looking for that just right program..

[Hustler DJ]

Originally posted by latinasojourn
here's the reality:

1 through 9, great fuckin' post Latinasojurn!!!
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[Jive]

Originally posted by SomeCreep
Is that a joke? Do you remember that they just recently shut down their entire portfolio of sites? That means lots of problems.

"They are back" now with new reality sites and new payout rates, but not before screwing over countless webmasters.

now I give you a long over due standing ovation!

that sorta also reminds me of http://wegcash.com too..
another deadend they paid me out for 2 months then tried to screw me.. get lost wegtrash!

[Grinder]

Originally posted by On-top
I've still got a couple $.02 - $.03 IEG checks in a box somewhere.

Me too!!!

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Lay offs for a tech company does not mean business is bad. As things automate and programming gets cheaper to outsource you will be seeing a lot of this.

A friend of mine has a company that was top heavy in programmers. He let 10 of them go which saves him over a million a year. Since it's his company that's a million a year in his pocket.

[SoBeGirl Video]

Originally posted by latinasojourn
here's the reality:


1. the adult web is evolving, and going through what is called a "correction" right now.

2. the total number of new surfers coming onto the internet is no longer growing at exponential rates.

3. in the past 18 months new adult sites have come online in exponential rates---many of these are hahahahahaha cutter type sites---they will not convert very well for very long.

4. the pie is getting cut into smaller pieces for individual operators.

5. surfers are becoming more jaded (and more sophisticated)---older business models are RAPIDLY changing. what worked good 180 days ago may not work much at all right now.

6. unless you can create unique and compelling content which will entice the surfer, you need to look at another line of work---simply getting the girl naked now isn't enough. right now mainstream projects are generating better revenues than smut.

7. surfers are losing an interest in clinical type hardcore. softcore is now selling as well as hardcore. creating intimacy or a "connection" with the surfer sells.

8. more women are looking at smut---it is an untapped market, and there is very little for them.

9. if all you can do is produce POV stuff shooting into a girl's face you need to get more creative, any college kid with a DV cam and a girlfriend is your competition.

This dude is smart.

[Michael O]

Originally posted by Jive
All have to comment on Marc-D's infamous ARS programs for sure.. and he has others too..

1) He only payed selected players and payed them very well.
2) there chat board showed the world he was making alot of people pissed off from shaving them to death and frauding alot of webmasters..
3) he made alot of money period.
him showing off alot of his cars etc on other threads..
how did he makes his earning how do you think?

1) I never heard anyone didn´t get paid by ARS if it wasn´t because they cheated

2) I read their board daily over the last 3-4 years I have only seen a few people being pissed off and a lot less than I see about every other program on here for example.

3) He sure did make a lot of money. He made the right choices at the right times making ARS a big profitable company for both webmaster and himself. The business model ARS wasn´t any longer profitable and they changed it.

I used ARS for a long time I was most of the time happy and when I wasn´t I always expressed my opinion on their board I´ve never hidden my opinion on ARS and up untill the change I was happy with them and the way they did business. The change over to ARSRI was handled very poorly, it seemed very unprofessional to me and a lot of mistakes were made and some of the issues should have been handled a different way. I stuck with them and promoted their new sites and did OK, they are still one of very very few programs I trust.

With all this said I almost stopped promoting ARS because I think the change to ARSRI was handled so poorly and for me it was time to move on to other programs but I am sure that there is still a lot of money to be made from their new sites.

[LA Mike]

the sky is falling the sky is falling... And if Jive says something it must be true. He has more divine knowledge and wisdom then any other 16 year old in this business so it must be true... lol

Get um Becky!!

[KRL]

Originally posted by teomaxxx


Look at their current top webmaster rank, not a lot of sales to be in their top 10.

They lost their following but they still have all those rebills.

[JohnV]

Originally posted by LAMike
the sky is falling the sky is falling... And if Jive says something it must be true. He has more divine knowledge and wisdom then any other 16 year old in this business so it must be true... lol

Get um Becky!!

Becky is a great mentor Mike...she knows what's up

BTW, damn you're Lakers last night

[BRISK]

Oh the drama of this industry

[WiredGuy]

Originally posted by LAMike
the sky is falling the sky is falling... And if Jive says something it must be true. He has more divine knowledge and wisdom then any other 16 year old in this business so it must be true... lol

Get um Becky!!

LOL
WG

[Global Dialers]

Originally posted by EvilFubAr
Our staff is larger today than it was when we moved to Vegas 2 years ago.

but it isnt as large as it as 2 weeks ago

[Manowar]

"Everything is fine, there are no problems"

[teomaxxx]

Originally posted by Manowar


"Everything is fine, there are no problems"

[KRosh]

Originally posted by latinasojourn
here's the reality:


1. the adult web is evolving, and going through what is called a "correction" right now.

2. the total number of new surfers coming onto the internet is no longer growing at exponential rates.

3. in the past 18 months new adult sites have come online in exponential rates---many of these are hahahahahaha cutter type sites---they will not convert very well for very long.

4. the pie is getting cut into smaller pieces for individual operators.

5. surfers are becoming more jaded (and more sophisticated)---older business models are RAPIDLY changing. what worked good 180 days ago may not work much at all right now.

6. unless you can create unique and compelling content which will entice the surfer, you need to look at another line of work---simply getting the girl naked now isn't enough. right now mainstream projects are generating better revenues than smut.

7. surfers are losing an interest in clinical type hardcore. softcore is now selling as well as hardcore. creating intimacy or a "connection" with the surfer sells.

8. more women are looking at smut---it is an untapped market, and there is very little for them.

9. if all you can do is produce POV stuff shooting into a girl's face you need to get more creative, any college kid with a DV cam and a girlfriend is your competition.

apparently you have never owned your own paysites.