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Old 05-07-2004, 01:26 PM   #51
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the whole thing is one big cluster fuck.
and as far as helping osama.. maby they did. But i can think of a half dozen other targets the states could have delt with in regards to "The War On Terror"

Not to mention THATS NOT EVEN THE MAIN REASON THEY INVADED. remeber the whole WOMD... oh yeah.. oops..

The US gov. has lied to its population since day 1 of this whole shitstorm. And the public wasent issued there shit umbrellas.

Btw NO occupying army has EVER managed to maintain controll or make a sucsesfull regime change in the middle east..... ever... since the start of time. Dont think for a split second ANYTHING the US puts in there as a governmet will work.. or last.

The billions and billions of dollars spent on that war probly could have been better spent elsewhere

oh yeah 50 angry arabs

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Old 05-07-2004, 01:26 PM   #52
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This wasn't a debate, it was a simple question, in search of a simple answer.

For someone with the intellect you think you posess, you should be able to distinguish the difference.

The only humiliation I feel is for your parents, after reading the mindfarts you manage squeeze into your every childish post.
not just him/her.
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Old 05-07-2004, 01:29 PM   #53
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I hear they're planning on changing the flag after the "new gov't" is in place.

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Old 05-07-2004, 03:11 PM   #54
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so who over there apologizes when it's OUR people that are captured and tortured?
The bitch with the leash should be the first to take to the sorry stand . Any hope of our people who are captured , kidnapped by any extremist groups went out hahahahahaha thanks to those pics.
If that was your brother or dad on the end of that leash you would have nothing but hatred towards them.
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Old 05-07-2004, 03:32 PM   #55
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Isn't the population of canada about that of NYC and a 10 mile radius?
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Old 05-07-2004, 03:33 PM   #56
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Isn't the population of canada about that of NYC and a 10 mile radius?
You suck at jokes.
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Old 05-07-2004, 03:33 PM   #57
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All the details are here in the actual military investigation report.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell...800-mp-bde.htm
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Old 05-07-2004, 03:34 PM   #58
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Yes, it was Osama and dont think that the idiot Iraqi dictator had nothing to do with it.
Oh please, what did Saddam have to do with 9/11? That sounds like the Wolfowitz school of logic.
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Old 05-07-2004, 03:35 PM   #59
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I hear they're planning on changing the flag after the "new gov't" is in place.

They wanted to change the flag to one that is strikingly similar to Israels.
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Old 05-07-2004, 03:36 PM   #60
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I wasn't joking... what is the population of canada?
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Old 05-07-2004, 03:38 PM   #61
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All the details are here in the actual military investigation report.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell...800-mp-bde.htm
Yikes.

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6. (S) I find that the intentional abuse of detainees by
military police personnel included the following acts:

a. (S) Punching, slapping, and kicking detainees;
jumping on their naked feet;
b. (S) Videotaping and photographing naked male and
female detainees;
c. (S) Forcibly arranging detainees in various
sexually explicit positions for photographing;
d. (S) Forcing detainees to remove their clothing and
keeping them naked for several days at a time;
e. (S) Forcing naked male detainees to wear women's
underwear;
f. (S) Forcing groups of male detainees to masturbate
themselves while being photographed and videotaped;
g. (S) Arranging naked male detainees in a pile and
then jumping on them;
h. (S) Positioning a naked detainee on a MRE Box,
with a sandbag on his head, and attaching wires to his
fingers, toes, and penis to simulate electric torture;
i. (S) Writing "I am a Rapest" (sic) on the leg of a
detainee alleged to have forcibly raped a 15-year old
fellow detainee, and then photographing him naked;
j. (S) Placing a dog chain or strap around a naked
detainee's neck and having a female Soldier pose for a
picture;
k. (S) A male MP guard having sex with a female
detainee;
l. (S) Using military working dogs (without muzzles)
to intimidate and frighten detainees, and in at least
one case biting and severely injuring a detainee;
m. (S) Taking photographs of dead Iraqi detainees.
(ANNEXES 25 and 26)
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Old 05-07-2004, 03:39 PM   #62
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jeeze man....

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8. (U) In addition, several detainees also described the
following acts of abuse, which under the circumstances, I
find credible based on the clarity of their statements
and supporting evidence provided by other witnesses
(ANNEX 26):

a. (U) Breaking chemical lights and pouring the
phosphoric liquid on detainees;
b. (U) Threatening detainees with a charged 9mm pistol;
c. (U) Pouring cold water on naked detainees;
d. (U) Beating detainees with a broom handle and a
chair;
e. (U) Threatening male detainees with rape;
f. (U) Allowing a military police guard to stitch the
wound of a detainee who was injured after being slammed
against the wall in his cell;
g. (U) Sodomizing a detainee with a chemical light and
perhaps a broom stick.
h. (U) Using military working dogs to frighten and
intimidate detainees with threats of attack, and in one
instance actually biting a detainee.
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Old 05-07-2004, 03:44 PM   #63
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I wasn't joking... what is the population of canada?
I meant, you suck at getting jokes... you know, was supposed to be funny, ha ha... like that flag.

Anyway, the population is somewhere around 31 million, I think.
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OMFG I honestly hope you die in the near future. That is one of the most ignorant things I've ever seen. You are infecting the world with your stupidity.
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Oh please, what did Saddam have to do with 9/11? That sounds like the Wolfowitz school of logic.
You obvously don't know the facts. Not going to waste my time and correct you.
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OMFG I honestly hope you die in the near future. That is one of the most ignorant things I've ever seen. You are infecting the world with your stupidity.
Actually, it's true. Whether it's a war or not, the US entered Iraq of it's own accord in a war like manner.

Dictionary... Invasion: The act of invading, especially the entrance of an armed force into a territory to conquer.
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You obvously don't know the facts. Not going to waste my time and correct you.
Spoken like a true person that cannot substantitate his statements!
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Old 05-07-2004, 03:57 PM   #68
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so who over there apologizes when it's OUR people that are captured and tortured?
Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Wolfowitz?
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From the actual investigation report that's online now.

Some of this stuff is pretty sicko:

"They made them do strange exercises by sliding on their stomach, jump up and down, throw water on them and made them some wet, called them all kinds of names such as "gays" do they like to make love to guys, then they handcuffed their hands together and their legs with shackles and started to stack them on top of each other by insuring that the bottom guys penis will touch the guy on tops butt."

"During my tour at the prison I observed that when the male detainees were first brought to the facility, some of them were made to wear female underwear, which I think was to somehow break them down."

6. (S) I find that the intentional abuse of detainees by
military police personnel included the following acts:

a. (S) Punching, slapping, and kicking detainees;
jumping on their naked feet;

b. (S) Videotaping and photographing naked male and
female detainees;

c. (S) Forcibly arranging detainees in various
sexually explicit positions for photographing;

d. (S) Forcing detainees to remove their clothing and
keeping them naked for several days at a time;

e. (S) Forcing naked male detainees to wear women's
underwear;

f. (S) Forcing groups of male detainees to masturbate
themselves while being photographed and videotaped;

g. (S) Arranging naked male detainees in a pile and
then jumping on them;

h. (S) Positioning a naked detainee on a MRE Box,
with a sandbag on his head, and attaching wires to his
fingers, toes, and penis to simulate electric torture;

i. (S) Writing "I am a Rapest" (sic) on the leg of a
detainee alleged to have forcibly raped a 15-year old
fellow detainee, and then photographing him naked;

j. (S) Placing a dog chain or strap around a naked
detainee's neck and having a female Soldier pose for a
picture;

k. (S) A male MP guard having sex with a female
detainee;

l. (S) Using military working dogs (without muzzles)
to intimidate and frighten detainees, and in at least
one case biting and severely injuring a detainee;

m. (S) Taking photographs of dead Iraqi detainees.

8. (U) In addition, several detainees also described the
following acts of abuse, which under the circumstances, I
find credible based on the clarity of their statements
and supporting evidence provided by other witnesses
(ANNEX 26):

a. (U) Breaking chemical lights and pouring the
phosphoric liquid on detainees;

b. (U) Threatening detainees with a charged 9mm pistol;

c. (U) Pouring cold water on naked detainees;

d. (U) Beating detainees with a broom handle and a
chair;

e. (U) Threatening male detainees with rape;

f. (U) Allowing a military police guard to stitch the
wound of a detainee who was injured after being slammed
against the wall in his cell;

g. (U) Sodomizing a detainee with a chemical light and
perhaps a broom stick.

h. (U) Using military working dogs to frighten and
intimidate detainees with threats of attack, and in one
instance actually biting a detainee.
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Oil had ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with it!
The price of the war, $125,000,000,000 and climbing.

Just how much oil can be bought for that ammount of money?

QUITE A FUCKING BIT. Far more, than the US could ever "steal" from Iraq, with the world watching.
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The price of the war, $125,000,000,000 and climbing.

Just how much oil can be bought for that ammount of money?

QUITE A FUCKING BIT. Far more, than the US could ever "steal" from Iraq, with the world watching.
People don't seem to understand.. If the war had anything to do with oil, it wouldn't be about making it cheaper. It'd be about a) controlling the flow of supply and b) making more profits for American/British oil companies.

The price of the war is paid for by the tax payer. American's will be paying off this war for years to come... not to mention all the other invasions that may take place in the name of T.W.A.T
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You obvously don't know the facts. Not going to waste my time and correct you.
Gee wiz. Maybe I missed all the Saddam - 9/11 links.
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The price of the war, $125,000,000,000 and climbing.

Just how much oil can be bought for that ammount of money?

QUITE A FUCKING BIT. Far more, than the US could ever "steal" from Iraq, with the world watching.
The citizens/tax payers foot the bill and the large companies like Cheney's walk away with rights, no bid contracts, and future opportunities in the region.
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thats right... nobody.

The pussification of America continues.
You're the invaders idiot.

Get out of Iraq or get what's coming to you.
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Absolutely !

After all, isn;t it : BRING THEM ON !

Iraqis wont rest till all americans are gone... either on their own or in bodybags.
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Good point.

Is this war being fought by a civilized nation? or a bunch of drunken rednecks living out their Deliverance fantasies?

Great nations lead by example.
Exactly, American soldiers should never behave like this.
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gonna see are some fingers pointing to everyone,
passing on the blame.
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