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Old 05-06-2004, 10:36 AM   #1
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Rush Limbaugh Trying To Justify Iraqi Prisoner Tortures! Shame, shame, shame!

Limbaugh has hit a new low. As if he couldn't go lower than snakeshit in quicksand in Australia, he's on the air trying to downplay and justify the Iraqi prisoner torture photos.

Mind you, Pres. Bush already chewed Rumsfeld a new asshole for not letting him know that these abuses were going on, Limbaugh forgets that and goes on how there are worse images like 'porn sites' etc.

Then he stoops even lower talking about how the prisoner photos look like 'homo-erotica' as if to say someone gay had something to do with this nonsense.

This incident will be Bush's downfall. I am becoming more convinced each day that Bush was sabotaged from day one from both the right and the left. He's being used by nazi-wannabes on his own side and left wing intelligence agents.

He gets warnings prior to 911 and they get ignored. Then he gets supposed verifiable evidence of weapons of mass destruction and they're not there after blowing up half of Iraq. Now out of the clear blue sky American troops are busted cold violating every honorable law regarding prisoners of war with video and pics to boot. All this just before the election.

I'm telling you guys, either just before the election or right after a big domestic turmoil will erupt.

The Soviets collapsed because they ran out of money. The U.S. will collapse because we ran out of lies.
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Old 05-06-2004, 10:39 AM   #2
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Rush is a loyal soldier

Onward christian soldier...
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Old 05-06-2004, 10:42 AM   #3
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you think its a coincedence Bush and Rush are such close names?
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Old 05-06-2004, 10:48 AM   #4
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Limbaugh has hit a new low. As if he couldn't go lower than snakeshit in quicksand in Australia, he's on the air trying to downplay and justify the Iraqi prisoner torture photos.

Mind you, Pres. Bush already chewed Rumsfeld a new asshole for not letting him know that these abuses were going on, Limbaugh forgets that and goes on how there are worse images like 'porn sites' etc.

Then he stoops even lower talking about how the prisoner photos look like 'homo-erotica' as if to say someone gay had something to do with this nonsense.

This incident will be Bush's downfall. I am becoming more convinced each day that Bush was sabotaged from day one from both the right and the left. He's being used by nazi-wannabes on his own side and left wing intelligence agents.

He gets warnings prior to 911 and they get ignored. Then he gets supposed verifiable evidence of weapons of mass destruction and they're not there after blowing up half of Iraq. Now out of the clear blue sky American troops are busted cold violating every honorable law regarding prisoners of war with video and pics to boot. All this just before the election.

I'm telling you guys, either just before the election or right after a big domestic turmoil will erupt.

The Soviets collapsed because they ran out of money. The U.S. will collapse because we ran out of lies.
He seriously mentioned porn sites in the same breath as these war crimes images?

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Old 05-06-2004, 11:00 AM   #5
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Limbaugh is a political "entertainer". he says provocative
things to get ratings and sell advertising. (not unlike howard stern)

some of what he says just happens to be true.

and plenty of what he says is just horseshit.

he is no where close to being a moral authority.
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Old 05-06-2004, 11:25 AM   #6
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well I'm suprised! Bush just got on the air and apologized for the prisoner abuses!!!

This after Rush blabbed that he shouldn't and didn't apologize.

Rush if fulla more shit than a constipated elephant.
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Old 05-06-2004, 11:28 AM   #7
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Limbaugh is a political "entertainer". he says provocative
things to get ratings and sell advertising. (not unlike howard stern)

some of what he says just happens to be true.

and plenty of what he says is just horseshit.

he is no where close to being a moral authority.
I agree, He makes his living making bullshit. He makes a hell of a lot too. He'd say anything just to get ratings.
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Old 05-06-2004, 11:29 AM   #8
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He gets warnings prior to 911 and they get ignored.
This is your oppinion and not fact. You honestly think the President just "ignored" 911 warnings? Why don't we let the 911 commission finish it's report. Then we'll have the truth of the matter, or closer to, than you guessing.

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Then he gets supposed verifiable evidence of weapons of mass destruction and they're not there after blowing up half of Iraq.
Most of the world's intelligence services, president Clinton, the house of commons and senate and finally the UN all believed Saddam still had WMD. He certainly had them at one point, didn't he?

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Now out of the clear blue sky American troops are busted cold violating every honorable law regarding prisoners of war with video and pics to boot. All this just before the election.
There's bad apples in every bunch. Sensationalism at it's best here though. There are both Iraqi's that treat American prisoners poorly, and American's that treat Iraqi prisoners poorly. A handfull of troops won't ruin the president, I'm sure.

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I'm telling you guys, either just before the election or right after a big domestic turmoil will erupt.

The Soviets collapsed because they ran out of money. The U.S. will collapse because we ran out of lies.
Umm, okay sure.
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Old 05-06-2004, 11:37 AM   #9
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should have seen me standing next to all the newspapers today with the photo of the female soldier leading a prisoner on a leash. Gigantic letters 'American' on it and me trying VERY hard not to let my voice and therefore my accent be heard. Thanks.
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Old 05-06-2004, 11:38 AM   #10
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should have seen me standing next to all the newspapers today with the photo of the female soldier leading a prisoner on a leash. Gigantic letters 'American' on it and me trying VERY hard not to let my voice and therefore my accent heard. Thanks.
They ran out of pics of brits pissing on prisoners?

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Old 05-06-2004, 11:42 AM   #11
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Limbaugh has hit a new low. As if he couldn't go lower than snakeshit in quicksand in Australia, he's on the air trying to downplay and justify the Iraqi prisoner torture photos.

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I know you are desperately pushing your own political agenda here, but Rush said nothing of the sort. Rather, he's just putting some perspective on the hysteria. Specifically, these abuses are attributable to 7 people (out of over 150,000 troops and civilian contractors).
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Old 05-06-2004, 11:46 AM   #12
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Limbaugh is a political "entertainer". he says provocative
things to get ratings and sell advertising. (not unlike howard stern)

some of what he says just happens to be true.

and plenty of what he says is just horseshit.

he is no where close to being a moral authority.

BRAVO.

However, very few people ever make that distinction, and Rush winds up with a large following who takes what he says as sermon.

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Old 05-06-2004, 11:57 AM   #13
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They ran out of pics of brits pissing on prisoners?

oh boy..no, that story is in no way being ignored. It is massive and there is no way it is going to end without being a huge deal. Either they are real pics and then all hell *is* going to break out in Parliment or they are fake and then we have the editor of the paper that ran them facing a future I wouldn't wish on many people especially as he no doubt thought they were real as after the Hutton ingury fall out the BBC faced the media is trying to be ultra careful in order not to face the same beating. I am NO fan of his (he isn't a great friend to those of us Americans living in the UK..lets put it that way) but if he had no doubt in his mind that those pics were real he had a duty to run them. Oooo, political blood sports.
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Old 05-06-2004, 11:58 AM   #14
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There's bad apples in every bunch. Sensationalism at it's best here though. There are both Iraqi's that treat American prisoners poorly, and American's that treat Iraqi prisoners poorly. A handfull of troops won't ruin the president, I'm sure.
No, those soldiers where just obeying orders that where given to them by a civilian contractor.
You think the Bush admin didn't know about those abuses and others that are going on? They knew and they encouraged it but now that it's public, they're playing innocent. Why else would they hire civilian contractors who aren't bound by rules and laws? The bad apples are the Bush admin, not the soldiers who where following orders given by someone who couldn't care less about the reputation of the US military.
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did someone just honestly say 'they were just obeying orders'?
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No, those soldiers where just obeying orders that where given to them by a civilian contractor.
You think the Bush admin didn't know about those abuses and others that are going on? They knew and they encouraged it but now that it's public, they're playing innocent. Why else would they hire civilian contractors who aren't bound by rules and laws? The bad apples are the Bush admin, not the soldiers who where following orders given by someone who couldn't care less about the reputation of the US military.
I'll concede that point to some degree.

It's unfortunate that it happens, but I still think it's tit for tat.
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Old 05-06-2004, 12:13 PM   #17
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I remember reading that when Rush went on the air he wasn't even a registered voter yet. He soon found the republican spiel and ran with it. I wouldn't be surprised if he still votes democrat just so he can have another president to bitch about.
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This is your oppinion and not fact.
Are you joking or just ignorant?

"Isn't it a fact, Dr. Rice, that the Aug. 6th PDB warned against possible attacks in this country?" commissioner Richard Ben-Veniste, a onetime Watergate prosecutor, said after Rice testified that the president had not been given specific warnings about such plots. "And I ask you whether you recall the title of that PDB?"

Rice replied, "I believe the title was 'Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States.'"


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"Isn't it a fact, Dr. Rice, that the Aug. 6th PDB warned against possible attacks in this country?" commissioner Richard Ben-Veniste, a onetime Watergate prosecutor, said after Rice testified that the president had not been given specific warnings about such plots. "And I ask you whether you recall the title of that PDB?"

Rice replied, "I believe the title was 'Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States.'"


http://www.usatoday.com/news/washing...ide-usat_x.htm
It's been common knowledge for presidents for a long time that Bin Laden wished to strike the United States.

How does ammount to a warning, that could be acted upon, about September 11th?

Maybe if the title was "BIn Laden determined to crash planes in to the world trade center and pentagon" you've have something to stand on. But general intelligence does not a specific threat make.
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I know you are desperately pushing your own political agenda here, but Rush said nothing of the sort. Rather, he's just putting some perspective on the hysteria. Specifically, these abuses are attributable to 7 people (out of over 150,000 troops and civilian contractors).
You are trying to defend your political agenda and you're failing miserably.

You can listen to the MP3 and read transcripts here:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200405050003


CALLER: It was like a college fraternity prank that stacked up naked men --

LIMBAUGH: Exactly. Exactly my point! This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation and we're going to ruin people's lives over it and we're going to hamper our military effort, and then we are going to really hammer them because they had a good time. You know, these people are being fired at every day. I'm talking about people having a good time, these people, you ever heard of emotional release? You of heard of need to blow some steam off?


Here is part of what Limbaugh is talking about:

Twenty-five prisoners have died while being held by U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan and two of them were murdered by Americans, one a soldier and the other a contractor working for the CIA, U.S. Army officials said yesterday.

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...=1083708610505

College pranks and murder, what's the difference to Rush?
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ROFL! Thanks Mr Fiction.


btw we should send the Iraqi prisoners 'GFY' t-shirts.
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Rush Limbaugh is a fat junkie hypocrite.

A perfect role model for the Republican Party.
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