What about Belize and Latvia for Offshore?

[Mrdredd]

What are you guys' opinions on getting an account in Belize or Latvia (Baltics)?


Any cons to those two locations?

Thanks


Latvia offers coded and anon accounts: (which is what I want)

Anonymous Coded Accounts have No Visible Ownership and Are Coded by Account Name Chosen by Beneficial Owner

Inbound & Outbound Wire Transfer capability via Internet

Ensure Anonymity and Non-Access to Account & Beneficial Owner Identity through Strict Nondisclosure Laws

[TDF]

I can always go back home to pick up my cash

[Mr.Soze]

I got some friends who have accounts in Latvia, suppose to be
pretty safe.

[monro]

Originally posted by Mr.Soze
I got some friends who have accounts in Latvia, suppose to be
pretty safe.

No no!

Efter joining EU ( this year ) all bank accounts will be wide open.

[polish_aristocrat]

I've heard Latvia got shitty

[Mrdredd]

By wide open - what do you mean?
WHO will have access to the information - and since the account is coded and anonymous, does it make a differance?


god damn this fucking EU shit - anyone know where I can get a coded and anon account someplace safe?

I need to store a ton and deposit once every month and I need a debit card (visa or m/c)

[chowda]

Originally posted by Mrdredd
By wide open - what do you mean?
WHO will have access to the information - and since the account is coded and anonymous, does it make a differance?


god damn this fucking EU shit - anyone know where I can get a coded and anon account someplace safe?

I need to store a ton and deposit once every month and I need a debit card (visa or m/c)

why dont u look closer to home... like st kit and nevis or some smaller island country?

[Theo]

Don't get just an account,but create an anonymous offshore co.

[Gunni]

Originally posted by Mrdredd
By wide open - what do you mean?
WHO will have access to the information - and since the account is coded and anonymous, does it make a differance?


god damn this fucking EU shit - anyone know where I can get a coded and anon account someplace safe?

I need to store a ton and deposit once every month and I need a debit card (visa or m/c)

Deffinately Uruguay!
You can even set up an anonimous corporation there...

I know that's were fethard is based, and they've been around for years, so I imagine it is pretty safe. Although be ready to ship your dough out as soon as you smell trouble, they might end up like Argentina...

[Nydahl]

I got several off shore acc. in Latvia and its very safe and working great.I can highly recommned.I also have some accounts in Lichtenstein and Latvia is better

[Mrdredd]

got some contacts in uruguay i can contact?

Im looking at st.kitts and nevis now - im skittish at these newb sites because I dont want my deposit stolen or my cash once i actually deposit it.

[Theo]

Originally posted by Gunni


Deffinately Uruguay!
You can even set up an anonimous corporation there...

what's the tax rate for corp?

[Mrdredd]

Originally posted by Nydahl
I got several off shore acc. in Latvia and its very safe and working great.I can highly recommned.I also have some accounts in Lichtenstein and Latvia is better

yeah, but because it joined the EU - will it matter if I have a coded and anon bank acct?

[Gunni]

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel


what's the tax rate for corp?

You negotiate that with the right people

[monro]

Originally posted by Nydahl
I got several off shore acc. in Latvia and its very safe and working great.I can highly recommned.I also have some accounts in Lichtenstein and Latvia is better

By the new EU rules, ALL banks in EU ( except Gibraltar ) must give accou/t info to the goverment(s). Ie report every year accontholders name and address, interest paid and the balance of the account.

[Gunni]

Originally posted by Mrdredd
got some contacts in uruguay i can contact?

Im looking at st.kitts and nevis now - im skittish at these newb sites because I dont want my deposit stolen or my cash once i actually deposit it.

Here's a nice site regarding uruguay http://www.uruguayinvest.com

You could try to contact the guys at fethard.biz
They should know something about it

[digifan]

Originally posted by Mrdredd
By wide open - what do you mean?
WHO will have access to the information - and since the account is coded and anonymous, does it make a differance?


god damn this fucking EU shit - anyone know where I can get a coded and anon account someplace safe?

I need to store a ton and deposit once every month and I need a debit card (visa or m/c)

Epassporte? It id anon, they give you a Visa card and safe.

[icedemon]

I've been thinking about Nevis for awhile now. What are some good companies that can help setup a corporation and bank account?

[KRL]

Nevis in St. Kitts

[Mrdredd]

Yeah, I'd be interested too in some recommendations for Nevis/St. Kitts

But they have to provide anon and coded

[raceman]

Only place that is safe is the Isle of Man, self governed and is not a member of the EU and never will be, there are several Carribean Banks that have offices there..............

Dats why I chose to live there...........

The other threads are correct in terms of EU membership which then puts disclosure of information open to scrutiny...


RACEMAN

[Mrdredd]

How reputable is fethard and uruguay invest? Both have pro sites... I want something soon

[Broda]

Originally posted by Gunni


Deffinately Uruguay!
You can even set up an anonimous corporation there...

I know that's were fethard is based, and they've been around for years, so I imagine it is pretty safe. Although be ready to ship your dough out as soon as you smell trouble, they might end up like Argentina...

If you go offshore, never do your banking in the same country the company's registered in.

So, if you have an ibc or whatever it's called, in Uruguay, have your company account in Panama or something

[icedemon]

Originally posted by KRL
Nevis in St. Kitts

Are you saying Nevis is in St. Kitts?
http://www.geographia.com/stkitts-nevis/mappage.htm
Looks like two different islands to me. They're right next to each other though.

[Theo]

There's no ultimate offshore solution. Everyone of them has advantages and disadvantages. It depends what exactly you want to guarantee and what are you willing to pay for setup.

- tax rate/double taxation treaties
- anonymity and how easy or hard is to be raised and by who
- maintenance cost
- accounting obligations
- reputation, political and social stability of the country

You'll better make the right decision since it's your money. You don't gamble with such things.

My advise is to write all down on a paper and do your own research. www.ocra.com is one of the best places to start.

[kmanrox]

i bank in latvia.... ab.lv is great for online wires.. they dont accept non-former USSR entities anymore though (I guess if you had a few mil they'd reconsider) but if you were to go to a branch in the former USSR you can open an account there, but you have to do it in person...

[KRL]

Originally posted by icedemon


Are you saying Nevis is in St. Kitts?
http://www.geographia.com/stkitts-nevis/mappage.htm
Looks like two different islands to me. They're right next to each other though.

Nevis is one of the islands on St. Kitts & Nevis.

There's a Four Seasons Hotel on the Island.

[KRL]

[Nydahl]

Originally posted by monro


By the new EU rules, ALL banks in EU ( except Gibraltar ) must give accou/t info to the goverment(s). Ie report every year accontholders name and address, interest paid and the balance of the account.

doesn't matter for me.All you must do is established off shore company.You need to set up a director , who is able to establish bank account - you don't even need to meet your director - who knows if this person even exists?You are just a share holder of the company.Bank can provide any information about your company or your director but it has nothing to do with you.The country where is your company located won't provide anybody with your info - if you have good registrant officer and choose right country.
+ must get annonymouse debet card for ATMs so no bank have record about debet card holder.

[Nydahl]

Originally posted by Broda


If you go offshore, never do your banking in the same country the company's registered in.

So, if you have an ibc or whatever it's called, in Uruguay, have your company account in Panama or something

what he said

[Mrdredd]

nydahl - can you give me some recommends on someone to contact who will do everything for me and get it all setup to keep me from doing most any of the work?


Can you do it for me?

I want anon and coded account and setup some shell corp and shit,

my icq is in sig

[Goblin]

Bank of Latvia
http://www.bank.lv/eng/info/jaunzin/

Banks
http://www.ab.lv/en/?lngcng=1
http://www.hansabanka.lv/
http://www.rietumu.com/

Latvia pictures
http://www.lv/pictures/index.php
Virtual Riga - the official city guide of the Latvian capital
http://www.virtualriga.com/
About Riga
http://www.riga.lv/EN/Channels/About_Riga/default.htm

[Mrdredd]

anyone got recommends as to a firm or someone i can hire out to get everything setup for me/

[Mr.Soze]

Originally posted by monro


By the new EU rules, ALL banks in EU ( except Gibraltar ) must give accou/t info to the goverment(s). Ie report every year accontholders name and address, interest paid and the balance of the account.

Gibraltar also have to give out info about interest paid after what I heard,
but only if the account holder is a citizen of a country which is in the European Union.
If your not from a country within the EU, they don't have to give out any info.

I don't think they give out the balance of the account as well? Atleast my bank didn't say that.

[Nydahl]

Originally posted by Mrdredd
anyone got recommends as to a firm or someone i can hire out to get everything setup for me/

will contact you in few sec ok?
must finish something here

[Nydahl]

Originally posted by Goblin
Bank of Latvia
http://www.bank.lv/eng/info/jaunzin/

Banks
http://www.ab.lv/en/?lngcng=1
http://www.hansabanka.lv/
http://www.rietumu.com/

Latvia pictures
http://www.lv/pictures/index.php
Virtual Riga - the official city guide of the Latvian capital
http://www.virtualriga.com/
About Riga
http://www.riga.lv/EN/Channels/About_Riga/default.htm

rietumu is a very good bank (no big one but really good) but I must warn you - they closed my account after they know that I am in adult biz - they didn't care that my yearly overturn was more then 1 million USD and even this account belong to non adult company of mine.
I just used my adultczechcontent.com email adress once

[Mrdredd]

Originally posted by Nydahl

will contact you in few sec ok?
must finish something here

ok will do, im going to cook dinner so i might be there right away

[Calvinguy]

Originally posted by monro


By the new EU rules, ALL banks in EU ( except Gibraltar ) must give accou/t info to the goverment(s). Ie report every year accontholders name and address, interest paid and the balance of the account.

As I know Luxembourg, Austria and Belgium are exempted from this law:

http://www.kaupthing.lu/resources/files/EU_taxation.pdf

[Mike Semen]

YAh Riga is ok but there are a few anon. trusts you should stay away from. Some VERY bad people over there too.

Just use your common sense.

[Webby]

Mrdredd:

Anonymous Coded Accounts have No Visible Ownership and Are Coded by Account Name Chosen by Beneficial Owner

Inbound & Outbound Wire Transfer capability via Internet

Ensure Anonymity and Non-Access to Account & Beneficial Owner Identity through Strict Nondisclosure Laws

Hi Dredd!

Don't take this as any offense :-) But the fact that you want anonimity raises some problems!

Apart from the Marshall Islands and Andorra, there are not really any true anonymous "offshore" jurisdictions. Also.. don't even think about trying either of these locations on the basis of anonimity - they are very fussy! :-)

As a general clue.... most "offshore" banking jurisdictions have no problem with anything that is "honest" and which does not offend their own laws or is not the proceeds of certain crimes.

The prime cause for concern is money laundering and drug dealing - ie Russians walking thru the door with suitcases of cash.

Other than that, they really don't care - it is not their business to be supplying other jurisdictions with your personal data - this is, in fact, a criminal offence in most offshore areas to disclose client information. They don't care about your tax problems in whatever country you reside - that's your problem :-)

Finally... don't be conned by idiots who promise all that anonymous shit! :-) Yes, it is available, but the banks involved sure want to know all about you before opening any accounts :-)

The only "real" way to use full offshore services is to actually be offshore! In that instance, it is totally above board and "legal".

[Webby]

BTW... Belize banks will pass any info out under pressure :-) Latvia is another story - a better one!

[Mrdredd]

Originally posted by Webby
The prime cause for concern is money laundering and drug dealing - ie Russians walking thru the door with suitcases of cash.

Other than that, they really don't care - it is not their business to be supplying other jurisdictions with your personal data - this is, in fact, a criminal offence in most offshore areas to disclose client information. They don't care about your tax problems in whatever country you reside - that's your problem :-)

What about the United States govt (i.e. FBI.) asking questions?

What are they obligated to do then if anything, and will they keep private information PRIVATE?

Do you have a recommendation of a good bank which is secure and respectable for their privacy policy, etc?

[Mrdredd]

oh, and do I know you from someplace?

[Webby]

Mrdredd:

What about the United States govt (i.e. FBI, Treasury Dept.) asking questions?

What are they obligated to do then if anything, and will they keep private information PRIVATE?

Hi Dredd!

MMMMMM! There is nothing worse on the face of this planet than the US IRS telling lies to get information on US citizens :-) You in the US?? Sadly this is the only country that chases this kinda stuff.

Example... an actual instance! A US person has accounts in Switzerland. The IRS approached the bank and asked them to open their accounts on this individual. Clearly they refused since it is against the law to disclose this and the IRS have no business asking in the first place.

Then... six months later, they call on the bank again, but with "backup" from the FBI and present the bank with statements that their client is a drug dealer, a child molestor and.. forget.. something else :-) The bank sits back and reconsiders their position and eventually opens the account info asked for in the first place. The "subject" of this case ended up in a cell.

In real life... this came out at the court case, this individual was never a drug dealer, child molestor or anything else - but he was removing cash out of the US to "deprive" the IRS of their dollars.

Normally all this would not be a problem, but the fact that you *may* be a US citizen raises and entirely different scenario. There are only three countries that demand their citizens be subject to taxation on worldwide income, irrespective of where they actually earn and live. One of these countries in the US and another is Lybia and some other place ... think Saudi.

Seriously.. you need good professional taxation advice if you are a US citizen - else this is a very "twitchy" area. All this can be done, but it needs careful planning and be "acceptable" to any IRS inquiry.

[bigdog]

Originally posted by Webby
Mrdredd:



Hi Dredd!

MMMMMM! There is nothing worse on the face of this planet than the US IRS telling lies to get information on US citizens :-) You in the US?? Sadly this is the only country that chases this kinda stuff.

Example... an actual instance! A US person has accounts in Switzerland. The IRS approached the bank and asked them to open their accounts on this individual. Clearly they refused since it is against the law to disclose this and the IRS have no business asking in the first place.

Then... six months later, they call on the bank again, but with "backup" from the FBI and present the bank with statements that their client is a drug dealer, a child molestor and.. forget.. something else :-) The bank sits back and reconsiders their position and eventually opens the account info asked for in the first place. The "subject" of this case ended up in a cell.

In real life... this came out at the court case, this individual was never a drug dealer, child molestor or anything else - but he was removing cash out of the US to "deprive" the IRS of their dollars.

Normally all this would not be a problem, but the fact that you *may* be a US citizen raises and entirely different scenario. There are only three countries that demand their citizens be subject to taxation on worldwide income, irrespective of where they actually earn and live. One of these countries in the US and another is Lybia and some other place ... think Saudi.

Seriously.. you need good professional taxation advice if you are a US citizen - else this is a very "twitchy" area. All this can be done, but it needs careful planning and be "acceptable" to any IRS inquiry.

good read i never thought about the fbi stopping that low

[Mrdredd]

OK, first this isnt about taxes

Second, the money will never touch any of my USA bank accounts - it will go straight to the offshoure bank and will not have my name on it either, except maybe if the offshoure bank isnt anonymous.

What can you recommend now, based on those details?

I need something that wont crack under pressure... I know the tricks the govt. plays here.(usa)


Hmmmm...... are you webby from the antigua excursion??

[Webby]

bigdog:

good read i never thought about the fbi stopping that low

Believe me.. if the FBI/Justice Dept want to know something about the affairs of folks they can prosecute in the US, they will lie till doomsday!

I got pleny other examples... the list is extensive.. down to literally kidnapping US folks and having a Gulfstream jet ready to whisk em back to US territory and avoiding/offending normal extradiction procedures in the country they took the guy from :-)

[Webby]

Mrdredd :

Sounds like we know each other!!!

If it ain't just about taxes and is "clean" - don't think you got any problems!!

You got ICQ going?? :-)

[Mrdredd]

Do now

[Webby]

Be right with ya!!