US Military Deployments In 130 Countries - What's Wrong With This Picture? - GoFuckYourself.com

KRL · 05-02-2004, 04:49 PM

Isn't it time we adjust the troop deployments in countries that were figured based on threats dating 50 years ago?

These current numbers are a tremendous waste of resources when our guys are getting overwhelmed in Iraq.

The US currently has its military forces deployed in 130 countries around the world.

75,000 US Troops Are In Germany. Why?

41,000 US Troops Are In Japan. Why?

41,000 US Troops Are In South Korea. (OK we need some here, but come on 41,000???)

17,000 On Ships Near South Korea. (OK we need some here also, but 17,000???)

13,000 US Troops Are In Italy. Why?

12,000 US Troops Are In The UK. Why?

You might think we're still worried about the Soviet Union and China doing nation building.

Another interesting stat. Only 300,000 of the US Military's 1.4 million active duty personnel are trained for war zone combat operations.

The current cost of our military is $1.1 Billion per Day.

Time to change the allocations and leadership of the US Military. Its plagued with mismanagement and waste.

Your thoughts?

bllott · 05-02-2004, 04:50 PM

so that you can drive your SUV around without paying for gas with your life in the next 50 years

Digipimp · 05-02-2004, 04:50 PM

thanks mr rumsfeld. don't worry alot of those troops will be shifting to rotations in iraq when we setup our new bases there.

herbal logic · 05-02-2004, 04:52 PM

over stretched.... and its going to come back and get us it where it hurts.

can we fight 3 wars simultaneously? I think not

420 · 05-02-2004, 04:52 PM

where's the picture?

Pleasurepays · 05-02-2004, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Isn't it time we adjust the troop deployments in countries that were figured based on threats dating 50 years ago?

These current numbers are a tremendous waste of resources when our guys are getting overwhelmed in Iraq.

The US currently has its military forces deployed in 130 countries around the world.

75,000 US Troops Are In Germany. Why?

41,000 US Troops Are In Japan. Why?

41,000 US Troops Are In South Korea. (OK we need some here, but come on 41,000???)

17,000 On Ships Near South Korea. (OK we need some here also, but 17,000???)

13,000 US Troops Are In Italy. Why?

12,000 US Troops Are In The UK. Why?

You might think we're still worried about the Soviet Union and China doing nation building.

Another interesting stat. Only 300,000 of the US Military's 1.4 million active duty personnel are trained for war zone combat operations.

The current cost of our military is $1.1 Billion per Day.

Time to change the allocations and leadership of the US Military. Its plagued with mismanagement and waste.

Your thoughts?

they have already began addressing this issue. i remember Rumsfeld speaking about this very thing about a year ago.

KRL · 05-02-2004, 04:53 PM

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Originally posted by Mystery Man
KRL whats the source of these numbers?
I find those numbers are bit extreme
but not saying they aint true but please post the source.

Source:

Center For Strategic & Budgetary Assements based on data from the Defense Department, Congressional Budget Office, and the White House Office of Management & Budget.

Argoz · 05-02-2004, 04:54 PM

It's for the peace...

AMADude · 05-02-2004, 04:54 PM

I know for sure they are still worried be time about China, but I a gree we are spread way too thin.

KRL · 05-02-2004, 04:54 PM

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Originally posted by Pixhell
It's for the peace...

Seems more like its for war to be candidly honest.

KRL · 05-02-2004, 04:55 PM

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Originally posted by AMADude
I know for sure they are still worried be time about China, but I a gree we are spread way too thin.

China is one of our biggest trading partners. The last thing China is going to do is fuck with its biggest customer and the last thing we're going to do is fuck with one of our biggest supplier of slave labor manufactured goods.

Digipimp · 05-02-2004, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
China is one of our biggest trading partners. The last thing China is going to do is fuck with its biggest customer and the last thing we're going to do is fuck with one of our biggest supplier of slave labor goods.

Yeah all these people have no clue, it's little known or talked about but King George has eased things with China even more than Clinton did and that's saying a lot.

herbal logic · 05-02-2004, 04:57 PM

canada leaks socialism!

KRL · 05-02-2004, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mystery Man
post the source (url)

http://www.csbaonline.org/

BradM · 05-02-2004, 04:58 PM

Gotta keep the pimp hand strong!

DaLord · 05-02-2004, 04:59 PM

Well it's not Sudan, Russia nor Germany, Spain or Latvia who's starting the wars.

Must be the will to waste billions of money on keep pissing people off and from that, paranoia.

JOKER · 05-02-2004, 04:59 PM

You forgot a couple thousand in FORT BONDSTEEL,Kosovo...

The land has been paid for 99 years btw.

You want to know why?

Simple,cause it's cheaper.

Been to Kosovo myself for 6 months and have grown up in Heidelberg,Germany... I've seen how many there are

There is no point other than $$ for having so many troops stationed outside the US.

Take care,

JOKER

JOKER · 05-02-2004, 05:07 PM

A few facts about Fort Bondsteel:

Quote:

Construction of Fort Bondsteel begin in the summer of 1999.
?The United States immediately - and without any permission from anybody -
seized a large area of Gnjilane county to built largest army base in the Balkans.?
(Diane Johnstone)
It covers between 775 and 800 acres.
It includes a Burger King, two chapels, a library, fitness club, volleyball court, hospital,
movie theatre, as well as SEA Hut accommodation for troops, drywalled barracks
with electric wiring and air conditioning.
It has an ammunition site and a helicopter pad capable of serving Apache (offensive)
helicopters (up to 55 helicopters)
It is large enough to accommodate an aircraft runway.
The cost of the initial phase was $32 million. At a later point in construction the
cost had risen to $36.6 million. It is not known at this time what the final cost will
be.
Various commentaries that it ?could last a generation,? ?will last for many years to
come,? ?The United States is taking advantage of this opportunity to build a base
spacious enough to provide future needs,? ?We just don?t know how long we will
be here,? (this latter is by Shawn Sullivan, political advisor to General Craig Peterson,
the camp?s commanding officer).

If anyone want to read the whole article:

http://www.suc.org/projects/Kosovo/h...o2000Part3.pdf

Take care,

JOKER

warlock5 · 05-02-2004, 05:09 PM

If we've still got troops in Germany in Japan since WWII, think about how long we'll be in Iraq!

JOKER · 05-02-2004, 05:11 PM

Since I find this totally amazing,since I've seen it myself,here a pic that might give you an idea:

Pretty impressing,huh?

Steve

KRL · 05-02-2004, 05:13 PM

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Originally posted by JOKEREMPIRE
Since I find this totally amazing,since I've seen it myself,here a pic that might give you an idea:

Pretty impressing,huh?

Steve

That is amazing. I've never seen that release in the US media before. Classic example of what I posted about.

KRL · 05-02-2004, 05:15 PM

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Originally posted by warlock5
If we've still got troops in Germany in Japan since WWII, think about how long we'll be in Iraq!

Maybe they're worried the ghost of Adolph Hilter will return.

75,000 troops in Germany is so ridiculous its beyond ridiculous.

zzgundamnzz · 05-02-2004, 05:31 PM

Theres a reason for them being all over the world.

1. Nuclear weapon - Don't want all of our troops getting wasted by just one.

2. Presence/Swift Deployment - To be able to go anywhere and everywhere at a moments notice. Lets say theres trouble in a far off region... can we really wait over a week to transfer all the troops and vehicles all the way from the US to that region?

JOKER · 05-02-2004, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zzgundamnzz
Theres a reason for them being all over the world.

1. Nuclear weapon - Don't want all of our troops getting wasted by just one.

2. Presence/Swift Deployment - To be able to go anywhere and everywhere at a moments notice. Lets say theres trouble in a far off region... can we really wait over a week to transfer all the troops and vehicles all the way from the US to that region?

Interesting point...

fucking whore · 05-02-2004, 05:34 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
Maybe they're worried the ghost of Adolph Hilter will return.

75,000 troops in Germany is so ridiculous its beyond ridiculous.

its a staging base, transport base & medical base.

its where troops group for war and rotate out.

its a good location, they should stay there and make sure the eu doesnt get any funny ideas

reynold · 05-02-2004, 05:53 PM

This whole war thing sucks!

BlueDesignStudios · 05-02-2004, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Maybe they're worried the ghost of Adolph Hilter will return.

75,000 troops in Germany is so ridiculous its beyond ridiculous.

EviLGuY · 05-02-2004, 06:08 PM

The military doesn't worry about making sense, or spending 1.1 billion dollars a day.

I agree 75,000 troops in Germany seems.. foolish at this point. I guess its a regional thing?

erehwon · 05-02-2004, 06:12 PM

12,000 US Troops Are In The UK.

You can chalk a number for the 550+ acre Menwith Hill listening post.

BRISK · 05-02-2004, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
The current cost of our military is $1.1 Billion per Day.

DWB · 05-02-2004, 06:17 PM

Strategic areas.

We have to be able to react quickly to anything that goes wrong on earth because it is apparently our job to fix everything. Besides, who is going to mess with us when we have a base in their backyard?

Steen2 · 05-02-2004, 06:18 PM

75k in Germany?

lol

KRL · 05-02-2004, 07:14 PM

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Originally posted by erehwon
12,000 US Troops Are In The UK.

You can chalk a number for the 550+ acre Menwith Hill listening post.

Menwith is one of the NSA "Echelon" hubs.

If people only knew what they're scooping up over there they'd be in complete disbelief.

KRL · 05-02-2004, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fucking whore
its a staging base, transport base & medical base.

its where troops group for war and rotate out.

its a good location, they should stay there and make sure the eu doesnt get any funny ideas

staging base for what? WWIII

The Cold War is fucking over.

Come on that excuse is getting real real old.

newsdude · 05-02-2004, 07:43 PM

Why do you think US is such a powerful country?

theking · 05-02-2004, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Isn't it time we adjust the troop deployments in countries that were figured based on threats dating 50 years ago?

These current numbers are a tremendous waste of resources when our guys are getting overwhelmed in Iraq.

The US currently has its military forces deployed in 130 countries around the world.

75,000 US Troops Are In Germany. Why?

41,000 US Troops Are In Japan. Why?

41,000 US Troops Are In South Korea. (OK we need some here, but come on 41,000???)

17,000 On Ships Near South Korea. (OK we need some here also, but 17,000???)

13,000 US Troops Are In Italy. Why?

12,000 US Troops Are In The UK. Why?

You might think we're still worried about the Soviet Union and China doing nation building.

Another interesting stat. Only 300,000 of the US Military's 1.4 million active duty personnel are trained for war zone combat operations.

The current cost of our military is $1.1 Billion per Day.

Time to change the allocations and leadership of the US Military. Its plagued with mismanagement and waste.

Your thoughts?

Easy answer...it is called forward positioning.

theking · 05-02-2004, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by newsdude
Why do you think US is such a powerful country?

Yes...forward positioning is a major contributor.

goBigtime · 05-03-2004, 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL

Time to change the allocations and leadership of the US Military. Its plagued with mismanagement and waste.

Your thoughts?

I thought all levels of government were plagued with mismanagement and waste?

It's all about buying $400 staplers from your buddies, getting your cayman island kickbacks, and putting the burden of paying back those fraudulent transactions on the the next few generations of poor people.

goBigtime · 05-03-2004, 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
China is one of our biggest trading partners. The last thing China is going to do is fuck with its biggest customer and the last thing we're going to do is fuck with one of our biggest supplier of slave labor manufactured goods.

I really don't know much about world economics... but i was talking to a friend of mine the other day and she was talking about how people in China are getting rich (by their standards? by our standards?) from all the dealins they do with us and the rest of the world.

She also said that they have been buying up all the worlds steel for years.... saying its to build cars or something.

China is a scary bitch.

KRL · 05-03-2004, 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by goBigtime
I really don't know much about world economics... but i was talking to a friend of mine the other day and she was talking about how people in China are getting rich (by their standards? by our standards?) from all the dealins they do with us and the rest of the world.

She also said that they have been buying up all the worlds steel for years.... saying its to build cars or something.

China is a scary bitch.

Indeed, one of the reasons why in the recent NSA employment drive they're putting a great deal of emphasis on "Arab & Chinese linguists".

goBigtime · 05-03-2004, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Indeed, one of the reasons why in the recent NSA employment drive they're putting a great deal of emphasis on "Arab & Chinese linguists".

Even scarier that they hadn't already been doing this

I was just reading an article about that China steel producing situation ( I guess its producing via tons of large steel mills.. not buying.. or maybe its both)...anyway, the article was talking about how they are fucking up our steel industry here because of the glut of steel on the market.

So picture this....

China makes/buys/hoards a shitload of steel... ruining the global market & forcing many US steel companies to close their doors.

In the mean time, China may or may not have been 'sitting on' that steel at all.. and instead they could have been building tanks, planes, ships etc...

Of course this is just latenight paranoid conspiracy psychobabble....

Tania · 05-03-2004, 05:18 AM

nice pic

jimmyf · 05-03-2004, 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Maybe they're worried the ghost of Adolph Hilter will return.

75,000 troops in Germany is so ridiculous its beyond ridiculous.

It's Nato we are a member of that Org. Nato says how many troops we will have in Europe, and the kind of Troops, the number of Air planes ect

dready · 05-03-2004, 06:32 AM

Ummm... it's so the US can keep the world destabilized enough that it can maintain control and domination... what are you new?

Basic_man · 05-03-2004, 06:40 AM

Where is the fuckin' picture?

TheFrog · 05-03-2004, 06:46 AM

thats fucked up, i guess its just in case anything happens

mpulse · 05-03-2004, 08:01 AM

You really can't think about it as overstretched...these troops are in prime locations for deployment and it puts them closer to where things may occur. During Desert Storm, a majority of planes routed through these places and so were troops. Makes for quicker response and mobilization. If all were in the U.S. and something broke out in Syria, we would shend so much more time and $$ getting people over there. As it stands, Europe is closer to the Middle East than we are...

JFK · 05-03-2004, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by herbal logic
over stretched.... and its going to come back and get us it where it hurts.

can we fight 3 wars simultaneously? I think not

cant even do one right , look at what is happening in Iraq

mpulse · 05-03-2004, 09:04 AM

50 troops in Antartica

VeriSexy · 05-03-2004, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Isn't it time we adjust the troop deployments in countries that were figured based on threats dating 50 years ago?

These current numbers are a tremendous waste of resources when our guys are getting overwhelmed in Iraq.

The US currently has its military forces deployed in 130 countries around the world.

75,000 US Troops Are In Germany. Why?

41,000 US Troops Are In Japan. Why?

41,000 US Troops Are In South Korea. (OK we need some here, but come on 41,000???)

17,000 On Ships Near South Korea. (OK we need some here also, but 17,000???)

13,000 US Troops Are In Italy. Why?

12,000 US Troops Are In The UK. Why?

You might think we're still worried about the Soviet Union and China doing nation building.

Another interesting stat. Only 300,000 of the US Military's 1.4 million active duty personnel are trained for war zone combat operations.

The current cost of our military is $1.1 Billion per Day.

Time to change the allocations and leadership of the US Military. Its plagued with mismanagement and waste.

Your thoughts?

Cost of policing the world is not cheap

05-02-2004, 04:49 PM	#1
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	US Military Deployments In 130 Countries - What's Wrong With This Picture? Isn't it time we adjust the troop deployments in countries that were figured based on threats dating 50 years ago? These current numbers are a tremendous waste of resources when our guys are getting overwhelmed in Iraq. The US currently has its military forces deployed in 130 countries around the world. 75,000 US Troops Are In Germany. Why? 41,000 US Troops Are In Japan. Why? 41,000 US Troops Are In South Korea. (OK we need some here, but come on 41,000???) 17,000 On Ships Near South Korea. (OK we need some here also, but 17,000???) 13,000 US Troops Are In Italy. Why? 12,000 US Troops Are In The UK. Why? You might think we're still worried about the Soviet Union and China doing nation building. Another interesting stat. Only 300,000 of the US Military's 1.4 million active duty personnel are trained for war zone combat operations. The current cost of our military is $1.1 Billion per Day. Time to change the allocations and leadership of the US Military. Its plagued with mismanagement and waste. Your thoughts? __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

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