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sean416 05-12-2004 05:55 PM
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/edit and this was my 500th post! lol

crowkid 05-12-2004 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by seven
and so vice versa.. suicide bombers Israel brought it on themselves :Graucho


Uhm no, last time I checked Israel is only free nation in the middle east, surrounded by monsters on every corner..Islam teaches muslims to resent and kill the Jews, and take over Jerusalem... So if the little animals (excuse me Palestinians) wouldn't have started their Intifada in 2000 to push to eliminate Israel, they wouldn't be staring down the barrel of a 50mm round by Israeli tanks....

my opinion Israel isn't tough enough with these guys... :-p

silent moan 05-12-2004 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by iFliPcEss
so what if the soldier isnt american? it doesn't matter if the victim is american or not the thing is they have no right to do such hannibalistic act to anyone, american or not

yeah you're right! ecery individual need to be treaten in humanitarian way

sean416 05-12-2004 06:01 PM
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Originally posted by crowkid
Uhm no, last time I checked Israel is only free nation in the middle east, surrounded by monsters on every corner..Islam teaches muslims to resent and kill the Jews, and take over Jerusalem... So if the little animals (excuse me Palestinians) wouldn't have started their Intifada in 2000 to push to eliminate Israel, they wouldn't be staring down the barrel of a 50mm round by Israeli tanks....

my opinion Israel isn't tough enough with these guys... :-p
you obviously dont understand the history of either Islam or Palestine/Israel. But may I ask you this, please provide us with any scripture from the koran that says Muslims are suppose to kill jews? thanks.

KRL 05-12-2004 06:23 PM
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Originally posted by alexg
You're a dumbass

Israel has it's own (leading on a world level) military indistry, and it's own established economy. The United States is a dear friend of Israel but it does not make Israel a US colony.

Also, your comment about me being lucky to have the US back my side is utterly stupid. It's not by luck that the US supports Israel. It is because Israel has many investments in the US and vise versa. Israel and the United States are so involved in each other's economy, politics, social life that the situation of the US supporting Israel can never change. It will always remain this way.
If the US will not support Israel, it would be as if the US threw a nuclear bomb on Canada. something that is completely impossible, and unlogical, therefore, there is no point whatsoever in your comment.

Should the Canadians feel lucky that the United States don't throw a nuclear bomb on them?
Alex I support Israel, but you're stretching things a bit here. Without the backing the US has given Israel monetarily, militarily and politically, over the past 40+ years Israel would be in serious deep shit.

The US provides Israel about $13 Billion annually in direct and indirect aid. Over a Billion each month of US taxpayer money goes to support your country.

Israel usually posts sizable current account deficits, which are covered by these large transfer payments from abroad and by foreign loans. Roughly half of Israel's external debt is owed to the US, which is its major source of economic and military aid.

alexg 05-13-2004 03:09 AM
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Originally posted by seven
Awh that's what you call "Russian backing Israel"? LOL. Hey you know Russia and U.S. agreed on many other issues to under UN I guess then U.S and Russia must've been best friends too? Nawh! There was no such thing as cold war at all either. I tell you once again, please quit speaking non-sense.

On February 4, 1970, Nixon proposed to Chairman Kosygin that the United States and the Soviet Union discuss the question of limiting the arms which the two countries provide to the Middle East. The Soviets rejected this proposal as they had done similar proposals in the past.

On March 23 Secretary Rogers announced that they would hold in abeyance a decision on Israel's request for additional aircraft, pointing out that: "Restraint will be required on the part of other major suppliers to the Middle East. No nation can pursue a policy of seeking unilateral advantage in the area if peace is to be achieved."

The Soviet Union responded by stepping up the shipment of air- defense missiles and aircraft, manned by Soviet combat crews, to Egypt-the first time that Soviet combat crews have been moved to a nation outside the Communist orbit.

February 4 letter to Chairman Kosygin from Nixon he made clear that the United States would not hesitate to provide arms to Israel if they were required in order to maintain that balance. On July 31 Nixon said publicly:

It is an integral part of our cease-fire proposal that neither side is to use the cease-fire period to improve its military position in the area of the cease-fire lines. All would have to refrain from... undertaking a military buildup of any kind in such an area.

The Soviet Union's disregard for this essential foundation for peace talks raised serious doubts about its readiness to cooperate in the effort to achieve peace. Against this background, the United States had no choice but to take further steps to help maintain the military balance.

The Soviets have persistently called for an Israeli commitment to total withdrawal from all occupied territories. The Soviets have also called for a refugee settlement which inadequately reflects the practical human and security problems involved on both sides.

The United States has recognized that any changes in prewar borders should be insubstantial, but we insist that any agreement to fix final borders must be directly linked in a peace agreement to mutually agreed practical arrangements that would make these secure. These are matters for negotiation between the parties. The Soviets have insisted, however, that the major powers make these judgments and, in effect, impose them on the parties.
So you think the only reason why the US was always backing Israel is because Russian was backing arabs?

seven 05-13-2004 06:24 AM
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Originally posted by alexg
So you think the only reason why the US was always backing Israel is because Russian was backing arabs?
Nawh.. I think Israeli women must've been giving U.S. presidents some good blowjobs.. yumyum sucky sucky! lol.

If the super powers weren't playing games using mideeast as pawns back then, if they weren't competing in weapons sales to mideast perhaps mideast would be a better place today with Israel gone/shrunk down and behaving. Now U.S. still needs Israel in order to keep a stronghold in mideast and ofcourse even thou Soviet is gone Russia is still there and so are their weapons therefore U.S. needs its colony in Israel and so this will go on for much longer.


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