I thought all american's were big and fat?

they're russians :Graucho ok only one of them ;) say hello to sergej

they don't count though,


















in this tread.:winkwink:

These are good observations. US's free market economy allows anyone to possibly be the next Bill Gates. In Europe, there is still a class system - unless you are born into money, its difficult to attain - and if you do attain they will tax most of it away from you. So there is not much motivation to go beyond normal work.

Very nice post :thumbsup

Btw Webby whats your ICQ number ?

haha this thread was started about 4 months ago ! :1orglaugh

If American were hard workers, they wouldn't let illegal immigrants work here

polish_aristocrat speaks the truth! :2 cents: Good job, chief.

As for all the "obese" "Americans don't work hard, they're fat" comments. Well guess what, you're completely right. We don't work hard, we work smart. Since when does a business owner, or someone self employed (for that matter) have to endure the vigors of hard labor? People often have this misconception as if you need to throw bricks around, in the hot sun, for it to be a "real job". A real job, makes real money. Regardless of what it requires.

The people who agree with that load of BS are the same people who believe that terrorists hate you because of your "freedom".

Great point. We should have stayed home in the 1940's. I have no problem with all of Europe speaking German.

Himmel, Arsch und Zwirn! :1orglaugh

Let's ask the non-American webmasters here where their internet businesses would be if access to their sites were limited to only their own country.

Most of you would be out of business overnight if you couldn't sell products and services worldwide.

so? Notice the magic word? "Worldwide"
USA is one country. I wouldn't be out of business if USA closed it's borders.

That's not the point. I said EVERY country but your own.

Your location says Finland. Could you stay in business online at the level you are now if you were limited to selling ONLY to other people in Finland? I think not.

Why not? I'd adjust.

:1orglaugh Of coarse he could, anyone could adjust if they wanted to. Matt you have a real ignorant attitude :glugglug

And myths are not as prevalent in Europe either.

Sorry. Couldn't resist. Your statement would have been true in the 50's and 60's. But since then things have changed and over the past 20 years in the US, you have been 3-4 times more likely to slip down the economic ladder than to climb up it (ie to move from one distinct economic group to another). And while it is still very possible for people to better themselves within a single economic group, fewer than 1% who start out as middle class ever make it up to the group above.

The separation of rich and poor in the US has passed most of Europe and the gap is still widening.

This old thread still alive??? :1orglaugh

OK... Might as well answer the crap :-)

RocHard:

Tho it took long enough for the US to actually get engaged in WW2 - like Pearl Harbor and Hitler's plans for world domination - those already fighting appreciated US involvement.

The point is, the US has fucked in other people's business since it's founding, with something like 240 "invasions" to "free the world" or some other bullshit. Of these, it is doubious 20-40 were actually valid in any way.

From the quote, it seems some don't recognize a "real war" from the many phony one's :winkwink:

BTW Iraq is not on that list of "real wars" - that just upped the invasion count to about 241 ...

hahaha so true

I think you are right mate! :thumbsup

You can't look at America's poor when judging America. Most of those people are of not only a different economic class but also a different social class that does not change with their income. That's why they remain failures.

Poor people are less likely to move up economically in the US because of what's going on in those neighborhoods that has NOTHING to do with anyone but themselves. 30% and higher high school dropout rates. Crime for sport. Gang activity for the hell of it. etc... MOST of America does not get caught up in that mess.

I wasn't looking only at America's poor although it is a fact that very few indeed make it to the the middle class and you may be right as to why. But the statement that you are "3-4 times more likely to slip down the economic ladder" (in relation to your parents' economic status) refered solely to the middle class. And it is the middle class which is shrinking.

You can consider it good, bad, or of no consequence, but one of the differences between the US and Europe is not the divide between the wealthiest and the poorest (those stats are similar), but that a much higher ratio of people in the US are poor. Thus the middle class is smaller, but wealthier on a per head basis. That could be part of the reason why it is taking so long for the "work hard my son and you can be anything you want" myth to die.

Of course some individuals do go from rags to riches. But the US is no longer the entrepreneur-friendly country it once was and overall, the statistics for upward movement are now pretty much in line with other developed countries.

In the US people are very competive and they work hard.


ever been in US?

latisha johnson puts about 30 minutes a day ans still gets her paycheck....

get real !!!!

But they all became American citizens

:flagface :flagface :flagface

I dont see anything wrong with that. :thumbsup

posts like this are why the US isnt no 1

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

the reason the US is no 1 ia because all the great hackers and wise businessman is here...
man wake up...come live up here a while and you'll realize that US is just like ever country out there...full of shit

it does not really make it that commendable

bill gates is not the best example, he only proof that american only cares about money no matter if it works or not, which is not 100% true in all the areas of researching, so get a better example, because this one destroy your theory

So true