50 ppl saying us is not the no1 hehe

BigFish,

Can you please tell me who make it possible for the US to lend as much as they do? (and don't answer 'the banks' :) )

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That's your obective fact? You're saying if the U.S. defaults on the debt, then the other countries will just take over the U.S.?? Are you kidding? On the other companies, THEY ARE U.S. owned. You need to differentiate between DEBT, CAPITAL, and EQUITY. And what do you mean some originated in the U.S. All of them orginated here kid.

you guys just have loads of cash and know how to outsource :)

ControlThy:

Na!! Don't EVEN THINK OF GOING THERE!!! :1orglaugh

If you are talking about "US Aid" - almost all Western countries give more aid as a % GDP than the US. The other strange thing is .. this "aid" is always tied to some deal :-)

An example.. 100 million to Zambia as "aid" - in comes a deal on condition of the aid which means "We give you $100 million in aid and you give us $200 million in diamonds" (or whatever). I'd be please to give aid all day long on those terms :winkwink:

The other irony is... who damned financed the aid in the first place - cos the US ain't got any "real" money? Guess!! :1orglaugh

Nice one was the "aid to Israel... to "support an ally". Pull that aid contract out and it says "We will give you $X billion aid and in turn you will give us a nice contract worth $X billion for us to supply you will gunships and arms" Pathetic hyprocracy from a load of arms dealers purporting to be a nation of the "righteous" :1orglaugh

Sadly.. that supposed "on-the-side-of-God" benevolent aid bullshit is a misused term for "greedy consuming assholes" :-)

What do you mean don't answer banks? You think everyone stuffs money under their mattresses or something?

I wish to God I could get my ex-wife to let me take my son to another country, away from the pressures that exist in this one. I love this country. But when you have a child and love that child, this country becomes a very scary place. I'd rather see my son live a nice, tranquil life as a postman in a country with no enemies, than to live the life of a billionaire in this country. We have been creating more enemies every single day.

I will stand behind my President, no matter who he is, even if I disagree with his policies. That is the right thing to do in a Democracy. Once you make a decision (selection, some say), you need to stand behind your decision. It's almost time to make a decision again about who will lead. I'll make my vote, then stand behind the decision made by the country.

BUT: the rights that are being taken from me on an almost daily basis, along with the enemies my government is making, scare the shit out of me for my son's sake.

BIgFish:

DUH?? Who said anything about the US defaulting on it's debts?? Or "other countries will just take over the US"?? They don't want to take over the US - they want paid.

If that happens, the US will be supported further - it's what happens to corps that get in the shit.

The only difference is.. and that's happening now - the lenders are becoming "wary" and want more "precise" figures - like... simple facts.

Never get this silly idea that any country is infallible - that includes the US. The fact that others have been invited to be shareholders means they want dividends in return - so keep working hard!

OK.. I've done a number of predictions over the last few years on GFY - even when I got flamed for saying so :-) BUT- they have all come to pass. Here is one - within the next one to two decades (unless there is some "miracle"!) - the US $ will be worth half of it's current value, or less and the ripple effect will be substantial. The US economy will be "nothing" on even it's current low level and, in effect, be a "service economy". I'd reserve that job at McDonald's while you can :-)

That's me finished talking shit! I'm off!!:thumbsup

DonovanPhillips:

Hell.. I can hear ya loud and clear and understand where you are coming from!

I don't live in the US now, but my experiences were not bad at that time tho I was shown some "not so good stuff" by .. "government officers" who ... I can remember the words *exactly* today from one of them. "I don't think any human being was mean't to witness this". But otherwise I liked the place.

Bottom line??? It's ALL about lifestyle and what "you" want!! :-) Some places are so far apart from "civilized societies" it is hard to believe they still exist.

We are based in one at the moment - and have to say the people are "genuinely" friendly and even the cops are friends who will get their jackets off to help. The whole aura is nothing like the US - it's the other extreme. There are actually more teachers than cops - it's just "different" and much more laid back.

I bought a lump of land here - we can see LOADS of wildlife - three types of monkeys, parrots, tucans and lots of other stuff. Right now - it's time to go on the horse along a totally deserted beach with palms along the shoreline - just a great place for kids!! :-) I wish to hell I'd made a move years ago! *lol* Ya have one life and every year/day matters :-)

It's also "excellent" for any webmaster!! Ya gotta do some persuading with your ex!! :winkwink:

Other bit Donovan is that you meet far more interesting people!:-)

They have often already "achieved" elsewhere and "escaped" - a few are "webmasters". one is a heart surgeon who invented some valve, another is a hahahahahar, another a movie producer. There is a "trio" who make a load of these TV ad's that get awards - they ship out to New York/London, shoot the ads and escape back to "paradise" :-) One is a war photographer - he is currently raking over the rubble in Falujah :-) It hits you in the face that this lot is "different" and they all have a story to tell :-)

It kinda makes it "interesting" in the bar!! :winkwink:

:1orglaugh but true

There are many different factors. Sure hard work is among them but it's not one of the most important things.

1) They're not shy about spending money to attract successfull foreigners to the US.
2) They get cheap labor from Mexico.
3) They have good business and marketing skills.
4) They need to work hard in order to be able to survive unlike around here where you get important things for free.
5) Unlike many other countries, until recently they didn't feel threatened by buying cheap products from other countries, outsourcing and so on. If they now feel threatened and change there policy on the economy, it won't be good for the US.
6) A strong dollar brings lots of development and research.

In short when it comes to businesses, they have a whole lotta less restrictions than other western countries and they won't penalise you for making more money. Now that's what's most important. If they change to change course and go with conservatism instead like other countries, it'll be a disaster for the US. Being scared won't get you far.

well written post :thumbsup

The US is in a transition..... WW2 generation fucked their kids up, in turn their kids are even more fucked up. We've kinda given up on hard work. Besides free trade agreements and pollution concerns has eliminated a lo of 'hard' jobs in our country. We were propelled to the forefront by hard work. We blew the rest of the world outta the water by cashing in on WW2. We are gonna be fucked within 60 years. I'll move. Gonna move soon if more of my civil liberties get violated.

EDIT: and yes we are immature and yes we feel we are better than everyone. Most of the time we are right... maybe not always.

1 month = 30 days
2 months = 60 days ;)

bump. :winkwink: @ polish

The US is certainly #1 in many respects, but by no means all. Regardless, I don't recognize the stereotypes that the guy who started this thread wrote about.

The main reason the US is wealthy (and most of its other claims to fame stem from that wealth) is simply that is a relatively young nation. The land and other natural resources produced riches there has not yet been time to dissipate. The impact has been all the greater because the rise of the US coincided with the decline of many other countries. And of course that wealth is still sloshing around now, so no-one needs to be a historian to be aware of it.

But inevitably the pendulum keeps swinging. Japanese companies now own around one-third of the big farming operations in the mid-West. A lot of prime real estate, especially in city areas such as Manhattan is foreign-owned. Billions of dollars of stocks belong to overseas owners. That apart, some of the biggest media corporations are Japanese, German and Australian. Only 24 of the top 50 manufacturing companies are US based. Perhaps most seriously, some analysts argue that the US banking system is technically bankrupt.

For all its success and glitter, the US is badly flawed. It has among the poorest healthcare and education systems of any first-world country. The equivalent of a large town lives homeless in its capital city alone. Crime is high. The roads are dangerous. The environment is increasingly polluted. And for reasons I wish I had the time and knowledge to research, the US at least seems to produce more crazies, especially dangerous crazies, than any other nation.

Someone wrote in a thread here a few days ago, something along the lines that Americans are not stupid, but they don't like to think too much. Perhaps rather than learning from the past, that is why the US is following the exact same path as every other formerly great nation: one that leads ultimately to decline.

yeah, riiiiiiiiight.



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Very much appreciated, thank you.

What drugs are you people on?

lol. But he has 1000,s of employees working for him.

Woah you found big US companies.
Every fucking country has worthwhile companies if you're bothered to list them.

The US is number 1 because of what Sam Kinison said:


We have the food, we have the army. You have to be nice to us becuase if you don't then we'll make you go hungry and then kick your fucking ass.

he's fat now

What a load of bollocks, America rules 'fuck all', just another indication of how fucked up the Americans are, LOL you really believe that shit don't you, America - only $658,000,000,000 in debt... the richest nation

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Keep believing ... and Santa, Easter bunny, Spiderman .....

40 days of vacation does equal two months. Saturdays and Sundays are not computed in counting what is a vacation day.

There have been alot of good points brought up as to the problems in the US domestic and foreign policy. No country that has the standing in the world the US has gets to this level without problems. Despite this, the shining moments far outweigh the tarnished ones, and if you were creating a list of all the ways the USA has helped the world versus hurt the world, it would be a lopsided list indeed. People talk of problems like Iraq and use it as a source to hate my country, but let there be a crisis, like a fascist invasion of a peaceful neighbor, or devastating natural or man made disaster... and you can bet the house that either the USA govt or a USA based aid organization will be there with their hand out. Its gotten to the point that people take it for granted.

I love this country and I am proud to call it my home. All you USA haters can kiss my ass.

that's what I thought :1orglaugh

For your information everyone loves their own nation the most. There's absolutely no way in hell you can convince us otherwise. You tend to think that everyone who thinks their country is the best is a USA hater. You seriously need to pull your head away from your asses and realize there's things outside your borders, and people who don't give a flying fuck about you.

The USA population seems to think that they are superior in every way and are priviledged to live in such a wonderful country, when the fact is almost all western countries are just as 'free' and 'wonderful'. It wouldn't bother me the slightltest but you have some obsessions on bashing people who think differently and trying to convince everyone on how superior you guys are.. do you REALLY think that will actually make you look better on the worlds eyes?

Now.. carry on. I'm just disgusted by topics like this...and the people posting garbage in these.


ps. lol scoreman, this rambling wasn't personally addressed to you. :)

China will soon take the leading spot

I thought all american's were big and fat?

they're russians :Graucho ok only one of them ;) say hello to sergej

they don't count though,


















in this tread.:winkwink:

These are good observations. US's free market economy allows anyone to possibly be the next Bill Gates. In Europe, there is still a class system - unless you are born into money, its difficult to attain - and if you do attain they will tax most of it away from you. So there is not much motivation to go beyond normal work.

Very nice post :thumbsup

Btw Webby whats your ICQ number ?

haha this thread was started about 4 months ago ! :1orglaugh

If American were hard workers, they wouldn't let illegal immigrants work here

polish_aristocrat speaks the truth! :2 cents: Good job, chief.

As for all the "obese" "Americans don't work hard, they're fat" comments. Well guess what, you're completely right. We don't work hard, we work smart. Since when does a business owner, or someone self employed (for that matter) have to endure the vigors of hard labor? People often have this misconception as if you need to throw bricks around, in the hot sun, for it to be a "real job". A real job, makes real money. Regardless of what it requires.

The people who agree with that load of BS are the same people who believe that terrorists hate you because of your "freedom".

Great point. We should have stayed home in the 1940's. I have no problem with all of Europe speaking German.

Himmel, Arsch und Zwirn! :1orglaugh

Let's ask the non-American webmasters here where their internet businesses would be if access to their sites were limited to only their own country.

Most of you would be out of business overnight if you couldn't sell products and services worldwide.

so? Notice the magic word? "Worldwide"
USA is one country. I wouldn't be out of business if USA closed it's borders.

That's not the point. I said EVERY country but your own.

Your location says Finland. Could you stay in business online at the level you are now if you were limited to selling ONLY to other people in Finland? I think not.

Why not? I'd adjust.

:1orglaugh Of coarse he could, anyone could adjust if they wanted to. Matt you have a real ignorant attitude :glugglug

And myths are not as prevalent in Europe either.

Sorry. Couldn't resist. Your statement would have been true in the 50's and 60's. But since then things have changed and over the past 20 years in the US, you have been 3-4 times more likely to slip down the economic ladder than to climb up it (ie to move from one distinct economic group to another). And while it is still very possible for people to better themselves within a single economic group, fewer than 1% who start out as middle class ever make it up to the group above.

The separation of rich and poor in the US has passed most of Europe and the gap is still widening.

This old thread still alive??? :1orglaugh

OK... Might as well answer the crap :-)

RocHard:

Tho it took long enough for the US to actually get engaged in WW2 - like Pearl Harbor and Hitler's plans for world domination - those already fighting appreciated US involvement.

The point is, the US has fucked in other people's business since it's founding, with something like 240 "invasions" to "free the world" or some other bullshit. Of these, it is doubious 20-40 were actually valid in any way.

From the quote, it seems some don't recognize a "real war" from the many phony one's :winkwink:

BTW Iraq is not on that list of "real wars" - that just upped the invasion count to about 241 ...

hahaha so true

I think you are right mate! :thumbsup