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Old 05-13-2004, 02:59 PM   #1
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I resisted watching the beheading video untill now...

I just watched it on Consumption Junction.

First, to whoever is about to comment something like "There is a thread about it started every 5 minutes bla bla bla" , just do yourself a favor and hit the back button. You shouldn't have clicked this thread in the first place..


The video is disturbing. Ruined my day. I feel the way most people felt when watching this fucked up video. Just pure anger. I think how the world would be a much better place without muslims. Yes, that's what comes to my mind after seeing those unhumans with the towels on their heads screaming "Allah Hua Ackbar" (God is great) in ecstasy, and cutting off the head of this poor guy, who just sat there and didn't realize, so called humans can do such thing...

that's just very sad, and my heart goes out to Rick Berg's family as well as thousands of other families who lost their loved ones because of muslim terrorists...

btw, Is there a translation of what the head-unhuman in the middle was reading all this time? I can pretty much sum it up (lots of fucked up islamic bullshit), but I would like to read it just out of curiosity
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just barbaric... i blame myself of witness such cruel man is to humans, just a sad for all
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It seems like a lot of people don't understand how much beheading goes on in the Islamic world.

Saudi Arabia does this all the time as do most of the other countries run by royal type authoritarian governments.

Saudi Arabia even cuts your hands off if you just get caught stealing something.

They slaughter animals this way too. Just grab its head and start sawing away without stunning them first. I've seen some of these vids from my animal rights stuff and the animals start freaking out and screaming in pain and fear.

To the Islamic culture its not a big deal. To the West its shocking.
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The translation:

Praise be to Allah who honoured Islaam with His support, and humilated shirk with His power, and control of the affairs with His Command, and seducer (mustadrij)with His plotting (makr).

To proceed:

O ummah of Islaam!

Glad tidings! For the signs of Fajr (i.e. day-light) have begun, and the winds of victory have rised, for Allah has honoured us with a great victory in Faloojah, in a day from the days of Allah, and so all grace is for Allah alone.

O ummah of Islaam!

Is there still an excuse for the seated-one? And how can a free Muslim sleep close-eyed whilst seeing Islaam being slaughtered, and he sees the bleeding of honour, and the images of shame, and the news of satanic abuse on the people of Islaam, men and women, in the prison of Abu Ghrayb. So where is the jealousy, and where is the zeal, and where is the anger for the religion of Allah? And where is the jealousy over the honour of the Muslims, and where is the revenge taken for the honour of the Muslim males and females in the prisons of the Crusaders.

As for you, O scholars of Islaam, then to Allah we complain (about you), do you not see that Allah has established the evidence on you by way of the youth of Islaam who humiliated the most paramount of powers in history, and broke its nose and destroyed its arrogance?

Has the time not come for you to learn from them the meanings of tawwakul (reliance on Allah), and to seek guidance from their actions lessons in sacrifice and forebearance, until when will you remain like the women, not knowing better than to wail, and not knowing a path except the path of screaming and crying?

So this (scholar) appeals to the free-men of this world, and the other seeks tawwasul (help) from Kofi Anan, and a third calls for help from 'Amr Moosa, and a fourth calls for peaceful demonstrations, as though they have not heard of the saying of the Most High: "O Messenger, arouse the believes on fighting"

Are you not fed up (lit. full up) of the Jihaad of the conferences and the battles of giving sermons, has the time for you not come to lift the sword with which the master of the Messengers was sent with?

And we hope, that you will not place yourself in a dillemma (after seeing) what we will do, as you usually do to please the Americans.

For the Messenger, sallallahu 'alayhi wa salam - and he is the master of the merciful ones - has commanded with the slaughtering of some of the prisoners of Badr, and killed them with all patience. And in him, we have an example and a good model.

As for you O dog of the Romans Bush, then have tidings of what will displease you, and await with the assistance of Allah for hard days, and you will regret - you, and your soldiers - on the day you set on the soil of 'Iraaq.

And another message for the treacherous stooge, Perveez Musharraf, then we say to him: We are in the highest of desires, awaiting your soldiers. For by Allah, we will seek them before the Americans, and will avenge for the blood of our brothers in Waana and other than it.

As for you, O mothers and wives of the American soldiers, then we say to you: We offered the American adminstration a (chance) to rescue this prisoner (by exchanging him) with some in the prison of Abu Ghrayb, so she declined. So we say to you: The honour of the Muslims males and females in the prison of Abu Ghrayb and other than it, is offered at the price of blood and souls, and nothing will reach you from us, except corpses following corpses, and coffins following coffins slaughtered in this manner.

"So kill the mushrikeen wherever you see them, and take them, and sanction them, and await them at every place"

[Takbeeraat, then end.]


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To the Islamic culture its not a big deal. To the West its shocking.
yeah man, leave the goats alone, but damnit let me go rent Hannibal, or texas Chainsaw Masacre (original of course)
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It seems like a lot of people don't understand how much beheading goes on in the Islamic world.

Saudi Arabia does this all the time as do most of the other countries run by royal type authoritarian governments.

Saudi Arabia even cuts your hands off if you just get caught stealing something.

They slaughter animals this way too. Just grab its head and start sawing away without stunning them first. I've seen some of these vids from my animal rights stuff and the animals start freaking out and screaming in pain and fear.

To the Islamic culture its not a big deal. To the West its shocking.
exactly why the thought that ran through my head was how the world would be better without Islam...

But really, I don't care if it's ok in their culture and they do it to each other.

What bothers and disturbs me is that they want the normal people to be like them
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The translation:

Praise be to Allah who honoured Islaam with His support, and humilated shirk with His power, and control of the affairs with His Command, and seducer (mustadrij)with His plotting (makr).

To proceed:

O ummah of Islaam!

Glad tidings! For the signs of Fajr (i.e. day-light) have begun, and the winds of victory have rised, for Allah has honoured us with a great victory in Faloojah, in a day from the days of Allah, and so all grace is for Allah alone.

O ummah of Islaam!

Is there still an excuse for the seated-one? And how can a free Muslim sleep close-eyed whilst seeing Islaam being slaughtered, and he sees the bleeding of honour, and the images of shame, and the news of satanic abuse on the people of Islaam, men and women, in the prison of Abu Ghrayb. So where is the jealousy, and where is the zeal, and where is the anger for the religion of Allah? And where is the jealousy over the honour of the Muslims, and where is the revenge taken for the honour of the Muslim males and females in the prisons of the Crusaders.

As for you, O scholars of Islaam, then to Allah we complain (about you), do you not see that Allah has established the evidence on you by way of the youth of Islaam who humiliated the most paramount of powers in history, and broke its nose and destroyed its arrogance?

Has the time not come for you to learn from them the meanings of tawwakul (reliance on Allah), and to seek guidance from their actions lessons in sacrifice and forebearance, until when will you remain like the women, not knowing better than to wail, and not knowing a path except the path of screaming and crying?

So this (scholar) appeals to the free-men of this world, and the other seeks tawwasul (help) from Kofi Anan, and a third calls for help from 'Amr Moosa, and a fourth calls for peaceful demonstrations, as though they have not heard of the saying of the Most High: "O Messenger, arouse the believes on fighting"

Are you not fed up (lit. full up) of the Jihaad of the conferences and the battles of giving sermons, has the time for you not come to lift the sword with which the master of the Messengers was sent with?

And we hope, that you will not place yourself in a dillemma (after seeing) what we will do, as you usually do to please the Americans.

For the Messenger, sallallahu 'alayhi wa salam - and he is the master of the merciful ones - has commanded with the slaughtering of some of the prisoners of Badr, and killed them with all patience. And in him, we have an example and a good model.

As for you O dog of the Romans Bush, then have tidings of what will displease you, and await with the assistance of Allah for hard days, and you will regret - you, and your soldiers - on the day you set on the soil of 'Iraaq.

And another message for the treacherous stooge, Perveez Musharraf, then we say to him: We are in the highest of desires, awaiting your soldiers. For by Allah, we will seek them before the Americans, and will avenge for the blood of our brothers in Waana and other than it.

As for you, O mothers and wives of the American soldiers, then we say to you: We offered the American adminstration a (chance) to rescue this prisoner (by exchanging him) with some in the prison of Abu Ghrayb, so she declined. So we say to you: The honour of the Muslims males and females in the prison of Abu Ghrayb and other than it, is offered at the price of blood and souls, and nothing will reach you from us, except corpses following corpses, and coffins following coffins slaughtered in this manner.

"So kill the mushrikeen wherever you see them, and take them, and sanction them, and await them at every place"

[Takbeeraat, then end.]


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exactly why the thought that ran through my head was how the world would be better without Islam...

But really, I don't care if it's ok in their culture and they do it to each other.

What bothers and disturbs me is that they want the normal people to be like them
That's why the US is taking a foothold center stage in the Middle East.

From Iraq they'll be introducing Western (anti-Islamic culture) to slow the spread and growth of it.

Not many people know this but Norm Pattiz setup an Arabic TV network that's being funded by US taxpayers to blast out to the Arab world and "American" biased version of the news over there to take market share away from Al Jazeera.

Can you believe that. A Jewish guy running an Arab TV network. That's classic!



Bush got $62 Million from Congress to fund it.
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exactly why the thought that ran through my head was how the world would be better without Islam...

But really, I don't care if it's ok in their culture and they do it to each other.

What bothers and disturbs me is that they want the normal people to be like them
I didn't see them invading any foreign countries and pushing their views on them.
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I didn't see them invading any foreign countries and pushing their views on them.
China, India, Sri Lanka, Indonesia, Phillipines, France, Spain, Michigan....
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China, India, Sri Lanka, Indonesia, Phillipines, France, Spain, Michigan....
Are you talking about Muslims in general? You could say the same thing about Christians or Jews... I was thinking more of Iraq under Saddam.

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I didn't see them invading any foreign countries and pushing their views on them.
I don't want to start a discussion about this right now.

but "Pushing their views on them"?
give me a break. Israel is a democratic state and gives complete religious freedom to it's citizens.

Invading...
you probably are not aware that the jewish people had a historical and moral right on this place. The jewish people were here in the first place and have been exiled.

Do you think the jewish people just randomly picked a spot on the globe, and it came up to be Israel, so they "invaded" it?

also, lands were bought of the hands of the arabs for money....and there are a lot of other things, but you're too ignorant to realise them.

America was also invaded. It belonged to the Indians. You live in Canada if I remember correctly. It was also invaded. The natives were all kinds of eskimoes, white bears and such....
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Are you talking about Muslims in general? You could say the same thing about Christians or Jews... I was thinking more of Iraq under Saddam.
Iraq invaded Kuwait...

well....
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That's why the US is taking a foothold center stage in the Middle East.

From Iraq they'll be introducing Western (anti-Islamic culture) to slow the spread and growth of it.


That's the way to go. They don't know how to live, so they need to be taught.

There are positive results already. although small and unnoticeable as for now, but it's a progress...
see how Kaddafi has suddenly become America's best friend. He even invated the ISRAELI chess team to participate in a competition in LYBIA! That's just sensational. not kidding
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It seems like a lot of people don't understand how much beheading goes on in the Islamic world.

Saudi Arabia does this all the time as do most of the other countries run by royal type authoritarian governments.

Saudi Arabia even cuts your hands off if you just get caught stealing something.

They slaughter animals this way too. Just grab its head and start sawing away without stunning them first. I've seen some of these vids from my animal rights stuff and the animals start freaking out and screaming in pain and fear.

To the Islamic culture its not a big deal. To the West its shocking.
Beheading was pretty standard stuff throughout the western world as well until just some centuries ago, additionally I was reading some ancient history the other day and slaughtering animals for religious ritual dominated the entire Middle East and Asia Minor as far as Greece for millennia.

Good Samaritans in Israel still enjoy a good goat blood draining ritual now and then or a Hassidic chicken spin, so it really doesn't apply only to arabs. After all Jews and Arabs, fruits from the same tree, let's not even compare Israelis and Palestinians, can you really tell them apart?

Some celtic tribes used to line the walls of their homes with skulls of their enemies and who hasn't heard of the 'head shrinkers'.

Sad thing is most of us in the last couple of generations have been living in some kind of dream world, and those born in US have been particularly ignorant of history and the way things STILL work in some parts of the world. I think 911 was a painful introduction, and unfortunately the lessons continue..will we ever learn?
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Sad thing is most of us in the last couple of generations have been living in some kind of dream world, and those born in US have been particularly ignorant of history and the way things STILL work in some parts of the world. I think 911 was a painful introduction, and unfortunately the lessons continue..will we ever learn?
"we" don't need to learn anything....
They need to learn how things go in the part of the world which underwent some sort of progress in the last few centuries
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Beheading was pretty standard stuff throughout the western world as well until just some centuries ago, additionally I was reading some ancient history the other day and slaughtering animals for religious ritual dominated the entire Middle East and Asia Minor as far as Greece for millennia.

Good Samaritans in Israel still enjoy a good goat blood draining ritual now and then or a Hassidic chicken spin, so it really doesn't apply only to arabs. After all Jews and Arabs, fruits from the same tree, let's not even compare Israelis and Palestinians, can you really tell them apart?

Some celtic tribes used to line the walls of their homes with skulls of their enemies and who hasn't heard of the 'head shrinkers'.

Sad thing is most of us in the last couple of generations have been living in some kind of dream world, and those born in US have been particularly ignorant of history and the way things STILL work in some parts of the world. I think 911 was a painful introduction, and unfortunately the lessons continue..will we ever learn?
Yep, there's an event coming up soon where they will slaughter 100,00 lambs in the name of Islam.

Kosher slaughter is also done without stunning.
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That's the way to go. They don't know how to live, so they need to be taught.

There are positive results already. although small and unnoticeable as for now, but it's a progress...
see how Kaddafi has suddenly become America's best friend. He even invated the ISRAELI chess team to participate in a competition in LYBIA! That's just sensational. not kidding

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Yep, there's an event coming up soon where they will slaughter 100,00 lambs in the name of Islam.

Kosher slaughter is also done without stunning.
Don't they still do ritual slaughter during the Hajj pilgrimage? I was surprised to find that out. I prefer if they had kept the orgy rituals, but those were Verboten with the coming of Muhammad.
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I didn't see them invading any foreign countries and pushing their views on them.
Then look a little harder.

Saddam did try to invade kuweit.

And it is my opinion that he should have been brought down then when there was just cause, not now.

When that happened and the coaltion forces drove them back they should not have stopped at Bagdad but taken Saddam out all the way.

What's happening now is Bullshit and Bush has no legitimate business being there. He's simply to late.
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