50 reasons to leave iraq

They broke the geneva convention multiple times to, not saying eye for an eye however but important to note.

We are told that not all Iraqis are terrorists or insurgents. Maybe we should also be reminded that the actions of less than half a dozen "reservists" does NOT reflect the behavior of the entire Allied army.

taking? no we entered the shitter the day it was announced bush STOLE the election

Dang, those pics are horible !

It seems that all the money and effort spent on marketing this war didnt fall on deaf ears.

Pathetic to see mainstream media affect supposedly intelligent business people to this extent. 5 pornstars have been diagnosed with HIV, so using some of you people's logic, every pornstar now has HIV. Ridiculous.

This goes beyond a couple individuals. It involves a mindset out there that you can do whatever you want with prisoners and get away with it.

The military is supposed to operate under the most strictest of command and control authority. This is about the disintegration of that authority.

Also, these events transpired over the past 6 months. Why wasn't it immediately brought out? The President claims he wasn't aware of this until he saw it on TV. If he is telling the truth then Donald Rumsfeld should be fired for not informing him of this situation.

its good that some news show whats going on

I always thought Rumsfield looked like Satan....

That chic in the pics is so OWNED. After all this crap she'll be lucky to get an hour of sunshine a day in the yard by herself. :321GFY

It is a couple of individuals. Funny how you believe the media's constant finger pointing whenever something arises. I suppose you're going to believe the bad childhood excuse when it comes out later too? Your whole argument is based on the assumption that these events happened over 6 months with no action being taken. Do you expect, as the media expects, as soon as allegations come up, that there should be immediate discipline without an investigation? Do you think Taguba's 53 page report was whipped up overnight? Just because the media just starting showing photos, doesn't mean that there hasn't been anything being done.

Ouch!

wake the fuck up much worse stuff happen on both sides in war...

grow up and face reality!

If the pictures hadn't surfaced, the cover-up would still be going on.... Bush claims he knows nothing, that he learned about it on TV !!!!

Amazing how he could now what was going on in " rape rooms" thousands of miles from the nearest US personnel, but can't know what is going on when that same " rape room" is under his control....

Where they looking for WMD up the detainess's ass???

Talking about " ass" , somebody comes to mind....

Go look up General Antonio M. Taguba's report.

Its amazing how some people think.

I dont care how you vote, just get the correct facts.

Most, if not all of the people here are essentially small business owners.


Both democrat and rupublican parties basic ideals dictate they are harsh on the porn industry. Neither party will ever shut down the industy.

however, One of the parties just wants to get more of your income to distribute to the people that dont work as hard as you. You may be supporting your very own pay cut.

Your vote, could cost you a lot of money. So be careful how you use it.

Timeline of the incident for those who can't think past breaking CNN news headlines:

Jan. 13, 2004: Spec. Joseph M. Darby turned over images on a computer disk to a sergeant in his unit, who immediately notified Army criminal investigators.

Within hours, the investigators seized computers and discs from members of the unit.

Jan 15, 2004: Gen. John Abizaid phoned Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld.

Within days: Six soldiers from the 372nd were quickly taken off duty and there was a public announcement about the criminal probe. (with no pictures)

Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, the ground commander in Iraq, was briefed on the initial findings and within days asked Abizaid to order a broader investigation that would reach into the entire 800th Military Police Brigade, some 3,200 soldiers that included the Maryland-based unit. There was no announcement of that more extensive investigation.

Next 2.5 Months: Maj. Gen. Antonio M. Taguba led the investigation. Investigation completed in March and six Maryland reservists were charged with crimes.


http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nat...orld-headlines

we live in different times. and this close to election, such news are hyperventilated to the maximum extent.

LOL....

And when after March was the president informed??? Or is this a ordinary situation for him, with no implication.

Congress got report from the web, because army officials came to a briefing without it....

Now, crawl back in your bunker.

What are you? 15 years old or something? The President is only involved now because the news finally caught on to the story. This is a criminal investigation within the military organization and there are more than a few people who are capable of carrying that out without the President holding their hand.

Gotta love it when the mental peons come out to play.

hahaha, the guy posting on the porn board with the Bush signature is telling us we're being affected by the mainstream media. :1orglaugh

Exactly what I said: coverup .

No pictures surfacing, no president involvment so he can be kept away from HIS responsability as the " chief commander"....

No point discussing with you, and BTW, I am probably twice your age and IQ....

One of the problems here is that it has been nearly five months and only the lowly enlisted grunts have received sanctions. This is a failure in leadership by the senior commanders and Taguba's report details that these grunts were merely following the lead and encouragement of civilian contractors (CIA?) and also more than likely the officers.

One of Bush's problems is that he has never been a details kind of guy. If the report given to him is not read to him or on a single sheet of paper, its likely to have slipped by him. No doubt it went something like this:

Rummy: Got some reports of mistreatment of iraqi detainees.
Bush: Ok
Rummy: Its being investigated.
Bush: Ok
Rummy: Next we have problems in Fallujah....

Heads are going to roll now that the press is all over this. Had 60 min not broken this story, I am not convinced that there would have been any change in policy, just 6 grunts would have been dishonorably discharged. No, the attitude that created this environment where its ok to mistreat POWs would have remained, only the perpetrators of future acts would have been on notice not to photograph their conduct.

So you're saying the president should be involved in every single criminal investigation?

:(

Thats some fucked up shit. Can't believe how low some of our people can be...

There has not been any cover up. It is within military jurisdiction and they have been on top of it since it was originally reported by a soldier. It is not the militarys obligation to inform the press. In addition it is not the obligation of the military to inform the President of every breach of the UCMJ.