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Old 05-15-2004, 06:54 PM   #101
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Wow, I've read this entire post and I simply cannot believe that not a single person here has said anything about the validity of this so called "test". There are waaaaaaaaaaaaay to many variables to draw any sort of conclusions based on the performance of one gallery listing.
In point of fact I made exactly the points that you did.

Which is bye the bye. Looking over this thread again, it struck me how few designers have put up their hands. Usually when Joe Blow asks for galleries, they come out of the woodwork. Yet here is a chance for some good exposure and they become a bunch of shrinking violets.

The cynical might wonder whether that has anything to do with some of them not being too confident about the ability of their designs to earn money?
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Old 05-16-2004, 12:48 AM   #102
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In point of fact I made exactly the points that you did.

Which is bye the bye. Looking over this thread again, it struck me how few designers have put up their hands. Usually when Joe Blow asks for galleries, they come out of the woodwork. Yet here is a chance for some good exposure and they become a bunch of shrinking violets.

The cynical might wonder whether that has anything to do with some of them not being too confident about the ability of their designs to earn money?
Pretty ironic eh?

BUMP for all the fake ass designers who are good at spamming but less good at designing.
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Old 05-16-2004, 12:49 AM   #103
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how long till this gets done ? looking forward to the results
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Old 05-16-2004, 01:41 AM   #104
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I'm anxious to see the results also. Come on..
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Old 05-16-2004, 02:54 AM   #105
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A gallery spot should be priced at a decent amount, where a retard wont make his money back and a pro should make 4 times a money back.
They don't make that much money,that's the reason tgp owners sell spots.You might be lucky if you hit a target niche with good content,but making more than double if your are lucky is an illusion.The TGP owners know the values

Gallery building is no rocket sience,you just have to copy or make a decent layout so there will be a high clickrate (doesn't even have to be graphic,html is enough) and good content of course, but a look at the TGP should tell you what kind of content will do it and what kind of content won't.So if you aren't super retarded everybody is able to do that.
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Old 05-16-2004, 02:55 AM   #106
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They don't make that much money,that's the reason tgp owners sell spots.You might be lucky if you hit a target niche with good content,but making more than double if your are lucky is an illusion.The TGP owners know the values

Uhm yes, a pro can and will make his money back 4 times. On sleazy, the hun, everywhere.
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Old 05-16-2004, 03:08 AM   #107
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I assumed he found a fucken designer by now.

Oh well if ya not got one yet, fuckit...

I will bust but if the content is lame and blown out I aint puttin myass on the line

Design will cost ya 100.00.
Its a hi profile case with alot of eyeballs.

Dont think I should do it cheaper either for publicity and I will get more business that philosophy is shit.

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Old 05-16-2004, 03:24 AM   #108
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OOp nevermind looks like Eros got it.

He can do well, I been watching em
Free...

Shame on you Eros but its all good
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Old 05-16-2004, 03:28 AM   #109
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how long till this gets done ? looking forward to the results
Waiting for results too
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Old 05-16-2004, 05:49 AM   #110
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OOp nevermind looks like Eros got it.

He can do well, I been watching em
Free...

Shame on you Eros but its all good
Haha sorry man...I guess I should have charged. But it sounded like a fun challenge.
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Old 05-16-2004, 06:14 AM   #111
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Wow, I've read this entire post and I simply cannot believe that not a single person here has said anything about the validity of this so called "test". There are waaaaaaaaaaaaay to many variables to draw any sort of conclusions based on the performance of one gallery listing.

If you want to do a real test buy yourself a package for $2,000.00 and average the results of your 12 galleries.
You'd have to be a fool to attempt to judge the quality of a particular traffic source based on the performance of one gallery! Whether your particular gallery does well or whether it does poorly, it will tell you nothing about the overall quality of the traffic from SleazyDream. A single gallery listing does not = a "test", period!

That's exactly what i wanted to say
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Old 05-16-2004, 06:27 AM   #112
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it would be a good idea for 5 (more?) webmasters buy a gallery spot each and do the test.
thus the test will be able to say whether those 300/day suck on SD
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Old 05-16-2004, 08:18 AM   #113
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It's in eroswebmaster's hands right now.

AlienQ : Stop whining
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Old 05-16-2004, 09:06 AM   #114
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NoCarrier - Are you missing a few nuts and bolts?

It started out that you were on a mission to prove a point.
Then as posts went along you became more and more cocky.

People are trying to assist you, give you advice on what they have seen for themselves from running such paid spots. They are not debating on what you should or should not do, take it for what it is and be happy with it.

People were attempting to tell you that a onetime test is not accurate enough to judge sleazys traffic, I'm sure with your SE traffic it took a while to come to understanding the proper format for that type of traffic flow is.
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Old 05-16-2004, 09:16 AM   #115
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NoCarrier - Are you missing a few nuts and bolts?
Yes. That's why life is so interesting.

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It started out that you were on a mission to prove a point.
Then as posts went along you became more and more cocky.
Actually. I was being friendly. I would be telling them to "shut the fuck up already" if I wasn't. I'm sure you would do the same after replying the same thing 10 times in the same thread.

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People are trying to assist you, give you advice on what they have seen for themselves from running such paid spots. They are not debating on what you should or should not do, take it for what it is and be happy with it.
Yes. They gave their opinions and I thanked them. And yes I'm very happy. Thanks.

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People were attempting to tell you that a onetime test is not accurate enough to judge sleazys traffic, I'm sure with your SE traffic it took a while to come to understanding the proper format for that type of traffic flow is.

Don't push it. I want to stay friendly. You have the answer in this thread.
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Old 05-16-2004, 09:23 AM   #116
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It's in eroswebmaster's hands right now.

AlienQ : Stop whining
WHo's whinning? Bwahh hahah!

Lets see when this is over

This should be interesting.
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Old 05-16-2004, 11:38 AM   #117
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I do like the test and your approach but I do have to say you're starting to come over very unfriendly... i.e. AlienQ just offered his services as everyone else and updated his post later as he realized Eros already got the job.

You're starting to sound more and more Sleazy... is this test getting to ya?
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Old 05-16-2004, 11:50 AM   #118
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I do like the test and your approach but I do have to say you're starting to come over very unfriendly... i.e. AlienQ just offered his services as everyone else and updated his post later as he realized Eros already got the job.

You're starting to sound more and more Sleazy... is this test getting to ya?
What did I say to upset AlienQ? The "stop whining" comment? Oh please!

That was a friendly comment

He was not upset at all and looks like he can't wait to see the results.

Look, I respect everyone's opinion. Even those who do not agree with the test.

I'm not calling them idiots because I don't agree with them. That's a major difference.
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Old 05-16-2004, 12:00 PM   #119
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If you havent found a designer to do this yet - use undutchable he is the best gallery desginer out there

his icq is 11915886
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Sleazy this is a good time to spam your packages - what are the various price points for 1, 5, 10, 50 gallery spots, etc. ???
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Old 05-18-2004, 03:10 AM   #121
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so how's the test going? is the gallery ready?
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Old 05-18-2004, 03:11 AM   #122
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Uhm yes, a pro can and will make his money back 4 times. On sleazy, the hun, everywhere.
are you a pro?
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Old 05-19-2004, 11:11 AM   #123
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Old 05-19-2004, 11:20 AM   #124
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Damn.... this shouldve been done within 48 hours of the thread.
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what sponsor is being used? who's hosting the gallery?
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Old 05-19-2004, 11:35 AM   #126
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What did I say to upset AlienQ? The "stop whining" comment? Oh please!

That was a friendly comment

He was not upset at all and looks like he can't wait to see the results.

Look, I respect everyone's opinion. Even those who do not agree with the test.

I'm not calling them idiots because I don't agree with them. That's a major difference.
there's a difference between respecting someone's opinion and knowing they are an idiot. I know that difference.
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Old 05-19-2004, 11:47 AM   #127
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still no news on this? i want to see the results.
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still no news on this? i want to see the results.
It's in eroswebmaster's hands right now.
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Old 05-19-2004, 11:57 AM   #129
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there's a difference between respecting someone's opinion and knowing they are an idiot. I know that difference.
Telling them they are is not respecting them.

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Old 05-19-2004, 11:58 AM   #130
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It's in eroswebmaster's hands right now.
All the drama for a 300 dollar spot on sleazydream..You could at least already book and pay for your order....Now it will take ages dude..Is this the first time you buy spots?
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All the drama for a 300 dollar spot on sleazydream..You could at least already book and pay for your order....Now it will take ages dude..Is this the first time you buy spots?
If you don't like drama, don't read threads.

How can I book if I don't even know when I'm going to get the gallery.

Nice suggestion..

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buy spots - very bad idea !
TGP owners must make money with their traffic
but no with sell spots for webmasters, submited gallery , imho
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Do you have any idea of when the gallery design will be ready??
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Do you have any idea of when the gallery design will be ready??
I'm booking for Friday may 28. I have to send the gallery at the latest by May 25.

And eroswebmaster was nice enough to do it for free. Don't rush him!

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I'm booking for Friday may 28. I have to send the gallery at the latest by May 25.

And eroswebmaster was nice enough to do it for free. Don't rush him!
Check your email. ;)
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I can't wait for the results.
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Excellent reply........


































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I'm booking for Friday may 28. I have to send the gallery at the latest by May 25.
And eroswebmaster was nice enough to do it for free. Don't rush him!
Looking forward to see that gallery, will you post it?
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idiot, read threads before posting your useless sig
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Gallery spot is paid and booked.

It should appear on friday may 28.
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Gallery spot is paid and booked.

It should appear on friday may 28.
Ok I did think the idea was that SleazyDream did not know what day it was comeing but ok... best of luck
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Ok I did think the idea was that SleazyDream did not know what day it was comeing but ok... best of luck
I wonder how many credit cards he has?
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Only one. It's enough.
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Ok I did think the idea was that SleazyDream did not know what day it was comeing but ok... best of luck
It's his TGP. I don't see how I can hide it. And that's not the point anyway.

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