Bush has fucked up

[Buff]

The buck stops at the top, with Bush. This situation is yet another manifestation of the abject lack of preparation by the administration. When Bush allowed a former Hussein general to take command of a legal militia and replace the marines around Fallujah, that was an absolutely incompetent decision. I wonder what the average Iraqi who was actually glad to have Hussein deposed thought when he saw us place that thug in power (over armed troops, no less)... I'm sure he thought to himself .oO (Well, I see who's going to be back in power once the Americans leave). Absolute insanity.

This war has been dicked up from the get go.


1. First Bush gave about a 1 year advance notice that we were going to go in -- sure, he went through the UN formalities, but we all knew what was coming. A full year or more for Hussein to plan and prepare -- and it's obvious he learned from the previous war.

2. Then we didn't put enough troops in country.

3. Then we allowed units to dissolve and mix back into the civilian populations during the conflict.

4. Then we allowed the Arab world to perpetuate the myth of "The Holy City" or "The Holy Place" -- what the fuck is a holy city? How can Fallujah be a holy city but not New Fucking York? And how holy a building can a mosque be if the arabs can launch an attack from it and cry "sanctuary?" If they aren't treating it as holy, why should we?

5. Then we allowed Al-Jazeera to continue spewing propaganda and covering the war from its one side -- anti-American. For instance, in all of the terrorist bombing attacks in Iraq, not ONCE did Al Jazeera show a picture of dead kids or even mention that any kids were killed (by the arab terrorists) -- yet their broadcasts and webpages are filled with every single child's death caused by the Americans. You have to shut down that kind of propaganda.

6. Now we've got an overabundance of untrained reservists and national guardspeople, including way too many females, pulling important assignments.


My only argument against this war before it was launched was my concern that strategy, objectives, and means would be dictated by politicians and political generals instead of warriors, and that such a situation, just as in Vietnam, would be the worse case scenario; unfortunately, it has to come to pass.

Now there is no possible exit strategy which will guarantee our objectives -- some are better than others and still have an outside shot, but I am not optimistic.

And throw in the fact that when the Iraqi pipelines are not being sabotagued, we're discovering that the wells have been dicked up to an incredible extent, just as in the former USSR, and that there's massive water seepage i.e. we overestimated Iraqi production capacities.

It's bad and it's only going to get worse.

[Mr. Marks]

Are you like the bear version of Ann Coulter, now?

[Buff]

Originally posted by papichulo
Are you like the bear version of Ann Coulter, now?

Do you disagree with something I wrote?

[born4porn]

bush is an insult to anyone who is smart enough to wipe their own ass!

[RicardoB]

Bush had no business there in the first place.

No WMD's no fucking reason. That was the mother fuck up of em all.

[EviLGuY]

Originally posted by papichulo
Are you like the bear version of Ann Coulter, now?

[junction]

Buff, icq me 135378892

[James White]

Well written bud. Kudos

[Babel]

Originally posted by Buff
The buck stops at the top, with Bush. This situation is yet another manifestation of the abject lack of preparation by the administration. When Bush allowed a former Hussein general to take command of a legal militia and replace the marines around Fallujah, that was an absolutely incompetent decision. I wonder what the average Iraqi who was actually glad to have Hussein deposed thought when he saw us place that thug in power (over armed troops, no less)... I'm sure he thought to himself .oO (Well, I see who's going to be back in power once the Americans leave). Absolute insanity.

This war has been dicked up from the get go.


1. First Bush gave about a 1 year advance notice that we were going to go in -- sure, he went through the UN formalities, but we all knew what was coming. A full year or more for Hussein to plan and prepare -- and it's obvious he learned from the previous war.

2. Then we didn't put enough troops in country.

3. Then we allowed units to dissolve and mix back into the civilian populations during the conflict.

4. Then we allowed the Arab world to perpetuate the myth of "The Holy City" or "The Holy Place" -- what the fuck is a holy city? How can Fallujah be a holy city but not New Fucking York? And how holy a building can a mosque be if the arabs can launch an attack from it and cry "sanctuary?" If they aren't treating it as holy, why should we?

5. Then we allowed Al-Jazeera to continue spewing propaganda and covering the war from its one side -- anti-American. For instance, in all of the terrorist bombing attacks in Iraq, not ONCE did Al Jazeera show a picture of dead kids or even mention that any kids were killed (by the arab terrorists) -- yet their broadcasts and webpages are filled with every single child's death caused by the Americans. You have to shut down that kind of propaganda.

6. Now we've got an overabundance of untrained reservists and national guardspeople, including way too many females, pulling important assignments.


My only argument against this war before it was launched was my concern that strategy, objectives, and means would be dictated by politicians and political generals instead of warriors, and that such a situation, just as in Vietnam, would be the worse case scenario; unfortunately, it has to come to pass.

Now there is no possible exit strategy which will guarantee our objectives -- some are better than others and still have an outside shot, but I am not optimistic.

And throw in the fact that when the Iraqi pipelines are not being sabotagued, we're discovering that the wells have been dicked up to an incredible extent, just as in the former USSR, and that there's massive water seepage i.e. we overestimated Iraqi production capacities.

It's bad and it's only going to get worse.

Yawn

[samuel]

Originally posted by RicardoB
Bush had no business there in the first place.

No WMD's no fucking reason. That was the mother fuck up of em all.

Get out of anywhere Bush!!

Samuel

[painintheass]

Originally posted by Buff
The buck stops at the top, with Bush. This situation is yet another manifestation of the abject lack of preparation by the administration. When Bush allowed a former Hussein general to take command of a legal militia and replace the marines around Fallujah, that was an absolutely incompetent decision. I wonder what the average Iraqi who was actually glad to have Hussein deposed thought when he saw us place that thug in power (over armed troops, no less)... I'm sure he thought to himself .oO (Well, I see who's going to be back in power once the Americans leave). Absolute insanity.

This war has been dicked up from the get go.


1. First Bush gave about a 1 year advance notice that we were going to go in -- sure, he went through the UN formalities, but we all knew what was coming. A full year or more for Hussein to plan and prepare -- and it's obvious he learned from the previous war.

2. Then we didn't put enough troops in country.

3. Then we allowed units to dissolve and mix back into the civilian populations during the conflict.

4. Then we allowed the Arab world to perpetuate the myth of "The Holy City" or "The Holy Place" -- what the fuck is a holy city? How can Fallujah be a holy city but not New Fucking York? And how holy a building can a mosque be if the arabs can launch an attack from it and cry "sanctuary?" If they aren't treating it as holy, why should we?

5. Then we allowed Al-Jazeera to continue spewing propaganda and covering the war from its one side -- anti-American. For instance, in all of the terrorist bombing attacks in Iraq, not ONCE did Al Jazeera show a picture of dead kids or even mention that any kids were killed (by the arab terrorists) -- yet their broadcasts and webpages are filled with every single child's death caused by the Americans. You have to shut down that kind of propaganda.

6. Now we've got an overabundance of untrained reservists and national guardspeople, including way too many females, pulling important assignments.


My only argument against this war before it was launched was my concern that strategy, objectives, and means would be dictated by politicians and political generals instead of warriors, and that such a situation, just as in Vietnam, would be the worse case scenario; unfortunately, it has to come to pass.

Now there is no possible exit strategy which will guarantee our objectives -- some are better than others and still have an outside shot, but I am not optimistic.

And throw in the fact that when the Iraqi pipelines are not being sabotagued, we're discovering that the wells have been dicked up to an incredible extent, just as in the former USSR, and that there's massive water seepage i.e. we overestimated Iraqi production capacities.

It's bad and it's only going to get worse.

.

2 all beef paties, special sauce cheese lettuce and onions on a seasame seed bun


Hey Ronald Mc American, have it your way. Georgie the burger king at the drive up whitehouse is solely to blame.

Heaven forbid that the customers who purchase his crap and support his fast food franchise share any of the blame.


Just like the people of the United States, in the end you sue McDonalds for getting obeese.

You want to salavage the American world image. Take some responsiblity, organize protests, talk to lawyers and get as many people together as possiable and remove the clown from his throne. Otherwise you are just another Jack in the Box in clown costume.

Pain in the ass.

[KRL]

We all expected way too much from day 1 of this administration.

[jimmyf]

Originally posted by Babel
Yawn

Yep

[roscoe98]

I just hope he gets ousted!

[<IMX>]

I agree with most of what you say, so don't take this critique the wrong way.

We can't "shut down that [al-jez] of propaganda," democracy is about choice, not about censorship.

The Bush administration needs to pull up their political skirt and start wheeling and dealing to get better credibility and coverage.

The international community is going to complain regardless of what we do, so we need to act in the long-term.

The fucking EU is basically trying to form their new empire of babel identity on the back of critizing the U.S. lol.

Not only did we save their ass three times (germany, germany, soviets), we rebuilt them.

Yet when it comes to undoing the mess they made with their former colonies, all they can do is critique our solution and over zero dollars.

right on buff.

Originally posted by Buff
The buck stops at the top, with Bush. This situation is yet another manifestation of the abject lack of preparation by the administration. When Bush allowed a former Hussein general to take command of a legal militia and replace the marines around Fallujah, that was an absolutely incompetent decision. I wonder what the average Iraqi who was actually glad to have Hussein deposed thought when he saw us place that thug in power (over armed troops, no less)... I'm sure he thought to himself .oO (Well, I see who's going to be back in power once the Americans leave). Absolute insanity.

This war has been dicked up from the get go.


1. First Bush gave about a 1 year advance notice that we were going to go in -- sure, he went through the UN formalities, but we all knew what was coming. A full year or more for Hussein to plan and prepare -- and it's obvious he learned from the previous war.

2. Then we didn't put enough troops in country.

3. Then we allowed units to dissolve and mix back into the civilian populations during the conflict.

4. Then we allowed the Arab world to perpetuate the myth of "The Holy City" or "The Holy Place" -- what the fuck is a holy city? How can Fallujah be a holy city but not New Fucking York? And how holy a building can a mosque be if the arabs can launch an attack from it and cry "sanctuary?" If they aren't treating it as holy, why should we?

5. Then we allowed Al-Jazeera to continue spewing propaganda and covering the war from its one side -- anti-American. For instance, in all of the terrorist bombing attacks in Iraq, not ONCE did Al Jazeera show a picture of dead kids or even mention that any kids were killed (by the arab terrorists) -- yet their broadcasts and webpages are filled with every single child's death caused by the Americans. You have to shut down that kind of propaganda.

6. Now we've got an overabundance of untrained reservists and national guardspeople, including way too many females, pulling important assignments.


My only argument against this war before it was launched was my concern that strategy, objectives, and means would be dictated by politicians and political generals instead of warriors, and that such a situation, just as in Vietnam, would be the worse case scenario; unfortunately, it has to come to pass.

Now there is no possible exit strategy which will guarantee our objectives -- some are better than others and still have an outside shot, but I am not optimistic.

And throw in the fact that when the Iraqi pipelines are not being sabotagued, we're discovering that the wells have been dicked up to an incredible extent, just as in the former USSR, and that there's massive water seepage i.e. we overestimated Iraqi production capacities.

It's bad and it's only going to get worse.

[Buff]

Originally posted by junction
Buff, icq me 135378892

No ICQ on this comp. Got AIM or Yahoo?

[stev0]

Originally posted by RicardoB
Bush had no business there in the first place.

No WMD's no fucking reason. That was the mother fuck up of em all.

Yup, Iraq was better off with Saddam in power...

[stev0]

Originally posted by <IMX>


Not only did we save their ass three times (germany, germany, soviets), we rebuilt them.

"Participating" in a war doesnt mean "saving their ass" ... I assume you're talking about WW1 and WW2 (germany). The US played a very small role in WW1, they didn't even enter until it was just about over.. and even in WW2 the Europian superpowers did a hell of alot more to defend the free world.

[Buff]

Originally posted by stev0
"Participating" in a war doesnt mean "saving their ass" ... I assume you're talking about WW1 and WW2 (germany). The US played a very small role in WW1, they didn't even enter until it was just about over.. and even in WW2 the Europian superpowers did a hell of alot more to defend the free world.

In WWII, Europe was beaten with the exception of England, who had NO offensive campaign going whatsoever. Germany owned the continent and was running wild over North Africa.

Then the US showed up and kicked their teeth in. Oh, and we pretty much single-handedly crushed the Japs too, so shut the fuck up, you ignorant fuckhead.

[adultwebware]

It would be enough to look at his early age photo when he was in the US army to understand what kind of person he is.

[Joe Citizen]

Originally posted by Buff
In WWII, Europe was beaten with the exception of England, who had NO offensive campaign going whatsoever. Germany owned the continent and was running wild over North Africa.

Then the US showed up and kicked their teeth in. Oh, and we pretty much single-handedly crushed the Japs too, so shut the fuck up, you ignorant fuckhead.

It is truly astonishing that you could try and summarize WW2 without mentioning the Russians.

The Russians lost 13,500,000 troops and 7,700,000 civilians.

The USA didn't even break 500,000 dead, and that includes the war in the Pacific.

So in summary, you're an ignorant fucking idiot. But we already knew that didn't we Buffy?

[Buff]

Originally posted by Joe Citizen
It is truly astonishing that you could try and summarize WW2 without mentioning the Russians.

The Russians lost 13,500,000 troops and 7,700,000 civilians.

The USA didn't even break 500,000 dead, and that includes the war in the Pacific.

So in summary, you're an ignorant fucking idiot. But we already knew that didn't we Buffy?

Hey retard:

He brought up Europe, not the Eastern Front. This wasn't a discussion of that part of WWII, but rather a discussion of whether the European powers or the United States kicked Gernamy's ass.

Eat a dick you ignorant assclown.

[Jakke PNG]

Originally posted by Buff
Hey retard:

He brought up Europe, not the Eastern Front. This wasn't a discussion of that part of WWII, but rather a discussion of whether the European powers or the United States kicked Gernamy's ass.

Eat a dick you ignorant assclown.

That means US reached berlin first then and liberated europe? since russia fighted the eastern front, not western where berlin is located at.

also, I disagree with your #5 in the first post. CNN is not objective either. They have Al-Jazeera propaganda and you have CNN propaganda. No difference in them.

[Buff]

Originally posted by TeenGodFather
That means US reached berlin first then and liberated europe? since russia fighted the eastern front, not western where berlin is located at.

also, I disagree with your #5 in the first post. CNN is not objective either. They have Al-Jazeera propaganda and you have CNN propaganda. No difference in them.

The US kicked the Germans out of Sicily. Then they kicked the Germans out of France and Belgium. Then they sandwiched the Germans in Berlin with the Russians.

And CNN is on Al-Jazeera's side.

[Goose]

Bush and monkey...two related

[webmaster x]

He fucks up all the time!