Why would I ?

If I'm not in the position to comment then why should I find myself talking out of my ass?

This is a waste of time.

Either I have a clue and know what I talk about or I do not start to argue about it in the first place.

Quite simple,no?


Steve

this is the quiet part, right before the storm of Colin ripping you apart with logic you can't beat.

So only criminals have the experience to discuss what is right or wrong for their various crimes? What about the victims?

Do you know what empathy is? Useful concept.

:Graucho

:glugglug


S.

Definition: [n] understanding and entering into another's feelings



Ok,if it's such an usefull concept.

Then describe me how a soldier feels that is in this war.

Tell me his reaction,tell me how he changes.

Make me believe your theory :winkwink:

Looking forward to hear what you have to say.


Thanx,
Steve

I agree, but War Criminals should be hanged since being shot would be an honorable death...

People that think they should be shot are idiots. The penalty for some hazing and humiliation shouldnt be death. That penalty wouldnt fit the crime, unless the criminal act was a murder.

If I remeber correctly (and I do) nothing happened to those american POW:s

Shows who are the real savages in this war :thumbsup

Isn't the whole war against the convention anyway?

I didn't mean that they should be hanged if they violate a small rule of the convention. I meant if they fuckin go nuts and start torturing and killing prisoners... something like that they should be hanged.

It should be pretty clear to anyone that some of the pictures we've seen are violations of US law, US military law and
international law. The only experience anyone needs to know that is literacy.

Defending soldiers who commit such acts is paramount to defending murderers because they were abused as children. We shouldn't dismiss criminals because of their poor childhood.

They are all subject to the rule of law.

As far as your question, there are hundreds of thousands of soldiers and ex-soldiers who have a whole range of feelings about this or any other war. There are hundreds of thousands of soldiers who haven't committed these acts.

One implication of what you are saying is that only a murderer could understand what it's like to kill someone and therefore only they are "in a position" to discuss it.

What are you advocating? That only a criminal should be able to decide his or her fate because only they understand what it's like to be in their position? Should a jury of "peers" be a jury of rapists, murders, or thieves depending on the circumstances?

Exactly

http://www.occupationwatch.org/article.php?id=82

January?

Try June last year.

You should be seeing this in the press over the next few days.

-Ben

I don't think so.

The conventions were expressly written to apply even in such situations as when war is not recognized by both parties or if there is no armed resistance. It also is applicable in situations when war is not declared.

Joker,

If none of us were interested in, commented on or thought about things which we didn't have personal experience in wouldn't that keep us all ignorant?

What is education?

I mean, not many of us here have a degree in biology but most of us have read something about, for example, evolution and have an opinion about it.

invasion without permission of UN is not against the convention?

I don't believe anything like that exists in any of the conventions which the US signed. Am I wrong?

you people are funny.

You think this is the first time?

"NAHA, Okinawa (CNN) -- Three U.S. servicemen were convicted Thursday in the kidnapping and rape of a 12-year-old Okinawa girl and sentenced to up to seven years in a Japanese prison.

The sentence was lighter than expected; prosecutors had urged the judges to return 10-year sentences against all three, arguing that the girl was kidnapped, beaten, brutally raped, and then abandoned."

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9603/okinawa_rape/

soldiers rape and kill, thats what they do.

These guys didnt even get a decade in jail for brutally beating, gang raping, and abandoning a helopless 12 year old girl.

If you think these people making Iraqis pose in Gay Porn will get anything worst you and all that think this are mistaken.

shot? right.

and shot? I used to think you were pretty intelligent until 5 minutes ago. :(