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DeanCapture · 05-10-2004, 10:17 AM

Someone explain to me how this video can be 'legally' released to the public without Paris's consent?

If the company releasing the video does not have model IDs and a model release, how can they legally distibute this tape?

Corleone · 05-10-2004, 10:19 AM

no clue... normally every human has the right on his own pics & sounds... you can't film somebody and make cash with him...

pornstar2pac · 05-10-2004, 10:19 AM

It's better that you don't understand and just go with it....

DeanCapture · 05-10-2004, 10:20 AM

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Originally posted by Corleone
no clue... normally every human has the right on his own pics & sounds... you can't film somebody and make cash with him...

Well that's what I thought. As a content producer, I am required by law to have copies of the models IDs and a signed model release. How can this be required by me and not the company that's marketing, selling and distributing this tape?

DeanCapture · 05-10-2004, 10:21 AM

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Originally posted by pornstar2pac
It's better that you don't understand and just go with it....

That's a good answer - thanks for wasting my time

pornstar2pac · 05-10-2004, 10:28 AM

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Originally posted by DeanCapture
That's a good answer - thanks for wasting my time

thank me for the views

stev0 · 05-10-2004, 10:29 AM

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Originally posted by Corleone
no clue... normally every human has the right on his own pics & sounds... you can't film somebody and make cash with him...

Not if it's in public

Corleone · 05-10-2004, 10:29 AM

bump coz i'd like to know

i sued somebody for putting a pic of me on his server.. and he had to put it down...

so every third class lawyer should be able to forbid the paris hilton video :-/

mind · 05-10-2004, 10:30 AM

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Originally posted by Corleone
no clue... normally every human has the right on his own pics & sounds... you can't film somebody and make cash with him...

so nobody can sell the sound of my fart without getting my permission? cool

TheFrog · 05-10-2004, 10:30 AM

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Originally posted by mind
so nobody can sell the sound of my fart without getting my permission? cool

Corleone · 05-10-2004, 10:35 AM

i cant go out with my cam , film some girls and add them to my sluts of the week list.. they could request that i delete the pics from my servers

cherrylula · 05-10-2004, 10:38 AM

Yeah it does makes you wonder.

Fletch XXX · 05-10-2004, 10:41 AM

because criminals and shady people do shady and criminal things to make money.

pretty simple.

doober · 05-10-2004, 10:47 AM

youd think that Paris Hilton has enough money to reach any of these dumbasses selling the video and have them tied up in court for years in litigation.

I guess not ey?

DeanCapture · 05-10-2004, 10:47 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
because criminals and shady people do shady and criminal things to make money.

pretty simple.

Yes - this is true

pornstar2pac · 05-10-2004, 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
because criminals and shady people do shady and criminal things to make money.

pretty simple.

what does that have to do with this topic?

Kimmykim · 05-10-2004, 10:49 AM

Um, my bet is that the releases are in order and everyone's purses are fattened.

SetTheWorldonFire · 05-10-2004, 10:50 AM

I think it's because whe was the one that wanted to be filmed.

I believe both of them the right to the tape equally.

Fletch XXX · 05-10-2004, 10:51 AM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim
Um, my bet is that the releases are in order and everyone's purses are fattened.

Do you REALLY think Paris needs money from an amateur porn shoot?

The most important article of evidence in here is, where is the MODEL RELEASE?

You cant release movies without them, regardless of how fat Solomans pocket is, i HIGHLY DOUBT Paris Hilton is getting money from this and would ALLOW such a hardcore flick of her to be released like this.

Hey I could be wrong, i just dont see her needing the few million this is gonna make, which we all know MOST will go to the producers.

DeanCapture · 05-10-2004, 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim
Um, my bet is that the releases are in order and everyone's purses are fattened.

Hmmmm - interesting

lurking · 05-10-2004, 10:53 AM

fletch, I think it's more about the fame than the fortune. you do know they have a "the simple life 2" coming on FOX?

Webasic · 05-10-2004, 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by DeanCapture
That's a good answer - thanks for wasting my time

He seems to be quite good at it.

cherrylula · 05-10-2004, 10:55 AM

But doesn't Paris have a pending lawsuit against Rick whats his name?

pornstar2pac · 05-10-2004, 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by cherrylula
But doesn't Paris have a pending lawsuit against Rick whats his name?

stoner

Reak · 05-10-2004, 10:59 AM

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stoner

stoners are cool

DreamCumTrue · 05-10-2004, 11:01 AM

Ive never understood it either. I guess they have to catch the people selling it and have proof.

DarkJedi · 05-10-2004, 11:08 AM

they have Rick's model release

pornstar2pac · 05-10-2004, 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by DarkJedi
they have Rick's model release

yeah, his jizz all over her tits while she stroking him should be the ok sign

chAos · 05-10-2004, 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Do you REALLY think Paris needs money from an amateur porn shoot?

The most important article of evidence in here is, where is the MODEL RELEASE?

You cant release movies without them, regardless of how fat Solomans pocket is, i HIGHLY DOUBT Paris Hilton is getting money from this and would ALLOW such a hardcore flick of her to be released like this.

Hey I could be wrong, i just dont see her needing the few million this is gonna make, which we all know MOST will go to the producers.

I was thinking the same Fletch but to tell you the truth i think her ego to be a public star is bigger than what she needs her pocket book to be ... interesting how there is a second season of the shitty ass show "simple life" airing on fox this summer so close to the release of this video ...

She is prolly no different that the attention starved sluts on Hollywood and Vine that are willing to do anything for fame not for money ...

just my opinion

Fletch XXX · 05-10-2004, 11:22 AM

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Originally posted by chAos
I was thinking the same Fletch but to tell you the truth i think her ego to be a public star is bigger than what she needs her pocket book to be ... interesting how there is a second season of the shitty ass show "simple life" airing on fox this summer so close to the release of this video ...

She is prolly no different that the attention starved sluts on Hollywood and Vine that are willing to do anything for fame not for money ...

just my opinion

This is why in my post I said, "Hey I could be wrong."

Im never afraid to admit that fact.

I just dont see this as the same as Pam and Tommy, its very different in my opinion.

Why would she be suing him and allowing the release? Publicity only?

Thats somewhat of a reach, but again "Hey, I could be Wrong!"

;)

wtfent · 05-10-2004, 11:35 AM

Ok, the answer you all have been waiting for.

I think this is all a conspiracy and they meant for it to turn out this way but here is how it went down. Its all about loop holes. Some dude got a hold of the video and started making money off of it, Rick was pissed he wasnt making any money off the video so he went in search to find someone dumb enough to licsense him the footage for a couple grand. Even though the guy that sold him the footage did not have legal rights to the footage, he gave legal rights to Rick by signing a release. So now if anybody gets fucked, its the guy that sold Rick the footage, after all Rick is not doing anything wrong. It gets tricker, the guy that sold the video turned out to be only 17 but Rick was told he was 18. Now they cant get Rick or the kid that sold the tape.

asuna · 05-10-2004, 11:38 AM

SykkBoy · 05-10-2004, 11:44 AM

Maybe it's because she's a public figure and it's considered nesworthy..I dunno, but I'm sure the folks over at Redlight have paid their lawyers lots of money to ensure minimal damages...

just too bad Atherton made all the REAL money from Paris Hilton...

llabtaem · 05-10-2004, 12:54 PM

The guy in the video taped it. She knew she was being taped. She did not object to it at the time of filming. Maybe this is a case of it being HER fault for not signing legal hahahahahahahahas stating that no one was to make $$$ off of it or show it publically.

People make money off of people ALL the the time without age release forms. Can you say Girls Gone Wild? It is different in their situation, but all the same. Things done in public can be filmed and rebroadcast even for a fee. If this guy filmed Paris and she knew about it and let him keep the tape, I say it's her fault and has very little recourse.

If I fuck and film a willing woman over the age of 18 and choose to show my friends, there is nothing illegal about it. If I set up shop and charge them $10.00 to see it, why would I need records of her age if I KNOW that she is 18+ for sure? What is going to happen? Some fed is going to knock on my door and want proof? Look up her drivers license with your search warrantes asshole. Come back and see me when you ACTUALLY have something. Kiss and tell isn't against the law as far as I know. These are just thoughts, I am no way trying to state that these are facts. Just my $.02

With the money to be made (or has been made for that matter) it is probably worth a small legal battle that Solomon will most likely win.

Thoughts?

Brujah · 05-10-2004, 03:55 PM

She's a producer.

jimmyf · 05-10-2004, 04:07 PM

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Originally posted by Brujah
She's a producer.

Director I think,

pornstar2pac · 05-10-2004, 04:09 PM

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Originally posted by jimmyf
Director I think,

fluffer

Steen2 · 05-10-2004, 04:20 PM

I wonder what daddy (Hilton) thinks.

TheGoldenChild · 05-10-2004, 04:23 PM

Lot's of great conspiracy theories....only one true story.
Rick has the rights.

Chicago webmasters I just confirmed for the Mancow Show I'll keep you posted before I go on.

Sykk-

Atherton made money by bilking consumers into thinking they'd actually see the video- he never had one.
Also you are going to tell me that more people go online to view porn than consumers with VCR's and DVD player's?

Simply not the case bro- There are more people in the entire world that own a VCR than a a credit card, or a computer. That's a fact.

This tape is also NOT the xray vision tape- Most everyone has not seen this

I'd bet less than 1% of the worl'd population even saw the first tape online.

maxdaname · 05-10-2004, 04:24 PM

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Originally posted by Steen2
I wonder what daddy (Hilton) thinks.

Isn't he dead!?

benc · 05-10-2004, 04:26 PM

I think pretty much everyone has seen it. It was even posted here, the color part too.

Personally, I think Paris allowed it to come out for the publicity. I could just imagine the conversation with her father.

Father: I'm gonna sue the living shit out of this low life Saloman cocksucker

Paris: No daddy, this publicity will be good for my shitty reality show. Now dont say another word or im gonna cry

Father: ok dear

pornstar2pac · 05-10-2004, 04:27 PM

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Originally posted by kBizzle
Lot's of great conspiracy theories....only one true story.
Rick has the rights.

Chicago webmasters I just confirmed for the Mancow Show I'll keep you posted before I go on.

Sykk-

Atherton made money by bilking consumers into thinking they'd actually see the video- he never had one.
Also you are going to tell me that more people go online to view porn than consumers with VCR's and DVD player's?

Simply not the case bro- There are more people in the entire world that own a VCR than a a credit card, or a computer. That's a fact.

This tape is also NOT the xray vision tape- Most everyone has not seen this

I'd bet less than 1% of the worl'd population even saw the first tape online.

that's right KB, I'm buying 35 DVD sets just for friends and loved ones for Christmas. I will give a few out to my non adult industry friends the day it comes out.

CuriousToyBoy2 · 05-10-2004, 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by Corleone
bump coz i'd like to know
i sued somebody for putting a pic of me on his server.. and he had to put it down...
so every third class lawyer should be able to forbid the paris hilton video :-/

Ain't that cut and dried.

She has NOT sued anyone personally to stop it. Not even "Rick the Dick".

Given he sued for libel/slander when she originally claimed she was underage, he has a MASSIVE countersuit in the wings if she goes back on that and tries to actually say it was her consentually and have it stopped on other grounds.

Methinks that Ms Hilton has a little bit more to lose in those stakes than Mr Soloman.

And given the "damage" has already been done, maybe she just wants the continued publicity.....

hottoddy · 05-10-2004, 04:29 PM

It's a gray area that relates to reasonable expectations of privacy. Plus, you have some consent - one of the two parties is behind the actual release (unlike Pam & Tommy, Vince and Janine, etc). If you casually fuck people in hotel rooms and video tape it, there's probably not a reasonable expectation that the tape will remain forever private. Paris probably could have tied it up in court with an injunction though, and it makes you wonder why she didn't. But once the Genie is out of the bottle there isn't much point.

My guess is she's still going to sue Soloman for big bucks down the line (all profit damages, punitives, etc). These damages will be easier to prove once she subpoenas all his business records.

maxdaname · 05-10-2004, 04:29 PM

But of course she did it for the publicity, before the tape, nobody knew or gave a fuck about her!

Brujah · 05-10-2004, 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by kBizzle
Lot's of great conspiracy theories....only one true story.
Rick has the rights.

Didn't you say the same thing about SexBrat ? It's easy to repeat what someone else says. Doesn't make it 100% true. Besides, the conspiracy theories are much more fun to talk about.

At least he got smart and partnered with someone ( Xpays ) this time instead of trying to do it himself the way it was handled at first.

abyss_al · 05-10-2004, 04:55 PM

stars are like the president... it's public domain

RicardoB · 05-10-2004, 04:58 PM

I'm betting she is "formally"prostesting but in reality enjoying the attention.

TheSwed · 05-10-2004, 05:21 PM

pornstar2pac · 05-10-2004, 05:27 PM

I don't care if I have to go down to tj mexico to buy it. I'm gonna buy it just for this still

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05-10-2004, 10:17 AM	#1
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wtfent Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Diego, Cali. baby!!! Posts: 3,790	Ok, the answer you all have been waiting for. I think this is all a conspiracy and they meant for it to turn out this way but here is how it went down. Its all about loop holes. Some dude got a hold of the video and started making money off of it, Rick was pissed he wasnt making any money off the video so he went in search to find someone dumb enough to licsense him the footage for a couple grand. Even though the guy that sold him the footage did not have legal rights to the footage, he gave legal rights to Rick by signing a release. So now if anybody gets fucked, its the guy that sold Rick the footage, after all Rick is not doing anything wrong. It gets tricker, the guy that sold the video turned out to be only 17 but Rick was told he was 18. Now they cant get Rick or the kid that sold the tape. __________________ ThisWillShockYou.com DVD Store - TWSY UNCENSORED ICQ# 194020367 E-mail: shockingbucks(AT)gmail.com Promote something different!! Shocking Bucks

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Corleone C.R.E.A.M Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,262	no clue... normally every human has the right on his own pics & sounds... you can't film somebody and make cash with him...

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Corleone C.R.E.A.M Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,262	bump coz i'd like to know i sued somebody for putting a pic of me on his server.. and he had to put it down... so every third class lawyer should be able to forbid the paris hilton video :-/

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Corleone C.R.E.A.M Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,262	i cant go out with my cam , film some girls and add them to my sluts of the week list.. they could request that i delete the pics from my servers

05-10-2004, 10:38 AM	#12
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	Yeah it does makes you wonder.

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doober Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: in yoOoo kitchen Posts: 6,984	youd think that Paris Hilton has enough money to reach any of these dumbasses selling the video and have them tied up in court for years in litigation. I guess not ey?

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Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Um, my bet is that the releases are in order and everyone's purses are fattened.

05-10-2004, 10:53 AM	#21
lurking Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 868	fletch, I think it's more about the fame than the fortune. you do know they have a "the simple life 2" coming on FOX?

05-10-2004, 10:55 AM	#23
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	But doesn't Paris have a pending lawsuit against Rick whats his name?

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DreamCumTrue Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 2,985	Ive never understood it either. I guess they have to catch the people selling it and have proof.

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SykkBoy Jesus loves bacon Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sin City, Motherfucker Posts: 19,969	Maybe it's because she's a public figure and it's considered nesworthy..I dunno, but I'm sure the folks over at Redlight have paid their lawyers lots of money to ensure minimal damages... just too bad Atherton made all the REAL money from Paris Hilton... __________________ Support my new movie “The Second Coming”

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llabtaem Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 969	The guy in the video taped it. She knew she was being taped. She did not object to it at the time of filming. Maybe this is a case of it being HER fault for not signing legal hahahahahahahahas stating that no one was to make $$$ off of it or show it publically. People make money off of people ALL the the time without age release forms. Can you say Girls Gone Wild? It is different in their situation, but all the same. Things done in public can be filmed and rebroadcast even for a fee. If this guy filmed Paris and she knew about it and let him keep the tape, I say it's her fault and has very little recourse. If I fuck and film a willing woman over the age of 18 and choose to show my friends, there is nothing illegal about it. If I set up shop and charge them $10.00 to see it, why would I need records of her age if I KNOW that she is 18+ for sure? What is going to happen? Some fed is going to knock on my door and want proof? Look up her drivers license with your search warrantes asshole. Come back and see me when you ACTUALLY have something. Kiss and tell isn't against the law as far as I know. These are just thoughts, I am no way trying to state that these are facts. Just my $.02 With the money to be made (or has been made for that matter) it is probably worth a small legal battle that Solomon will most likely win. Thoughts?

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TheGoldenChild Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Pacific Palisades Posts: 6,940	Lot's of great conspiracy theories....only one true story. Rick has the rights. Chicago webmasters I just confirmed for the Mancow Show I'll keep you posted before I go on. Sykk- Atherton made money by bilking consumers into thinking they'd actually see the video- he never had one. Also you are going to tell me that more people go online to view porn than consumers with VCR's and DVD player's? Simply not the case bro- There are more people in the entire world that own a VCR than a a credit card, or a computer. That's a fact. This tape is also NOT the xray vision tape- Most everyone has not seen this I'd bet less than 1% of the worl'd population even saw the first tape online. __________________

05-10-2004, 04:26 PM	#41
benc Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 788	I think pretty much everyone has seen it. It was even posted here, the color part too. Personally, I think Paris allowed it to come out for the publicity. I could just imagine the conversation with her father. Father: I'm gonna sue the living shit out of this low life Saloman cocksucker Paris: No daddy, this publicity will be good for my shitty reality show. Now dont say another word or im gonna cry Father: ok dear __________________ Numerous Adult and Non Adult Domains For Sale Such as SlutVideos.com, FitWomen.com Listed on Sedo or can do direct sale

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hottoddy Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: PacNorWest Posts: 3,048	It's a gray area that relates to reasonable expectations of privacy. Plus, you have some consent - one of the two parties is behind the actual release (unlike Pam & Tommy, Vince and Janine, etc). If you casually fuck people in hotel rooms and video tape it, there's probably not a reasonable expectation that the tape will remain forever private. Paris probably could have tied it up in court with an injunction though, and it makes you wonder why she didn't. But once the Genie is out of the bottle there isn't much point. My guess is she's still going to sue Soloman for big bucks down the line (all profit damages, punitives, etc). These damages will be easier to prove once she subpoenas all his business records. __________________ - *** -

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maxdaname Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,193	But of course she did it for the publicity, before the tape, nobody knew or gave a fuck about her!

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