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FTVGirls 05-05-2004 12:27 PM
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bufferover 05-05-2004 12:29 PM
Klinton was war hero, Bush was war hero now and this guy :)

nicchick 05-05-2004 01:03 PM
What a bunch of crap-
Some right wingers are claiming that Kerry wasn't injured badly enough to deserve the Purple Heart-
But NOBODY is disputing the fact that he rescued a Green Beret soldier from the Bay Hap River in Vietnam while wounded and under heavy enemy fire.

I'd like to hear of 1 single time when Bush ever showed any courage in his life- ( Oh yeah- He stopped getting drunk every night when he turned 40 - How courageous ).
As far as his calling some of the other soldiers over there "Baby killers", hasn't anyone here ever heard of the My Lai Massacre ?
http://www.worldhistory.com/wiki/M/My-Lai-massacre.htm

I hope they continue to question Kerry's courage because it invites comparisons between his bravery and our Chickenhawk presidents complete lack of the same.

bizmak 05-05-2004 02:09 PM
Just don't vote...

Buff 05-06-2004 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by Thong Sniper
It's ironic to me that a guy named buff who's spouting right wing propaganda is telling me that I should open my mind when he's so brain washed by closed minded conservatives he felt the need to libel a decorated war vetran who's running for president on a adult buisness message board.

I'm close minded? Right, and the person you're helping by posting this ficticious claim is an open minded Bible thumper with a heart of gold. Go fuck yourself, stupid.
I'm not a conservative, you leftard dipshit. And Kerry is an admitted war criminal -- that's what you want for President -- a person who has admitted to committing war atrocities??? You leftards are so stupid you flip flop back and forth between 5 sides of a 2 sided issue.

Buff 05-06-2004 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by theking
That this Dr. Louis Letson was the doctor of record is being questioned at this point. In addition any wound that requires treatment (SOP is to order a person to be treated to avoid infection) no matter how minor makes one eligible for the Purple Heart.
False. In most cases the wound has to be imposed by the enemy. Not "any" wound.

Buff 05-06-2004 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by theking
John O?Neill has been a nemesis of Senator Kerry since the '60's. He makes...what I consider to be incredible statments. An example would be from last night during an interview. He said that a Commanding Officer of Kerry's for a period of three weeks...said that he did not approve Kerry's 1st Purple Heart because he felt that it was a "self inflicted" wound. Yet that same Commanding Officer in a report praised Kerry with the highest of laurel's. Most...if not all...Commanding Officers who thought that...even the lowest of ranking personell under their Command...had self inflicted a wound would have made out some kind of report...and if it were an Officer he would certainly be negligent in the performance of his duty not to do so...and to order/request that the Officer in question be removed from his Command. So I call John O?Neill's statements BS.
He checked a fucking box on a standard form and like he and other commanders did for just about everyone who served, he checked the highest box. It's not like he wrote an essay saying Kerry was a good soldier. He simple put a check in a box. Anyone who has been a soldier, sailor, airman, or marine knows what these evaluation forms look like, and they don't mean a whole lot.

theking 05-06-2004 11:47 AM
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Originally posted by Buff
False. In most cases the wound has to be imposed by the enemy. Not "any" wound.
You are correct...and I made the mistake of not specifying a wound received via the enemy...as I assumed that it would be assumed.

theking 05-06-2004 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by Buff
He checked a fucking box on a standard form and like he and other commanders did for just about everyone who served, he checked the highest box. It's not like he wrote an essay saying Kerry was a good soldier. He simple put a check in a box. Anyone who has been a soldier, sailor, airman, or marine knows what these evaluation forms look like, and they don't mean a whole lot.
I spent 12 years in the Army so I am fully aware of how an eval works and what they mean...and you are wrong when you say they do not mean a whole lot. If an Officer gets less than a perfect eval...it may very well be a career ender...and I suggest that most...if not all Commanding Officers would give less than a perfect eval if they in fact believed that a subordinate Officer self inflicted a wound. I also suggest that most if not all Commanding Officers would ask for that Officer to be removed from their command and at the least would be derelict in their duty if they did not at least make some kind of report about said Officer.

XxXotic 05-06-2004 11:58 AM
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Originally posted by Buff
May 04, 2004, 4:26 p.m.
Kerry Purple Heart Doc Speaks Out
The medical description of his first wound.

By Byron York

Some critics of Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry have questioned the circumstances surrounding the first of three Purple Hearts Kerry won in Vietnam. Those critics, among them some of Kerry's fellow veterans, have suggested that a wound suffered by Kerry in December 1968 may have made him technically eligible for a Purple Heart but was not severe enough to warrant serious consideration, even for a decoration that was handed out by the thousands. Whatever the case, Kerry was awarded the Purple Heart, and, along with two others he won later, it allowed him to request to leave Vietnam before his tour of duty was finished.

Kerry was treated for the wound at a medical facility in Cam Ranh Bay. The doctor who treated Kerry, Louis Letson, is today a retired general practitioner in Alabama. Letson says he remembers his brief encounter with Kerry 35 years ago because "some of his crewmen related that Lt. Kerry had told them that he would be the next JFK from Massachusetts." Letson says that last year, as the Democratic campaign began to heat up, he told friends that he remembered treating one of the candidates many years ago. In response to their questions, Letson says, he wrote down his recollections of the time. (Letson says he has had no contacts with anyone from the Bush campaign or the Republican party.) What follows is Letson's memory, as he wrote it.
I have a very clear memory of an incident which occurred while I was the Medical Officer at Naval Support Facility, Cam Ranh Bay.
John Kerry was a (jg), the OinC or skipper of a Swift boat, newly arrived in Vietnam. On the night of December 2, he was on patrol north of Cam Ranh, up near Nha Trang area. The next day he came to sick bay, the medical facility, for treatment of a wound that had occurred that night.

The story he told was different from what his crewmen had to say about that night. According to Kerry, they had been engaged in a fire fight, receiving small arms fire from on shore. He said that his injury resulted from this enemy action.

Some of his crew confided that they did not receive any fire from shore, but that Kerry had fired a mortar round at close range to some rocks on shore. The crewman thought that the injury was caused by a fragment ricocheting from that mortar round when it struck the rocks.

That seemed to fit the injury which I treated.

What I saw was a small piece of metal sticking very superficially in the skin of Kerry's arm. The metal fragment measured about 1 cm. in length and was about 2 or 3 mm in diameter. It certainly did not look like a round from a rifle.

I simply removed the piece of metal by lifting it out of the skin with forceps. I doubt that it penetrated more than 3 or 4 mm. It did not require probing to find it, did not require any anesthesia to remove it, and did not require any sutures to close the wound.

The wound was covered with a bandaid.

Not [sic] other injuries were reported and I do not recall that there was any reported damage to the boat.


What a fucking joke of a human being Kerry is. Contrast this piece of shit with Pat Tillman.
how many purple hearts do you have again? superficial wounds or not?



oh yeah, none! :thumbsup

Buff 05-06-2004 11:59 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by theking
I spent 12 years in the Army so I am fully aware of how an eval works and what they mean...and you are wrong when you say they do not mean a whole lot. If an Officer gets less than a perfect eval...it may very well be a career ender...and I suggest that most...if not all Commanding Officers would give less than a perfect eval if they in fact believed that a subordinate Officer self inflicted a wound. I also suggest that most if not all Commanding Officers would ask for that Officer to be removed from their command and at the least would be derelict in their duty if they did not at least make some kind of report about said Officer.
You and I both know that most people get "satisfactory" or better on every single review even though most people are abject shitbags. So don't give me that shit. At the time he gave the eval, he hadn't even been in the fucking unit for a month -- how could he give a superior review??? It's all just going through the motions.

Buff 05-06-2004 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by XxXotic
how many purple hearts do you have again? superficial wounds or not?



oh yeah, none! :thumbsup
One. I have One (1) Purple Heart. I received it for a bullet wound in Central America in 1994. How about the next time you open your dicksucker, you do something useful with it, like fill it with a cock.


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