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WarChild 05-06-2004 03:21 PM

Wilber,

I have two Rottweilers I brought back from Costa Rica. Neither have papers.

Could you tell me from pictures, to the best of your knowledge, if they appear to have anything other than Rottweiler in them.

They can't ever have papers, and they're just pets .. I'm kind of curious though. Both dogs are marked properly, but the female seems sort of smallish, even for a bitch.

Anyway, if you can do this .. Let me know ;)

Preacher 05-06-2004 03:23 PM

cute :)

Wilber 05-06-2004 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WarChild
Wilber,

I have two Rottweilers I brought back from Costa Rica. Neither have papers.

Could you tell me from pictures, to the best of your knowledge, if they appear to have anything other than Rottweiler in them.

They can't ever have papers, and they're just pets .. I'm kind of curious though. Both dogs are marked properly, but the female seems sort of smallish, even for a bitch.

Anyway, if you can do this .. Let me know ;)

Post 'em and I'll let you know.

fris 05-06-2004 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wilber
Name me the sire and the dame and I'll match it against my database.
gimme your first and last name and i will match it against the government computer for your social security number

Babagirls 05-06-2004 03:27 PM

awwwwww CUTE DOG!!!!!!!!!!!!:thumbsup

sweetcuties 05-06-2004 03:33 PM

I wasn't gonna post my personal akc info cause it's no one's biz but since you wanna be a smart ass and act like your know everything... truly sad how an innocent thread brings out the "haterade" out there... sad man. Anyway, my car is screaming my name... "clean me", 75 degree's... gonna be a good night

Breed: cocker spaniel
Dob: 8/26/03
Sire: Dusty Susie Coleen T
SN: 7822380 (not gonna give you the entire #)

BuzzybeeSusie Coleen T
SR: 034120 (not gonna give you the entire #)

Wilber 05-06-2004 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fris
gimme your first and last name and i will match it against the government computer for your social security number
Yea huh, good luck with that dweeble.

Wilber 05-06-2004 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sweetcuties
I
Breed: cocker spaniel
Dob: 8/26/03
Sire: Dusty Susie Coleen T
SN: 7822380 (not gonna give you the entire #)

BuzzybeeSusie Coleen T
SR: 034120 (not gonna give you the entire #)

Not getting any hits. What state and what's the breeder/kennel name?

WarChild 05-06-2004 03:39 PM

Wilber:

These are all the pics I have right now, and can't hotlink so they're on this html page:

http://www.creamshots.com/pups/pups.html

Most of the pictures are from 1 year ago, when they were 1 year old .. Right after the little female had both hips repaired.

The bottom two pictures are more recent. They were about 2 years old in the pictures. She is 88 pounds, He is 148.

Wilber 05-06-2004 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WarChild
I have two Rottweilers
Rottweilers...love 'em. I've owned 3, one was faulted on conformation
but was one of the smartest dogs I even had the pleasure of knowing.

Rottweilers are originally bred from mastiffs. Rottweilers were originally
bred by cattle and sheep herders who would use the dogs for not only
herding but as guards of money. The dogs wore special collars that
were money pouches and when the herd was sold in the town the owners
could safely get drunk and passout with their money wrapped around
the dogs neck...if anyone tried to fuck with the owner or the money the
dogs would instinctively kill the robbers. Owners always woke up hung
over and still in possession of their funds.

Mastiffs were used by the Romans in battle. The dogs were outfitted with armor
and were the first wave sent in, the dogs would take out 10-12 of the
enemy before they were killed. Very valuable and formidable warriors.

Wilber 05-06-2004 03:45 PM

http://www.creamshots.com/pups/8.jpg

They are not mixed with anything. Unfortunate you don't have a history
on those dogs I'd swear they are Danish origin.

The dark mask on the "big dog" is beautiful, very desirable in rotties.

Nice animals you have there...I bet they look real ominous at night.

WarChild 05-06-2004 03:46 PM

Deffinetly best dogs I've ever had. Fiercly loyal, but gentle and intelligent. Good combination in my books.

Female is a little too light for kenel club standards I believe .. And he is a little too large if I'm right.

Wilber 05-06-2004 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WarChild
Deffinetly best dogs I've ever had. Fiercly loyal,
but gentle and intelligent. Good combination in my books.

Once you have their attention and they respect you as the alpha
there is hardly a breed to match their obedience and determination.
Quote:

Female is a little too light for kenel club standards I believe
.. And he is a little too large if I'm right.

You want to measure the dogs at the withers. The withers is the top
of the front shoulders, I always push the dog's head down so it's level
with the withers to take a measurement.

dames are 22" to 25" and sires are 24" to 27". 27" is a very large dog
and I'd say your male looks about 26"ish...maybe a shave less.

WarChild 05-06-2004 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wilber
http://www.creamshots.com/pups/8.jpg

They are not mixed with anything. Unfortunate you don't have a history
on those dogs I'd swear they are Danish origin.

The dark mask on the "big dog" is beautiful, very desirable in rotties.

Nice animals you have there...I bet they look real ominous at night.

Thanks!

They may look ominous, until you get close and the lick attack begins. Not too ominous after that.

Couple of traits I've noticed they share, along with a friend's rottweiler:

Sleep on their backs, legs in the air spread eagle (or against a wall)

Whine and or whimper followed by growling and aggression towards other dogs. I know the dog-dog aggression is a symptom of improper socialization, and the fact the male is not Neutered and draws attention from other males ... But still I find it comical to see big dogs whimpering at each other .. It's like a trick almost "No honestly, I just want to be your friend. C'mere"

Wilber 05-06-2004 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WarChild
Couple of traits I've noticed they share, along with a friend's rottweiler:

Sleep on their backs, legs in the air spread eagle (or against a wall)

Yea, and their jowls spread out...they look funny as heck. They also
like to lay on their bellies and fold one paw under...it's a rottie thing.

Once I got into rotties I started to appreciate the mastiffs.
Mastiff
http://www.ezthemes.com/previews/m/mastiff.jpg
This pic is in the CKC book and I just love it. The majesticness and
muscle development in that animal is superb. Look at the confidence
in his eyes.

These guys are better in a group of 3 or more. Definitely an outside
animal. Give them acreage to patrol and you'll never be robbed again.

WarChild 05-06-2004 04:06 PM

My ex girlfriend and her mother are registered breaders of Bull Mastifs. They are Shaela (I think) Bull Mastifs, in Victoria B.C.

I always thought they were beautiful dogs.

Wilber 05-06-2004 04:09 PM

The gardeners are here...I got to go give them shit.
I'll check back here later.

Wilber 05-06-2004 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WarChild
Victoria B.C.
I've been there, quirky little island town that is.

SomeCreep 05-06-2004 05:38 PM

aaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww :glugglug

sean416 05-06-2004 05:55 PM

Very interesting thread. I avoided clicking on it before, but im glad I did.

I dont know anything about dogs, but enjoyed the conversation on rottweilers. A high school friend of mine had two of them, I'm not sure whether or not they're pure breed, just always assumed they were. But anyhow, the dogs caught a robber in the backyard and jumped over a 6 foot fence to catch the guy and one of them came back with some of the robbers calve and jeans in his mouth. The storey was legendary.

Metatron-SpookyCash 05-06-2004 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wilber
Don't think of it as "bringing you down" think of it as "callin' bullshit".

Take it as a lesson learned and next time you buy a dog go to the AKC
first...they are more than willing to help and the AKC is full of professionals
and dog lovers. No bullshit stuff.

You got taken...move on.

So, you like dogs? Or do you just have serious control issues?

reynold 05-06-2004 05:56 PM

Cute dog! :thumbsup

sweetcuties 05-06-2004 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Metatron-SpookyCash
So, you like dogs? Or do you just have serious control issues?
Yea, he's fucked up... already responded to him in an earlier thread... he's got serious issues. Below is my dog's info... left out a few # cause it's no one's biz

Breed: cocker spaniel
Dob: 8/26/03
Sire: Dusty Susie Coleen T
SN: 7822380 (not gonna give you the entire #)

BuzzybeeSusie Coleen T
SR: 034120 (not gonna give you the entire #) [/B][/QUOTE]

EviLGuY 05-06-2004 06:10 PM

Cute little bastard! :thumbsup

flashfreak 05-06-2004 06:14 PM

hmm.. they lied you, it's not a cocker spaniel, maybe a cocker-french puddle cross-breed .

here's a 100% cocker spaniel, Sushi, my wife's:

http://www.adultgamestemple.com/temp/sushi.jpg

sweetcuties 05-06-2004 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by flashfreak
hmm.. they lied you, it's not a cocker spaniel, maybe a cocker-french puddle cross-breed .

here's a 100% cocker spaniel, Sushi, my wife's:

http://www.adultgamestemple.com/temp/sushi.jpg

Um, ok... I got my pup 6 wks old and I saw his parents... also, I've got akc papers... read the thread

Wilber 05-06-2004 06:28 PM

So much stupidity and where do I start.

Quote:

Originally posted by Metatron-SpookyCash
So, you like dogs? Or do you just have serious control issues?
Come back when you can structure a sentence. I rarely talk
to an 89 poster anyway. Ask permission next time you wish to
talk to me.
Quote:

Originally posted by sweetcuties
Yea, he's fucked up... already responded to him in an earlier thread...
he's got serious issues. Below is my dog's info... left out a few
# cause it's no one's biz
Breed: cocker spaniel
Dob: 8/26/03
Sire: Dusty Susie Coleen T
SN: 7822380 (not gonna give you the entire #)
BuzzybeeSusie Coleen T
SR: 034120 (not gonna give you the entire #)

I told you there is no hits on that, I asked you for more info
but just like a dweeble who pays purebred prices for a mutt
you failed to read and learn.
Quote:

Originally posted by flashfreak
here's a 100% cocker spaniel, Sushi, my wife's:

Nice bait. That "thing" is god knows what but it would fail miserably
at a conformation show. They wouldn't even let it in the parking lot
much less the ring.
Cut the poor things nails for christ's sake.

flashfreak 05-06-2004 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sweetcuties
Um, ok... I got my pup 6 wks old and I saw his parents... also, I've got akc papers... read the thread
I understand you have akc papers but nowadays this doesn't prove it's purebreed. I can get fake pedigree papers for few tens dollars here...

I don't have to read the thread, I saw the pics.

WarChild 05-06-2004 06:32 PM

Oh yeah Sweetcuties:

Sorry for hijacking your thread. Cute dog :)

sweetcuties 05-06-2004 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by flashfreak
I understand you have akc papers but nowadays this doesn't prove it's purebreed. I can get fake pedigree papers for few tens dollars here...

I don't have to read the thread, I saw the pics.

Whatever, your nobody in my book and I don't give a fuck what you or any other asswipe thinks... I already provided half my akc info... it's not your biz or anyone else's biz the correct # on my dog! Btw, I remember you in a thread a few yrs ago pushing your games shit... who the fuck joins a site to play games, lol.

Wilber 05-06-2004 06:42 PM

Just so there's no confusion in the future. This is what a
Cocker Spaniel looks like.
http://www.akc.org/breeds/recbreeds/cockersp.cfm

For sweetcuties - notice the muzzle, height, and spine length.

For flashfreak- notice the amount of coat on the legs, muzzle
and spine length.

The AKC's pic, flashfreak's pic, and sweetcuties's pic are three
entirely different dogs.

flashfreak 05-06-2004 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sweetcuties
Whatever, your nobody in my book and I don't give a fuck what you or any other asswipe thinks... I already provided half my akc info... it's not your biz or anyone else's biz the correct # on my dog! Btw, I remember you in a thread a few yrs ago pushing your games shit... who the fuck joins a site to play games, lol.
why are you so rude? I understand you're nervous but calm down, it's not the end of the world.

Wilber 05-06-2004 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sweetcuties
I already provided half my akc info
You got shit babe. Your just another ripped off customer who refuses
to listen to a professional. You don't want to believe you jumped
in too early and didn't do your homework properly.
I deal with your attitude constantly, your not alone in your views.

It's a pet, it's cute, if it makes you happy then more power to ya.
Just don't pass it off as a purebred and you'll never run into a
conversation like this again. Lots of professional dog people out
there so watch your words in mixed company.

flashfreak 05-06-2004 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wilber
Just so there's no confusion in the future. This is what a
Cocker Spaniel looks like.
http://www.akc.org/breeds/recbreeds/cockersp.cfm

For sweetcuties - notice the muzzle, height, and spine length.

For flashfreak- notice the amount of coat on the legs, muzzle
and spine length.

The AKC's pic, flashfreak's pic, and sweetcuties's pic are three
entirely different dogs.

you forgot smth: there are 2 standards : american cocker spaniel and english cocker spaniel.
my wife's (actually my wife mother's now) is english cocker spaniel.

flashfreak 05-06-2004 06:49 PM

http://www.akc.org/breeds/recbreeds/engcocke.cfm

PS: I don't have papers.. such a shame :1orglaugh

Wilber 05-06-2004 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by flashfreak
you forgot smth: there are 2 standards : american cocker spaniel and english cocker spaniel.
my wife's (actually my wife mother's now) is english cocker spaniel.

your correct, my bad. I'm stuck on Cocker Spaniel lessons.

Warden 05-06-2004 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pleasurepays
haha.

its like smacking a 5 year old up side the head and telling him santa is dead.

Santa's not real????:( :( :(

WPProphet 05-06-2004 07:12 PM

Hey wilber! I gotta question for you. I have asked soooo many people what kind of dog I have but no one can give me a definitive answer. I think she's part Aussie shepperd and something else. BUt ive been told all sorts of things, like Aus. Cattle dog???, She's gotta be some type of sheperd cause she herds the shit out of my pit when they go play. not sure if you can tell but any help would be great. Thanks!


http://www.99touchdowns.com/images/p...or-the-web.jpg http://www.99touchdowns.com/images/p...r-the-web3.jpg http://www.99touchdowns.com/images/p...fortheweb2.jpg

Mr. Marks 05-06-2004 07:58 PM

lovely dogs!

Wilber 05-06-2004 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WPProphet
Hey wilber! I gotta question for you. I have asked soooo many people what kind of dog I have http://www.99touchdowns.com/images/p...r-the-web3.jpg
That one is German Shepard and Border Collie.

Wilber 05-06-2004 10:38 PM

Border Collies and Poodles are the most intelligent breeds. German
Shepards have the unique trait of "willing to please"...one of the easiest
dogs to train because all they want to do is make you happy.

German Shepards are the perfect "first dog" because of the ease in
training and the loyalty they possess. Border Collies are always "on
the go"...that coupled with their intelligence makes them the most
awesome herders and ball chasers.

I bet that dog is not only smart but super loyal.

Pornwolf 05-06-2004 10:45 PM

Nice!:)

Michaelious 05-06-2004 10:49 PM

aaaaeee he looks cute

Alex Xe 05-07-2004 04:40 AM

Nice :)

kowntafit 05-07-2004 06:11 AM

Cool dog.

It looks like he would be good at sweeping the floor in that first pic. Does your dog use Sunsilk? That is an impressive shine. :winkwink:

Goose 05-07-2004 06:14 AM

nice dog, but probably not a good watcher

Basic_man 05-07-2004 06:16 AM

So fuckin' cute !

Materialist 05-07-2004 06:21 AM

I'd hit it.

Tania 05-07-2004 06:26 AM

lowely dog :thumbsup

erehwon 05-07-2004 07:19 AM

Cute pup, besides, if you love it, and it loves you, who cares if its a purebreed or not. :thumbsup


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