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Old 05-12-2004, 10:10 AM   #1
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It's obvious people of muslim and religious decent...

....cannot contain their savage ways. True, not all are violent, but push their buttons and they can and WILL kill.

Just looking at the screencaps of the beheading was enough for me. It's time to cleanse this planet of Muslim trash.

I don't wanna hear your "not everyone is like that" speeches people. This is serious shit. You think this is the first time this has happened? People are killed EVERY fucking day like this over religious extremist beliefs. That's what this all boils down to. They think they are doing everything in the name of god. Fuck that, god does not intend for people to kill everyone. These people do not hold life sacred. Nothing to me is worth killing over except death itself.

It's not just limited to Muslims either. Look at the Irish fighting... It's fucking ridiculous. At least in North America when we don't like someone's religion, we just don't deal with them or worse comes to worse they get their asses kicked. People don't get kidnapped and beheaded to get even with opposing religions and to prove that god is almighty.


I sincerely think it's time all peace loving nations band together and nip this shit in the butt. I was against Canada getting involved with this shit but I am now happy that our Prime Minister is rebuilding relations with Bush and rebuilding our Military. It's time we all waltzed in there and incinerated all that oppose world order. Killings like this will NEVER stop until all people capable of it are destroyed. We will NEVER have anything remotely close to peace until murderous thugs are a thing of the past a fear is driven into people abroad that there will be hell to pay to those who pull this kind of shit.

Look at what these people are capable of. Every day someone's child (old or young) is murdered very violently to prove "god is almighty" and to prove that there is "death to infidels"

Time to clean house. You don't see Muslim descendants in North America going on like this. We have laws here, you murder someone and you fry on a chair. I hate to say it, but for the better of the whole world for centuries to come, it's best to destroy that whole fucking band of nations and it's extremist people in one foul swoop. Innocent will die, in the long run, it is a sacrifice worth it's while.

I can't believe I am saying this,,, but I'm all for Canada going over there with you guys and cleaning house now.

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Moron! Look at deaths in america. Are they Muslims who kill each other every day in America? No, there christain, catholic and some other trash...

Kill your own kind too, because 14,000 murders in America each year is a hell of a more than murders in the middle east.
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It's not just limited to Muslims either. Look at the Irish fighting... It's fucking ridiculous. At least in North America when we don't like someone's religion, we just don't deal with them or worse comes to worse they get their asses kicked. People don't get kidnapped and beheaded to get even with opposing religions and to prove that god is almighty.

yeah you assholes didnt try to burn the pagans out of existence.
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LOL

There are plenty of cool Muslim's out there. Dont let any radical group influence your opinion.
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yeah you assholes didnt try to burn the pagans out of existence.

The Catholics tried to one, it was called the Inquisition


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Apparently you're assuming that the extremist muslims that are very prominent in the public eye are the ones that exemplify all that the religion and way of life has to offer. Apparently, you know nothing of Islam, have never read the Koran and it's advocacy of peace, etc etc etc.

These fucking extremists are by no means exemplary of their people. Just because they're the only ones you hear about doesn't mean they're all like that. I don't remember the last time I heard a news story on the 11 o'clock news talking about peace-loving people who don't want to do anything but worship their god and do their thing without conflict. Something tells me it's just not a good story waiting to happen. Of course though, because all that's spoonfed to the masses is murder and mayhem, that's what the masses will think it's all about. That's what they're SUPPOSED to think. Justification is a bitch, isn't it?

Funny though if you think about it, the EXACT same thing is happening over there, and THEIR masses are being convinced that the Americans are horrible, bloodthirsty murderers too. Take a look at the other side of the coin. Wonder what kind of assumptions they're making about the Christians, eh?
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Moron! Look at deaths in america. Are they Muslims who kill each other every day in America? No, there christain, catholic and some other trash...

Kill your own kind too, because 14,000 murders in America each year is a hell of a more than murders in the middle east.


I agree on that front too man, But right now, what's going on in the middle east is in immediate danger of changing teh whoel world for the worst.

At least over here, murderers are dealt with. Preventing them is a different story and will need to be dealt with as well. but as I said, we have mroe immediate concerns.
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yeah you assholes didnt try to burn the pagans out of existence.
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Christians killed too,all the missionair shit,holy wars,blah,religion is something for retards

The US just should have stayed away from the Iraq not invade it with fake reasons.The americans kill iraqi people,iraquis kill americans that's the way it goes down there now and that all mustn't had happened.So think next time before you invade countries and cry when your own people get killed.
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I agree on that front too man, But right now, what's going on in the middle east is in immediate danger of changing teh whoel world for the worst.

At least over here, murderers are dealt with. Preventing them is a different story and will need to be dealt with as well. but as I said, we have mroe immediate concerns.
The thing is, there is nothing really happening over there that hasn't been happening for hundreds, if not THOUSANDS of years. The only reason it's being brought to the attention of the American public now is because there's Americans over there involved. If it hadn't happened that Bush invaded, you wouldn't care, would you?
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Apparently you're assuming that the extremist muslims that are very prominent in the public eye are the ones that exemplify all that the religion and way of life has to offer. Apparently, you know nothing of Islam, have never read the Koran and it's advocacy of peace, etc etc etc.

These fucking extremists are by no means exemplary of their people. Just because they're the only ones you hear about doesn't mean they're all like that. I don't remember the last time I heard a news story on the 11 o'clock news talking about peace-loving people who don't want to do anything but worship their god and do their thing without conflict. Something tells me it's just not a good story waiting to happen. Of course though, because all that's spoonfed to the masses is murder and mayhem, that's what the masses will think it's all about. That's what they're SUPPOSED to think. Justification is a bitch, isn't it?

Funny though if you think about it, the EXACT same thing is happening over there, and THEIR masses are being convinced that the Americans are horrible, bloodthirsty murderers too. Take a look at the other side of the coin. Wonder what kind of assumptions they're making about the Christians, eh?
I am talking about the extremists who murder in the name of god. They are over there killing INNOCENT people for religious reasons. That just doesn't happen here, and when it does, it is dealt with.


I know there are religious people who are extremist as in extreme worshipping but I am not talking about them. I am talking about martyrs, murderers, 11 year old kids taught how to kill anyone that poses their way of life and religious beliefs., 5 year olds holding ak-47's and people who rape their own people.
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I dunno christian/catholic people have done some pretty horrendous shit in the name of god as well.. (crusades...)

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Christians killed too,all the missionair shit,holy wars,blah,religion is something for retards

The US just should have stayed away from the Iraq not invade it with fake reasons.The americans kill iraqi people,iraquis kill americans that's the way it goes down there now and that all mustn't had happened.So think next time before you invade countries and cry when your own people get killed.

It's inevitable, a country invades, people on their own side end up dead. unavoidable, it's war right? But look at what is going on over there for hundreds of years, it's getting WORSE.. what next? What if these violent extremists get a hold of nuclear weapons in the future? This needs to be nipped. It's not just the present invasion that started the violence, it just never involved Americans until now. It's a mistake that it was allowed to happen for this long.
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I dunno christian/catholic people have done some pretty horrendous shit in the name of god as well.. (crusades...)

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Don't see it happening much anymore in modern religion except in places like Ireland.

I admit, Christians were wicked horrible, but it was nipped in the butt. Christians have evolved and grew brains for once realizing it's not worth killing over anymore. Not to mention there are grave consequences for these types of actions now. These were out forefathers. We cannot be held accountable for what our great great grandpa did.

For the most part, Christians are harmless.
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I am talking about the extremists who murder in the name of god. They are over there killing INNOCENT people for religious reasons. That just doesn't happen here, and when it does, it is dealt with.


I know there are religious people who are extremist as in extreme worshipping but I am not talking about them. I am talking about martyrs, murderers, 11 year old kids taught how to kill anyone that poses their way of life and religious beliefs., 5 year olds holding ak-47's and people who rape their own people.
Apparently you've never heard of the Crusades? Roman catholic priests can molest kids and that happens here. Religion turns it's righteous back on people who truly need help so that they can "help" people in a way that makes them look good. Apparently you also missed all the times that people during the world wars prayed to god to help their side win. Do you think he was picking sides? Just about every war that's ever taken place has been over one of two things.. Land, or God (whoever's gods may be at that time). The two often intermingle. And if you don't think this whole thing isn't about "god" on Bush's side, you're crazy.

You are getting to see the ugly side of humanity.. the world you're bringing your child into. The world where people on YOUR VERY STREET may be molesting children, beating their wives, or killing people over a crust of bread or a pair of shoes, maybe even doing so in the name of God. These people are fighting for what they believe in, and I definitely don't agree with them or their methods, but it's not a new thing. It's something that's been going on for the entire history of man, and is likely going to go on until humans are dust on the mantle of the earth. It's very easy to point fingers and say "They are horrible, they are evil, they are bad". They are not the only ones doing this disgusting shit. You should be in an uproar over the child soldiers of Sierra Leone, the mass murders and genocide in Rwanda, civil war all over Africa? I agree, what's going on in the middle east is SHITTY, but there are just as terrible, if not worse things going on for no reason better than a greedy dictator or a stream in the forest. Writing off the entire religion, and entire people based on only a few is just as wrong. And as I've already said, the uproar going on in the middle east has been going on for as long as people have populated that flyspeck in the world.

But to go and say this shit doesn't happen here? It might not happen the same way, but it happens EVERY SINGLE DAY, right in front of your face. In your town, in your country. Might as well face reality and acknowledge that right now. People say that animals are killers. Fuck that. ONLY humans kill purely for pleasure.
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Don't see it happening much anymore in modern religion except in places like Ireland.

I admit, Christians were wicked horrible, but it was nipped in the butt. Christians have evolved and grew brains for once realizing it's not worth killing over anymore. Not to mention there are grave consequences for these types of actions now. These were out forefathers. We cannot be held accountable for what our great great grandpa did.

For the most part, Christians are harmless.
Don't know many Christians, do you? We are currently getting fucked right over by a bunch of fucking "Christian" bitches who want to start some bullshit pregnancy shelter here. Those are the same Christian pieces of shit who said if the pregnant girls didn't "convert" they would be turned away. Such a CHRISTIAN attitude. Apparently you missed the part where Christianity = Hypocrasy.
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For the record, I do believe that the US should NOT have gone to Iraq in the first place, made a sensitive issue even worse by going there. But what's done is done, a lot was exposed to the general masses about what goes on over in places like Iraq and people are just starting to care about those places. We were never fully educated about countries outside our own, we are getting educated on them now though via the media, so what we see makes everything look worse, but there IS a problem over there that needs to be dealt with. These types of extremists thugs need to be eradicated immediately. Just because Christians have done the same in the past does not mean we as a society should not care about what Muslims do. Killing is wrong no matter who killed in the past. it needs to STOP.
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For the record, I do believe that the US should NOT have gone to Iraq in the first place, made a sensitive issue even worse by going there. But what's done is done, a lot was exposed to the general masses about what goes on over in places like Iraq and people are just starting to care about those places. We were never fully educated about countries outside our own, we are getting educated on them now though via the media, so what we see makes everything look worse, but there IS a problem over there that needs to be dealt with. These types of extremists thugs need to be eradicated immediately. Just because Christians have done the same in the past does not mean we as a society should not care about what Muslims do. Killing is wrong no matter who killed in the past. it needs to STOP.
Perhaps the US should take the first step to make it STOP. What's the Iraqi death toll since they got there? We stopped hearing about it a while ago. We do hear about the US death toll a lot. When did their people stop mattering? I was under the impression the US was there to help them. You'd think THEIR numbers would be important too.

I don't want to seem like I'm chapping your ass hon, I DO agree with you for the most part. But the reality is, it's not going to stop, or change, or get better.
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Don't know many Christians, do you? We are currently getting fucked right over by a bunch of fucking "Christian" bitches who want to start some bullshit pregnancy shelter here. Those are the same Christian pieces of shit who said if the pregnant girls didn't "convert" they would be turned away. Such a CHRISTIAN attitude. Apparently you missed the part where Christianity = Hypocrasy.

Yes I know that. But my point is. Do you see Christians walking around, kidnapping people, beheading them r flying plane sinto buildings, or murdering innocent reporters just doing their job? Every fuckignr eligion has it's horrific sides. Christians have evolved to just oppress.

We need to deal with and clean up terroristic pigs before dealing with pety things like Christians wanting girls to convert religions.
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It would be nice to see Canada get more pro active.. it'd also be nice to see us spend more on our military.
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Moron! Look at deaths in america. Are they Muslims who kill each other every day in America? No, there christain, catholic and some other trash...

Kill your own kind too, because 14,000 murders in America each year is a hell of a more than murders in the middle east.
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Perhaps the US should take the first step to make it STOP. What's the Iraqi death toll since they got there? We stopped hearing about it a while ago. We do hear about the US death toll a lot. When did their people stop mattering? I was under the impression the US was there to help them. You'd think THEIR numbers would be important too.

I don't want to seem like I'm chapping your ass hon, I DO agree with you for the most part. But the reality is, it's not going to stop, or change, or get better.

My whoel point with you is this.

Chrisians have done harsh things. Agreed. Is it still going on? Sure people in our own neighbourhoods murder, rape and molest, but is it 'for god' ? No, it's individual offenses. These extremist we are dealing with now are getting out of hand and it needs to be stopped and can be stopped. It's a sensitive situation but it can be rectified so they too can evolve into something as easy to deal with as modern christianity. These people have too many freedomes over there, and when they are controled, it's by terrorists. Go figure.


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I was under the impression the US was there to help them. You'd think THEIR numbers would be important too.

It's beyond help now. A sensitive situation was made worse and now its damage control time. I feel very deeply for the iraqi women and children. When i see pics or news footage of dead children it makes me CRY. This shit should not happen, but it does and it needs to be stopped EVERYWHERE,
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What if these violent extremists get a hold of nuclear weapons in the future?
It's like a bum could afford a ferrari Beside russia or china would get so pissed by the US and decide to give some nuclear stuff to terrorists,but no prob for me I don't like the US anyway
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My whoel point with you is this.

Chrisians have done harsh things. Agreed. Is it still going on?
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and it always will.

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"Police in Nigeria say clashes between Muslims and Christians over land have left at least 67 people dead. The deaths occurred after Christian Tarok militia attacked Muslim Fulanis in Yelwa town, in the country's central highlands, reports say."
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It would be nice to see Canada get more pro active.. it'd also be nice to see us spend more on our military.
it's happening. Martin was in Gagetown giving out tons of cash for military upgrades. I am truly ashamed at what has happened to our military. Last week I saw two military personels on break.. it was patehtic. tweedledy and tweedledum could not chose on what fucking sandwich to get nor could they walk without tripping.

hard to believe we used to have the world's most feared army long ago eh?

We really should have a stronger military, if not for the fight against terror but also, what happens if say China wants to invade the us. They will stomp us in the process. We could never help fight back along the side of our US neighbours with the way our military is now. We need to strengthen our muscles.
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"It's time we all waltzed in there and incinerated all that oppose world order."

That was Hitler's idea... didn't work out too well for him in the end.
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More people have died in the name of Christianity that all the wars put together.

Saying that all muslims are savages is the same thing as saying all Americans are heartless abusers. You've got over 1 Billion muslims worldwide. And 99.99 percent of them are peaceful and decent people. Don't let the actions of a few speak for the whole. This is what THEY want to provoke...pitting Islam vs. the rest of the world. And it's called a Jihad..
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Old 05-12-2004, 10:55 AM   #30
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Yes I know that. But my point is. Do you see Christians walking around, kidnapping people, beheading them r flying plane sinto buildings, or murdering innocent reporters just doing their job? Every fuckignr eligion has it's horrific sides. Christians have evolved to just oppress.

We need to deal with and clean up terroristic pigs before dealing with pety things like Christians wanting girls to convert religions.
It's so much bigger than that. Really, it is.
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More people have died in the name of Christianity that all the wars put together.

Saying that all muslims are savages is the same thing as saying all Americans are heartless abusers. You've got over 1 Billion muslims worldwide. And 99.99 percent of them are peaceful and decent people. Don't let the actions of a few speak for the whole. This is what THEY want to provoke...pitting Islam vs. the rest of the world. And it's called a Jihad..


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Old 05-12-2004, 10:57 AM   #32
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yes.

and it always will.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3681335.stm

"Police in Nigeria say clashes between Muslims and Christians over land have left at least 67 people dead. The deaths occurred after Christian Tarok militia attacked Muslim Fulanis in Yelwa town, in the country's central highlands, reports say."

Ok perfect example.

But answer me this.. do you see MODERN christians doing this? Does joe blow down the street who goes to church every sunday kill 67 people? You are using ethnic trash as an example. I guess I was also with my own points but I am not JUST attacking muslims, I am attacking all terror ridden religions. If christians in back asswards nigeria need to be ousted, so be it.

I agree with everyone's points. But comparing church goers and freaks who stick their nose up at people in need that happen to not be christian to people who MURDER, MAME, and BEHEAD innocent people is like comparing Juicy to someone who is actualy good looking.
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Ok perfect example.
Just to let you klnow, this is far as I read.

I dont want to debate this, you wanted proof, there it is.
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You people are incredible.

"Lets not do anything because christians can be just as bad" is the attitude i see in here. Do you or do you nto think the killings should be stopped? If so, get off teh fuckign fence people.

Extreme Christians will be dealt with, I am more worried about extreme muslims than christians at this point. You don't see christians fly a fucking plane into tall buildings do you?
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Just to let you klnow, this is far as I read.

I dont want to debate this, you wanted proof, there it is.

Doesn't matter. You are entitled to your opinion, and that's perfectly alright. Unlike religious freaks of any nature, I won't kill you and rape your mother over it
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Extreme Christians will be dealt with, I am more worried about extreme muslims than christians at this point. You don't see christians fly a fucking plane into tall buildings do you?
perfect example of why i wouldnt debate this with you, you dont care that 1000s of Negroes in ******ia are being killed by Christian Militia, but woah is me in the name of freedom lets kill Iraqis for revenge on Sept 11th, hello, Iraq had nothing to do with Sept 11th nor did all the Muslims in the world, some did, but not all.

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perfect example of why i wouldnt debate this with you, you dont care that 1000s of Negroes in ******ia are being killed by Christian Militia, but woah is me in the name of freedom lets kill Iraqis for revenge on Sept 11th, hello, Iraq had nothing to do with Sept 11th nor did all the Muslims in the world, some did, but not all.

I am not educated on the Nigerian situation. SOrry

I never said kill all muslims and kill iraq for sept11.

I am saying that terrorist need to be dealt with and cleaned out. I just happened to use the muslim terrorists as an example. If the Christian problems in Nigeria are as bad as you say, then they need to be stopped and dealt with as well.

But who am I to hate muslim terrorists.
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