You wanna know why those soldiers abused the Iraqi prisoners?

[eroswebmaster]

http://www.prisonexp.org/



They did a study at Stanford and had to end it 8 days early because the "gaurds" began to abuse their power.

Even to the point of sexual degredation.

Our planned two-week investigation into the psychology of prison life had to be ended prematurely after only six days because of what the situation was doing to the college students who participated. In only a few days, our guards became sadistic and our prisoners became depressed and showed signs of extreme stress.

[eroswebmaster]

They have the gentleman who ran this experiment on CNN right now and he is saying this is a systemic problem..that exists in an environment that revolves around power.

And incidents like this occur when you have people who feel powerless sitting around for 8 hour shifts with nothing to do but use prisoners as their playthings.

[dropped9]

Its war man... Shit happens... They burn and hang ppl from bridges... We taunt prisioners....

[eroswebmaster]

Originally posted by Headless
Its war man... Shit happens...

Missed the entire point...LOL

This happens in prisons daily...not just in Iraq.

This professor was just saying that the students who were playing the gaurds in this experiment even started making the students who played the prisoners get on the ground and simulate anal sex.

What happens as I stated in another thread is that these people prisoners and pow's alike are not being seen as human beings but as objects.

[eroswebmaster]

People want to blame the gaurds...when it's a managerial issue...but the gaurds should be punished as well they committed the crime.

You can't tell me that wardens in the states and those in control of the prisons in Iraq/Afghanistan don't have a clue that something like this is going on...they do.

[Cassie]

of course they do! we are the one's who could only speculate until now.

imagine what happen to our's in nam (i heard some of the stories first hand and it was more disgusting then those pics i saw). remember somolia?

it happens and usually when it does, people are not so stupid as to get caught.

[ADL Colin]

This is so obvious, it's a shame that you even have to post it, eros. But you do, of course.

People often take roles when placed in similar situations. For example, what do subjugated populations do when "freed"? Do they "learn" that it is wrong to subjugate, torture, and mutilate people? No, they strike back and torture, mutilate and humiliate their old captors.

Ever seen Milgram's studies on obedience?

There's another study, an old one, which shows that boys naturally assumed one of a set of chosen roles when placed together at camp. A pecking order develops with one boy becming a leader, one the leader's sidekick, another the "clown" and so on. When he boys are arbitrarily separated and then placed into new groups - a new pecking order appears. A one-time sidekick might become the leader.

Interesting experiment. Thanks for the link :-)

[Digipimp]

this isn't even the same thing. it's very similar but not the same thing.

[EscortBiz]

WE REALLY DIDNT NEED THIS RIGHT NOW, WHAT A SHAME

[Corleone]

watched a movie about that experiment... ppl get crazy

[eroswebmaster]

Originally posted by Corleone
watched a movie about that experiment... ppl get crazy

I'm thinking about getting the video. It would be interesting to see.