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Old 05-04-2004, 01:05 AM   #1
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Cswcash looks like trash!

http://www.cswcash.com/


LOL look at these shitty sites i clicked on someones sig and went to this,

which complete idiots run this crap?

stay in warez u high school idiots.
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Old 05-04-2004, 01:06 AM   #2
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It looks okay. They just opted for a non-slick/overtly corp look. Oftentimes "slick" does not necessarily mean "conversion"

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Old 05-04-2004, 01:08 AM   #3
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Don't hate, bro. Oftentimes "slick" does not necessarily mean "conversion"
u want to teach me?

go back to outsourcing your workforce that should be on sewing machines.

now stfu.
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Old 05-04-2004, 01:08 AM   #4
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Tam does. Calling her a warez highschooler is laughable.

You truly don't know anything that's going on in the industry, do you?
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Old 05-04-2004, 01:09 AM   #5
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It looks okay. They just opted for a non-slick/overtly corp look. Oftentimes "slick" does not necessarily mean "conversion"
I agree it can be like that sometimes.

Besides, EVERY program has to start somewhere.

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Tam does. Calling her a warez highschooler is laughable.

You truly don't know anything that's going on in the industry, do you?
yes please teach me aslo i am need of another bullshit sponsor,

which one are u?
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Old 05-04-2004, 01:11 AM   #7
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Check extremepaychecks. Their designs arent exactly good yet they convert better than most pps sponsors.
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yes please teach me aslo i am need of another bullshit sponsor,

which one are u?
Thanx for proving my point
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Old 05-04-2004, 01:12 AM   #9
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LOL look at these shitty sites i clicked on someones sig and went to this,

which complete idiots run this crap?

stay in warez u high school idiots.
You have no idea what you are talking about. Do even know how big CSW Cash is? Or who Tam is? So you base someone business on the design of their site? You obviously haven't thought your post through.
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Old 05-04-2004, 01:13 AM   #10
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Thanx for proving my point
i have sigs off, please tell me what type of sig whore u r so i can make fun of u.
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Check extremepaychecks. Their designs arent exactly good yet they convert better than most pps sponsors.
Good example! A lot of times, its not about being 'slick' but about distinction.
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i have sigs off, please tell me what type of sig whore u r so i can make fun of u.
Wow, with each post you look more and more inmature. By the way, if you have sigs off how did you visit CSW Cash by clicking someones sig. Idiot.
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Old 05-04-2004, 01:16 AM   #13
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The sites and niches are kinda strange "bite sex", not sure about that one.. But the point is, after so many years in this business I've seen people with beautiful sites close shop within six months, and guys with extremely shitty sites become big players.

Take my friend for instance, he made one site offering livecams and nothing else inside. He charged something like $10/mo, and everything inside was all upsell content. Not to mention the outside he said he designed himself with Frontpage in under 3 hours. Sure I laughed at him, but he ended up BANKING to SIX FIGURES. I couldn't fucking believe it either, but sure enough, keeping it simple paid off.

So sure, these sites just may be crappy, but you never know, they may convert better than sites done by professional designers and affiliate programs.

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Old 05-04-2004, 01:17 AM   #14
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Wow, with each post you look more and more inmature. By the way, if you have sigs off how did you visit CSW Cash by clicking someones sig. Idiot.
i have my java programmed to only allow certain things to show,

i guess i clicked yours that is why u continue to whine.
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Yeah who cares what the sites look like? The difference between a good tour and a shitty one can be nearly unnoticeable.

I've promoted some really ugly ass amateur sites with terrible (to my eye) tours, that converted and retained like motherfuckers since they are REAL.
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Old 05-04-2004, 01:20 AM   #16
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i have my java programmed to only allow certain things to show,

i guess i clicked yours that is why u continue to whine.
Oh, I'm not whining. You are just making yourself look stupid. You must not know much about this business if you think a bunch of high school warez idiots run a site that you don't think "looks nice."
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Old 05-04-2004, 01:21 AM   #17
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Yeah who cares what the sites look like? The difference between a good tour and a shitty one can be nearly unnoticeable.

I've promoted some really ugly ass amateur sites with terrible (to my eye) tours, that converted and retained like motherfuckers since they are REAL.
u r talking about amateur sites, they r in an entire different ball park, u aren't gonna sign up crap looking like a mainstream paysite.
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Old 05-04-2004, 01:22 AM   #18
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Oh, I'm not whining. You are just making yourself look stupid. You must not know much about this business if you think a bunch of high school warez idiots run a site that you don't think "looks nice."
no i have no idea about nothing, now run off to your idiot GFY friends and tell them how bad i have been,

u need to stfu because u probly have a rich daddy and less brains than a fire hydrant.
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Old 05-04-2004, 01:27 AM   #19
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no i have no idea about nothing, now run off to your idiot GFY friends and tell them how bad i have been,

u need to stfu because u probly have a rich daddy and less brains than a fire hydrant.
You make too many pointless statements. No I dont have a rich daddy, I don't even have a rich mommy either. I make my own money and know what the fuck I'm doing.
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LOL look at these shitty sites i clicked on someones sig and went to this,

which complete idiots run this crap?

stay in warez u high school idiots.
i'm sure there's plenty of room for everyone in this biz, if you don't like it then shut the fuck up tard
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Old 05-04-2004, 01:30 AM   #21
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i'm sure there's plenty of room for everyone in this biz, if you don't like it then shut the fuck up tard
if i dont like shit that people are doing then i can say so,
wtf i with all u sig whore idiots responding to all the threads? is there no one left here who actually does anything but post on boards?
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Old 05-04-2004, 01:32 AM   #22
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if i dont like shit that people are doing then i can say so,
wtf i with all u sig whore idiots responding to all the threads? is there no one left here who actually does anything but post on boards?
better to be a sig whore than a clueless ranting tard
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if i dont like shit that people are doing then i can say so,
wtf i with all u sig whore idiots responding to all the threads? is there no one left here who actually does anything but post on boards?
You can say whatever you want, thats your opinion. Its just a little dumb stating people are idiots because you dont like the design. And I know your ass isn't calling me a sigwhore. I am part owner of the site in my sig.
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Old 05-04-2004, 01:35 AM   #25
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please msg the rest of the GFY gang to come and defend u, fucking crap u people are so dam lame, u dont know how to whipe your asshole with a towelette let alone this industry.
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You can say whatever you want, thats your opinion. Its just a little dumb stating people are idiots because you dont like the design. And I know your ass isn't calling me a sigwhore. I am part owner of the site in my sig.
when u start your sites with sig whore fees u r always a sig whore.
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when u start your sites with sig whore fees u r always a sig whore.
See, another dumb post. You have no clue...
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See, another dumb post. You have no clue...
dam i am done toying with people, time for some sleep,
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dam i am done toying with people, time for some sleep,
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Yeah who cares what the sites look like? The difference between a good tour and a shitty one can be nearly unnoticeable.

I've promoted some really ugly ass amateur sites with terrible (to my eye) tours, that converted and retained like motherfuckers since they are REAL.
likewise
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please msg the rest of the GFY gang to come and defend u, fucking crap u people are so dam lame, u dont know how to whipe your asshole with a towelette let alone this industry.

You are acting like a fuckign idiot. Have you been drinking? Has CSW done anythign to you to warant negative publicity? I would love to sit here and tear a strip out of you but since I am no longer affiliated with them, I will just keep my mouth shut beyond what I have to say here and now.

Does it really matter what a webmaster program looks like? Go take a peak at extremepaychecks.com and tell me it's pretty and looks good. It looks like a fuckign 5 year old designed it. But ya know what? it doesn't matter. The stuff converts. It's REAL. I can honnestly say this with proof.

Tam's program may be immature but it's got huge potential. They threw that site up quick, she worked hard building up the network of sites and it shows. If you find it's so horrible why don't YOU tell everyone what needs to be improved if you are so fucking smart.

Not that any of what you say matters. You are purely an idiot from the get go but what is it you know about the INDUSTY? What have YOU done for the industry. What is your calling? I have a feeling your just a typical moron who takes GFY too seriously and still hasen't grown up enough that you are capable of acting like a mature self respecting ADULT let alone able to conduct mature discussions without talkig 16 year old style trash like you have done in what I quoted you saying. Are you so miserable that you cannot conduct constructive conversations online?

Christ, I'm seriously surprised people like you haven't had yer mouthes knocked off yet. You wouldn't last 5 seconds saying this shit in real life without getting decked or sued.
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Oh wow..... I wondered where all the new affiliates were coming from, now I know. This is awesome, MetaMan, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I needed some advertising done but was SOOOOOO wondering how the hell I was going to get it done seeing how I don't gots me no money or anything.......... You have NO idea how much I appreciate this thread. I mean, after 5 years in this industry and such, I was wondering how I was going to pull off getting it out there and seen.

OK SERIOUSLY....... HONEY PLEASE!!!!!!!
You have NO idea who I am or anything about me or you would know that that site and my paysites are NOT flashy and "corporate" for a reason, but did you ask this? NO, you just come in giving me all this free advertising and such.

If YOU don't like the site, move on, if YOU "THINK" the sites don't convert? MOVE ON!!! No one came and asked you or forced you to promote my program or my sites or anything to do with me, and if it isn't your bag, this is all cool......... but don't reduce YOURSELF and make YOU look bad because you simply like to judge books by their cover......

I am not going to sit and hash this and argue with you on ANY level whatsoever, if you don't like it, you don't and I'll not try and convince you that you should...... but I WILL thank you for the business that you have sent me....... I have 9 new Affiliates because of this thread.
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Old 05-04-2004, 04:32 AM   #33
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yes please teach me aslo i am need of another bullshit sponsor,

which one are u?
Have you tried them?

Have you send your traffic there?

No?

Then it's you that should STFU

Thank you drive through
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MetaMan, you must be proud to weild your "sig whore" insults around. Since that seems to be your only one.

"Ooh, he said something I don't like, he must be a sig whore"

Come up with something new. You don't have a friend in this business, much less this thread. No one agrees with you. You've made an ass out of yourself yet again.

You stand behind what you think, that's great. So do we... and we all think you're a retarded little child trying to act tough on a message board with his repetitive sig whore remarks.
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Im not a sig whore, and I think your a fucking tard.
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hahah. Love it.
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they got 50 new affiliates now ;)
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their site http://www.facialangels.com/ looks ok
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You think CSWcash is bad?

Check out www.professorcash.com

Check out the 7 year old content they are using.
Then check out the prices they are charging.

Their sites are so ugly, so bad, that an AVS wouldn't even accept them. What a bunch of fucko's!
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The sites and niches are kinda strange "bite sex", not sure about that one.. But the point is, after so many years in this business I've seen people with beautiful sites close shop within six months, and guys with extremely shitty sites become big players.

Take my friend for instance, he made one site offering livecams and nothing else inside. He charged something like $10/mo, and everything inside was all upsell content. Not to mention the outside he said he designed himself with Frontpage in under 3 hours. Sure I laughed at him, but he ended up BANKING to SIX FIGURES. I couldn't fucking believe it either, but sure enough, keeping it simple paid off.

So sure, these sites just may be crappy, but you never know, they may convert better than sites done by professional designers and affiliate programs.

good post NiteChatDotTV
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Ive seen so much worse. This isnt even worth a thread.

I wouldnt promote the sites, but whatever
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also facialangels has a unique, good looking design. The design remained in my memory by checking it for few seconds and it's very important.
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their site http://www.facialangels.com/ looks ok
I've seen nicer looking DP sites
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The sites and niches are kinda strange "bite sex", not sure about that one.. But the point is, after so many years in this business I've seen people with beautiful sites close shop within six months, and guys with extremely shitty sites become big players.

Take my friend for instance, he made one site offering livecams and nothing else inside. He charged something like $10/mo, and everything inside was all upsell content. Not to mention the outside he said he designed himself with Frontpage in under 3 hours. Sure I laughed at him, but he ended up BANKING to SIX FIGURES. I couldn't fucking believe it either, but sure enough, keeping it simple paid off.

So sure, these sites just may be crappy, but you never know, they may convert better than sites done by professional designers and affiliate programs.

Thank you...... not sure how I missed this one before, but you have said exactly what I have been saying for so damn long. You can give them all the crackerjack stories and hype you want to give them but if you don't give them what they are buying and what you SAY you are selling, then you can put it in all the shiny packages you want to put it in, they may buy, but they aren't going to STAY, and THIS is what I am after. I want them to stay and they get exactly what we say they are going to get......


I just always go back to "keep it simple stupid" and in MOST cases, it DOES work....
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