My International Labor Day message: ABOLISH TRADE UNIONS - GoFuckYourself.com

Mr. Marks · 04-30-2004, 06:56 PM

Labor unions protect the weak, the lazy, the dumb, and those who lack ambition.

To be fair, trade unions have brought some benefits to the working person... like fucked up union dues, higher inflation, crippled domestic industries because of inelastic wage structures, soaring health care premiums

But really... its time to do away with this monstrosity of the 1800s and let every individual employee bargain their way to higher wages. If you're worth it, you'll get it. If not, you are just a parasite and should either go back to school or somehow increase your marketable skills.

Let the free market decide.

I'm assuming most of you own your own businesses so you would agree with many of these points. If not, then you may be a weak sheep that believes in shaking down management for benefits you don't deserve.

High Quality · 04-30-2004, 07:01 PM

Follow juicy's advice and cease posting...

Mr. Marks · 04-30-2004, 07:04 PM

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Originally posted by High Quality
Follow juicy's advice and cease posting...

Follow my advice and DIE immediately

Evil Chris · 04-30-2004, 07:06 PM

Why the fuck did I just read all that?

Mr. Marks · 04-30-2004, 07:07 PM

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Originally posted by Evil Chris
Why the fuck did I just read all that?

Because you agree?

emmanuelle · 04-30-2004, 08:53 PM

Workers who belong to unions:
-earn higher wages
-receive better training
-work fewer hours
-have longer job tenure
-live longer

Union membership also closes the wage gap between women and men and fights discrimination.

Read the world bank report at http://www.walmartworkerscanada.com/WB_union_rep.pdf

Juicy D. Links · 04-30-2004, 08:54 PM

Mr. Marks · 04-30-2004, 08:56 PM

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Originally posted by juicylinks

That chick is SERIOUSLY tweaking.

My guess would be GHB or Ecstacy

candidpublishinginc · 04-30-2004, 09:07 PM

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Originally posted by emmanuelle
Workers who belong to unions:
-earn higher wages
-receive better training
-work fewer hours
-have longer job tenure
-live longer

Union membership also closes the wage gap between women and men and fights discrimination.

Read the world bank report at http://www.walmartworkerscanada.com/WB_union_rep.pdf

Unions can also hurt businesses because they are forced to keep employees they no longer need due to new technologies which replace certain employee functions.

A good example is what unions did to California's ship ports. Many 3rd world countries have better and more efficient ship port terminals because they don't have a union forcing them to keep employees that could easily be replaced by a machine.

If a worker wants to have a better life, wage, and job....they should go get educated rather then fall back on a union.

emmanuelle · 04-30-2004, 09:15 PM

Sweatshops are profitable too I hear...

the Shemp · 04-30-2004, 09:18 PM

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Originally posted by papichulo
Labor unions protect the weak, the lazy, the dumb, and those who lack ambition.

To be fair, trade unions have brought some benefits to the working person... like fucked up union dues, higher inflation, crippled domestic industries because of inelastic wage structures, soaring health care premiums

But really... its time to do away with this monstrosity of the 1800s and let every individual employee bargain their way to higher wages. If you're worth it, you'll get it. If not, you are just a parasite and should either go back to school or somehow increase your marketable skills.

Let the free market decide.

I'm assuming most of you own your own businesses so you would agree with many of these points. If not, then you may be a weak sheep that believes in shaking down management for benefits you don't deserve.

in the words of my mentor, Saul Alinsky..... "the people that do the work, control the job"

Mr. Marks · 04-30-2004, 09:21 PM

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Originally posted by the Shemp
in the words of my mentor, Saul Alinsky..... "the people that do the work, control the job"

Good point. However, capital (if the economics are correct) would rather buy a machine than labor. Perhaps, with the rapid evolution of technology, labor and capital (ie., machinery) are more and more interchangeable. Unfortunately, oftentimes labor unions stand in the way of this efficient interchange.

Juicy D. Links · 04-30-2004, 09:26 PM

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Originally posted by papichulo
That chick is SERIOUSLY tweaking.

My guess would be GHB or Ecstacy

More likely X

the Shemp · 04-30-2004, 09:30 PM

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Originally posted by papichulo
Good point. However, capital (if the economics are correct) would rather buy a machine than labor. Perhaps, with the rapid evolution of technology, labor and capital (ie., machinery) are more and more interchangeable. Unfortunately, oftentimes labor unions stand in the way of this efficient interchange.

labor creates the machines, the technology, the facilites.... or are you referring to labor in the more traditional sense, ie assembly lines of regimented workers, all working in unison and dancing to the bosses shift change buzzer?

Snake Doctor · 04-30-2004, 10:42 PM

The right of labor to collectively bargain to get better wages, benefits, and working conditions for its members is no different than Wal-Mart using its purchasing power to get lower prices on goods from manufacturers.

Yet when Wal-Mart makes a deal for itself you call it capitalism and when workers make a better deal for themselves you say they got something they didn't deserve and each worker should have to negotiate for themselves.

Should each individual walmart store have to negotiate the price of kraft cheese on its own as well?

04-30-2004, 06:56 PM	#1
Mr. Marks Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wherever I want Posts: 7,517	My International Labor Day message: ABOLISH TRADE UNIONS Labor unions protect the weak, the lazy, the dumb, and those who lack ambition. To be fair, trade unions have brought some benefits to the working person... like fucked up union dues, higher inflation, crippled domestic industries because of inelastic wage structures, soaring health care premiums But really... its time to do away with this monstrosity of the 1800s and let every individual employee bargain their way to higher wages. If you're worth it, you'll get it. If not, you are just a parasite and should either go back to school or somehow increase your marketable skills. Let the free market decide. I'm assuming most of you own your own businesses so you would agree with many of these points. If not, then you may be a weak sheep that believes in shaking down management for benefits you don't deserve.

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emmanuelle Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Oh Canada! Posts: 3,662	Workers who belong to unions: -earn higher wages -receive better training -work fewer hours -have longer job tenure -live longer Union membership also closes the wage gap between women and men and fights discrimination. Read the world bank report at http://www.walmartworkerscanada.com/WB_union_rep.pdf

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