Originally posted by strobi
most TGPs make far more from advertising "around" their galleries than the galleries themselves
most TGPs make far more from advertising "around" their galleries than the galleries themselves
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Agree
I don't endorse a god damn thing......
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good oneOriginally posted by blackmonsters
As conversions continue to fall TGPs are being forced to sell gallery spots to make the long money. Webmasters buying spots will soon see conversions drop so low that there is little profit after bandwidth+content+listings. But TGPs will continue to sell even more spots and getting listed for free will become next to impossible thus causing webmasters to quit posting.
After spot buyers give up on posting there will be no one posting to the TGPs and they will have to use sponsor hosted galleries.
With everybody and his mom using SPHs with low conversions and high bandwidth, sponsors will be forced to kill these galleries. Surfers will become bored with the available free content and traffic on TGPs will die down to the point where the TGP will basically die from lack of profit.
But no problem. Because then the paysites will make more conversions and a new partnership will emerge where sponsors become "content warehouses" where they give webmasters 100k pics and vids to build paysites and take 50%. We all then will be owners of dozens of paysites and once again become wealthy.
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Well, I have to agree with you about gallery posters. I quit taking submissions as soon as I started. I would really like to take submissions but cheaters and goof balls just make it impossible for me. Until the explosion of hosted galleries I was just makeing galleries for my TGP myself. I could definitely approve them faster.Originally posted by Robbie
The Death Of TGP's?
You are ALL wrong!
Hosted Galleries from Sponsors are kicking ass! When I started day to day operation of AMPLAND in 2000 the site was getting about 250,000 uniques a day. And the primary source of income was selling text links.
NOW we are getting close to 800,000 uniques a day and just off of sponsor hosted galleries we are grossing over $750,000 a year! When I add in other ad revenue we are popping WAY over a cool million a year on Ampland.
TGP's Dying?
We just keep growing and growing!
What has died is the sudden glut of thousands upon thousands of former "customers" who suddenly joined affiliate programs and became "webmasters" and started freeloading off of our traffic by having us post their galleries.
I know you might say..."well it was our galleries that kept people coming to your site"
Maybe...but since day one we have made Ampland into WAY more than just galleries. We were the first with daily humor back in '96 and we just keep adding things for people to do.
And as I said...once I got RID of the public submitters...our traffic went through the roof!
Maybe it's because we are honest with the surfers and don't allow pop-ups and don't have any blind links.
I think you might be confusing some of the "fake" tgp's who only exist to blindlink and trade traffic with other "fake" tgp's in a stupid attempt to get big numbers.
The "real" TGP's like us still have top quality traffic. That's why my link spots aren't available to the general public for sale. I keep 'em for myself because they are just too valuable.
No, the TGP's will never die.
But I'm afraid our days of being a FREE SITE are going to come to an end soon.
That's what is really going to happen. The government will very soon shut down ALL free sites.
So the name of this post should be: "The Death Of Free Sites and how it will really happen."
Well how it will really happen is...one day John Ashhahahahaha is just gonna say "Free sites are illegal because ANYONE including CHILDREN can access them."
And the day that happens I will make 3 or 4 million dollars when Ampland becomes the cheapest and biggest pay site on the planet!
It's called "evolution" baby! And the law of un-intended consequences!
I really don't think that TGP will die completely but I have seen a few bite the dust. I think the biggest players will survive. It's going to be like the big search engine battle a few years back.
Eventually only a few will dominate and the rest will be just clinging on to the edge.
So my "Death of TGP" should be considered the same as the "death of SE's". Most died but it's still big biz.Comment
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I also like the way you see it, but something else will come up for sureComment
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Robbie: quit givin' him ideas mang !!Originally posted by the Shemp
you are inspiring me to get rid of my gallery submitters...
good to hear your still doin' good !!
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Very Intelligent Post Robbie!Originally posted by Robbie
The Death Of TGP's?
You are ALL wrong!
Hosted Galleries from Sponsors are kicking ass! When I started day to day operation of AMPLAND in 2000 the site was getting about 250,000 uniques a day. And the primary source of income was selling text links.
NOW we are getting close to 800,000 uniques a day and just off of sponsor hosted galleries we are grossing over $750,000 a year! When I add in other ad revenue we are popping WAY over a cool million a year on Ampland.
TGP's Dying?
We just keep growing and growing!
What has died is the sudden glut of thousands upon thousands of former "customers" who suddenly joined affiliate programs and became "webmasters" and started freeloading off of our traffic by having us post their galleries.
I know you might say..."well it was our galleries that kept people coming to your site"
Maybe...but since day one we have made Ampland into WAY more than just galleries. We were the first with daily humor back in '96 and we just keep adding things for people to do.
And as I said...once I got RID of the public submitters...our traffic went through the roof!
Maybe it's because we are honest with the surfers and don't allow pop-ups and don't have any blind links.
I think you might be confusing some of the "fake" tgp's who only exist to blindlink and trade traffic with other "fake" tgp's in a stupid attempt to get big numbers.
The "real" TGP's like us still have top quality traffic. That's why my link spots aren't available to the general public for sale. I keep 'em for myself because they are just too valuable.
No, the TGP's will never die.
But I'm afraid our days of being a FREE SITE are going to come to an end soon.
That's what is really going to happen. The government will very soon shut down ALL free sites.
So the name of this post should be: "The Death Of Free Sites and how it will really happen."
Well how it will really happen is...one day John Ashhahahahaha is just gonna say "Free sites are illegal because ANYONE including CHILDREN can access them."
And the day that happens I will make 3 or 4 million dollars when Ampland becomes the cheapest and biggest pay site on the planet!
It's called "evolution" baby! And the law of un-intended consequences!
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I think this thread deserves a bump.I'm just a newbie.Comment
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My tgp still works fine and brings money.Comment
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I find that noobs post about "falling conversion rates... blah blah blah". I regularly convert programs at 1:250 RAWS and recently even have a program converting at 1:111 (for the month) RAWS. The only reason dumbasses have high conversion rates is because they are pushing the same programs as a million other webmasters OR pulling a straight up newb trick of putting all kinds of niches on their sites and expecting to make alot of sales.
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Don't run a million sponsors on your new tgp. Don't start a multi-niche tgp if your a newb. Stick to specific niches that not everyone and their brother are promoting and only run a few sponsors on each tgp. BAM! Did that hurt your head?Last edited by nation-x; 05-13-2008, 01:28 PM.Comment
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Since everyone is bumping old threads today, I'd like to take this oppotunity to
apologise to all TGP owners for saying that TGPs were going to die.Comment
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No source of traffic will ever go away, it will be either modified or just continue being good but in this game theres always someone buyingComment
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