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Polak · 02-26-2004, 02:27 AM

I just logged into my account (which I havent used in 2 weeks since I just joined and sent some test traffic to see how it converts and if they pay)

Everything was great until today, I logged in and while expecting to see my 120-140 signups, I see 19. OVer 80% of my signups have been erased, when they were there just a few days ago.

I sure hope this is a glitch, that is why I am not bashing just yet.
If its not a glitch, you guys should be ashamed of yourselves. If you dont want my business, then PAY me what I'm really owed and I will never send traffic there again.

Worst of all is that I paid for SE results for this one....

hoe_vender · 02-26-2004, 02:46 AM

They suck dude but that is the way they do it

Mike-BP · 02-26-2004, 02:51 AM

Keep us updated please, gotta delete my links to their sites if this is true

kios · 02-26-2004, 02:54 AM

Did you mail them or try to contact them prior to posting this? I mean its probably just a small glitch. No sponsor can be this stupid....

It can really hurt a sponsor posting negative things like this, so you should rwally try everything to get it solved privately and not on the boards...

Just my thought.

Polak · 02-26-2004, 02:54 AM

Yes I'm pretty sure I wont get a reply until tomorrow (it's after 1am right now)...

I will post the updates when I have a chance to talk to someone from there.

spentrent · 02-26-2004, 02:57 AM

That is a major bummer.

If you are gonna invest that much (assuming that you spent a great deal), why not buy some content and buy hits for your own paysite?

I wear my tinfoil hat at all times.

VeriSexy · 02-26-2004, 03:03 AM

Really sucks

stevecore · 02-26-2004, 03:04 AM

polak, where are you from?? poland? if that's the case i would suspect that if it's not a glitch, they were most likely removed for possible fraud.

Polak · 02-26-2004, 03:23 AM

No, Im of Polish background living in Canada for the last 15 years.

Trent Edison · 02-26-2004, 03:36 AM

19 left of 140?? Jeeeeezzzz....

Trax · 02-26-2004, 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trent Edison

lol
nice smilie

ldinternet · 02-26-2004, 04:32 AM

All these small no-name "per signup" sponsors and "built on junk email" sponsors are all the same.

PIB Cash, Cash Mountain, Capital Bucks, Pie Cash, etc... all of them are fucking thieves. I don't understand why you people promote grade F sponsors, are you really that stupid and blind?

If you're all so keen to promote grade F sponsors, then you'd better get used to getting fucked hard and deep.

newbiz · 02-26-2004, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Polak
I just logged into my account (which I havent used in 2 weeks since I just joined and sent some test traffic to see how it converts and if they pay)

Everything was great until today, I logged in and while expecting to see my 120-140 signups, I see 19. OVer 80% of my signups have been erased, when they were there just a few days ago.

I sure hope this is a glitch, that is why I am not bashing just yet.
If its not a glitch, you guys should be ashamed of yourselves. If you dont want my business, then PAY me what I'm really owed and I will never send traffic there again.

Worst of all is that I paid for SE results for this one....

Here it the Response to this webmaster.

Webmaster,
(Name left out to protect his identity)
Your account has been put on an "active model". Which means that the account will only be paid for members that convert from the trial period to a monthly. Every pay period we evaluate all accounts to see if the performance, (traffic quality), meets our requirements to remain on the "per join" model. Your account has fallen way below our requirements to remain on the per join model.

Here are your total overall stats as of today 7:00 AM PST

2009 118(118) 19(19) 2(2)

2009 Uniques , 118 Joins , 19 Conversions, 2 refunds
17 total joins have converted. We didn't deduct for the refunds, nor do we deduct for any chargeback's that your account may produce.

This represents a poor conversion from trial to monthly. Our webmasters must send traffic that produces much higher conversions at least 22% or higher.

We encourage you to read our Terms and Conditions http://www.capitalbucks.com/terms.html.

We will be monitoring your account by pay period and if we see an improvement in your conversion ratio we will put you back on the "per join" model. Try some of our others sites as well, this will help your overall conversions.

Thanks
CapitalBucks Support

newbiz · 02-26-2004, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stevecore
polak, where are you from?? poland? if that's the case i would suspect that if it's not a glitch, they were most likely removed for possible fraud.

thank you Stevecore,

This is exactly, what this webmaster provided. Joins that indicate credits, and chargebacks.

Michael O · 02-26-2004, 10:25 AM

Well its actually a 14.4% conversion from trial to monthly (17/118) which is a lot better than 0.00846% don´t know how you got that number

Trax · 02-26-2004, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by newbiz

Here it the Response to this webmaster.

Webmaster,
(Name left out to protect his identity)
Your account has been put on an "active model". Which means that the account will only be paid for members that convert from the trial period to a monthly. Every pay period we evaluate all accounts to see if the performance, (traffic quality), meets our requirements to remain on the "per join" model. Your account has fallen way below our requirements to remain on the per join model.

Here are your total overall stats as of today 7:00 AM PST

2009 118(118) 19(19) 2(2)

2009 Uniques , 118 Joins , 19 Conversions, 2 refunds
17 total joins have converted. We didn't deduct for the refunds, nor do we deduct for any chargeback's that your account may produce.

This is a 0.00846% conversion from trial to monthly. Our webmasters must send traffic that produces much higher conversions at least 22% or higher.

We encourage you to read our Terms and Conditions http://www.capitalbucks.com/terms.html.

We will be monitoring your account by pay period and if we see an improvement in your conversion ratio we will put you back on the "per join" model. Try some of our others sites as well, this will help your overall conversions.

Thanks
CapitalBucks Support

0.00846% conversion from trial to monthly

how do you calculate that lol?

slapass · 02-26-2004, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trax

0.00846% conversion from trial to monthly
how do you calculate that lol?

You missed the math. .008 is wrong.

Oracle Porn · 02-26-2004, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by newbiz

Here it the Response to this webmaster.

Webmaster,
(Name left out to protect his identity)
Your account has been put on an "active model". Which means that the account will only be paid for members that convert from the trial period to a monthly. Every pay period we evaluate all accounts to see if the performance, (traffic quality), meets our requirements to remain on the "per join" model. Your account has fallen way below our requirements to remain on the per join model.

Here are your total overall stats as of today 7:00 AM PST

2009 118(118) 19(19) 2(2)

2009 Uniques , 118 Joins , 19 Conversions, 2 refunds
17 total joins have converted. We didn't deduct for the refunds, nor do we deduct for any chargeback's that your account may produce.

This is a 0.00846% conversion from trial to monthly. Our webmasters must send traffic that produces much higher conversions at least 22% or higher.

We encourage you to read our Terms and Conditions http://www.capitalbucks.com/terms.html.

We will be monitoring your account by pay period and if we see an improvement in your conversion ratio we will put you back on the "per join" model. Try some of our others sites as well, this will help your overall conversions.

Thanks
CapitalBucks Support

Thats your paysites fuck up! YOU can not convert them to full memberships.... I suggest you do something about it....

newbiz · 02-26-2004, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kios
Did you mail them or try to contact them prior to posting this? I mean its probably just a small glitch. No sponsor can be this stupid....

It can really hurt a sponsor posting negative things like this, so you should rwally try everything to get it solved privately and not on the boards...

Just my thought.

This industry needs webmasters like you who know how to handle concerns professionally.

Our hats off to you.

X-Wing · 02-26-2004, 10:32 AM

I'll never send traffic to these clowns...

best of luck to you Polak

newbiz · 02-26-2004, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by slapass

You missed the math. .008 is wrong.

read it again does that make you feel better sweetie?

Trax · 02-26-2004, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by slapass

You missed the math. .008 is wrong.

??? what do you mean

newbiz · 02-26-2004, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ldinternet
All these small no-name "per signup" sponsors and "built on junk email" sponsors are all the same.

PIB Cash, Cash Mountain, Capital Bucks, Pie Cash, etc... all of them are fucking thieves. I don't understand why you people promote grade F sponsors, are you really that stupid and blind?

If you're all so keen to promote grade F sponsors, then you'd better get used to getting fucked hard and deep.

Wow Capitalbucks must suck, Thats why Silvercash, Traffic Cash Gold, SIC Cash, Pornkings, anfd Hawgs Cash, etc etc etc all send traffic to Capitalbucks.

Please becareful how you choose your slanderous words, our legal depatment doesnt take it lightly.

ldinternet · 02-26-2004, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by newbiz

Wow Capitalbucks must suck, Thats why Silvercash, Traffic Cash Gold, SIC Cash, Pornkings, anfd Hawgs Cash, etc etc etc all send traffic to Capitalbucks.

Please becareful how you choose your slanderous words, our legal depatment doesnt take it lightly.

So sue me, you fucking pussy.

newbiz · 02-26-2004, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Keyser Soze
Well its actually a 14.4% conversion from trial to monthly (17/118) which is a lot better than 0.00846% don´t know how you got that number

Thanks for doing the math for us. ;)

newbiz · 02-26-2004, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ldinternet

So sue me, you fucking pussy.

We will put it on our list of things to do tough guy.

ldinternet · 02-26-2004, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by newbiz

We will put it on our list of things to do tough guy.

I can assure you, my pants are dripping. I just hope that your "legal department"

knows the difference between libel and slander.

Not that truth can ever be libelous, of course.

Trax · 02-26-2004, 10:49 AM

lol
drama
nice

rocki · 02-26-2004, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by newbiz

Wow Capitalbucks must suck, Thats why Silvercash, Traffic Cash Gold, SIC Cash, Pornkings, anfd Hawgs Cash, etc etc etc all send traffic to Capitalbucks.

That is correct... we've (TCG) been sending traffic to you since you launched your program... great program and good converting sites...

KRosh · 02-26-2004, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ldinternet
All these small no-name "per signup" sponsors and "built on junk email" sponsors are all the same.

PIB Cash, Cash Mountain, Capital Bucks, Pie Cash, etc... all of them are fucking thieves. I don't understand why you people promote grade F sponsors, are you really that stupid and blind?

If you're all so keen to promote grade F sponsors, then you'd better get used to getting fucked hard and deep.

This cracks me up...Grade F sponsor...LOL

Newbiz has been a key player in this industry for a LONG time.

Next time that YOU run your own program and want to pay on trial joins that do NOT convert then you can talk. Especially since it is written in the terms and Conditions.

Let me understand you correctly so that the legal department also Understands you... Libel is better than slander ??

"Libel is the written or broadcast form of defamation, distinguished from slander, which is oral defamation."

Have you ever tried sending traffic to Capital Bucks?? is that why you "KNOW " they are thieves?

Get a CLUE !

Detour-Diva · 02-26-2004, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rocki

That is correct... we've (TCG) been sending traffic to you since you launched your program... great program and good converting sites...

I've got to agree...many of my clients have been and still are sending traffic to CB...after a call to a few of them to make sure I wasn't talking out my ass, they all tell me it is a great program that converts really well for them...

It's too bad this couldn't have been handled more professionally...i.e., OFF THE BOARDS!

serious · 02-26-2004, 11:16 AM

Do you at least pay more for actives?

archik · 02-26-2004, 11:34 AM

Capitalbucks - great program

1:110 conversions for mee

Newbiz - great and honest guy.

now where's my $20 in paypal

shann · 02-26-2004, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ldinternet
All these small no-name "per signup" sponsors and "built on junk email" sponsors are all the same.

PIB Cash, Cash Mountain, Capital Bucks, Pie Cash, etc... all of them are fucking thieves. I don't understand why you people promote grade F sponsors, are you really that stupid and blind?

If you're all so keen to promote grade F sponsors, then you'd better get used to getting fucked hard and deep.

Grade F? LOL We are getting marked now? You are the sponsor quality control? Nice gig! Care to back it up?

strobi · 02-26-2004, 12:47 PM

ahhhhh Drama! Finally!!!

Marina · 02-26-2004, 01:00 PM

It makes you wonder when any sponsor cant grab se traffic and turn it into gold!

TheGoldenChild · 02-26-2004, 01:03 PM

Yeah Mon

Newbiz is a STAND UP GUY!

Polak · 02-26-2004, 01:32 PM

Basically I have been put into a Revshare program that pays me for 2 months at maximum.

LOL No thanks.

Polak · 02-26-2004, 01:36 PM

By the way 19 conversions from 119 is 16%+

Enough, pay me what I'm owed, and this will be over. I will not send any more traffic EVER to any of your sites.

Can I ask you: Why did you hold my account at $3500 for 2-3 weeks until you realised that I will stop and wait to see my money before sending more traffic?

gregtx · 02-26-2004, 01:52 PM

webmasters choose who to send traffic to... sponsors have terms by which they choose not to do biz with certain webmasters...
Capital bucks nor any other program out there is in business to loose money... I like their way of handeling low retaining webmaster accounts.. we normally just pay and ask them to please send their traffic elsewhere.. as we too are not in business to loose money.

and on a side note...

Capaital Bucks checks have always been paid on time and they cash... and after the business facts... Newbiz is a stand up guy...

IPK · 02-26-2004, 01:52 PM

i don't even know anyone else that uses that program

LA Mike · 02-26-2004, 01:57 PM

yep, we use them and they do great for us.

Newbiz is da man! The man who has my women.. give her back Alan!!

WiredGuy · 02-26-2004, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LAMike
yep, we use them and they do great for us.

Newbiz is da man! The man who has my women.. give her back Alan!!

Seriously, she's gorgeous!
WG

Trax · 02-26-2004, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Polak
By the way 19 conversions from 119 is 16%+

Enough, pay me what I'm owed, and this will be over. I will not send any more traffic EVER to any of your sites.

Can I ask you: Why did you hold my account at $3500 for 2-3 weeks until you realised that I will stop and wait to see my money before sending more traffic?

forget it man
you just lost the game

Reak · 02-26-2004, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Polak
Worst of all is that I paid for SE results for this one....

Why dont you try out our sites,

They work great on SE Traffic:

And this is on low traffic tough..

Pinkpays · 02-26-2004, 02:44 PM

Newbiz...ok...but he knows I'll steal his girl from hijm thats why he moved..

hahahaha

love you man...Capitalbucks is an excellant site and converts very well for me..must be your TGP isn't converting well...hahahaha

Matt

Pinkpays.com

Poppy · 02-26-2004, 02:50 PM

What up Newbiz! Good guy for sure.

Hit me up brutha.

Poppy

newbiz · 02-26-2004, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LAMike
yep, we use them and they do great for us.

Newbiz is da man! The man who has my women.. give her back Alan!!

Silver Pimp strikes again!

LOL You crack me up!

She sends her love!

newbiz · 02-26-2004, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy

Seriously, she's gorgeous!
WG

She loves you back WG! Thanks for the post!

WiredGuy · 02-26-2004, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by newbiz
She loves you back WG! Thanks for the post!

02-26-2004, 02:27 AM	#1
Polak Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 620	Capital Bucks - Thumbs Down I just logged into my account (which I havent used in 2 weeks since I just joined and sent some test traffic to see how it converts and if they pay) Everything was great until today, I logged in and while expecting to see my 120-140 signups, I see 19. OVer 80% of my signups have been erased, when they were there just a few days ago. I sure hope this is a glitch, that is why I am not bashing just yet. If its not a glitch, you guys should be ashamed of yourselves. If you dont want my business, then PAY me what I'm really owed and I will never send traffic there again. Worst of all is that I paid for SE results for this one....

02-26-2004, 02:46 AM	#2
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02-26-2004, 02:51 AM	#3
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02-26-2004, 02:54 AM	#4
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02-26-2004, 02:57 AM	#6
spentrent Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LA Posts: 876	That is a major bummer. If you are gonna invest that much (assuming that you spent a great deal), why not buy some content and buy hits for your own paysite? I wear my tinfoil hat at all times.

02-26-2004, 03:04 AM	#8
stevecore Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 6,130	polak, where are you from?? poland? if that's the case i would suspect that if it's not a glitch, they were most likely removed for possible fraud.

02-26-2004, 03:23 AM	#9
Polak Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 620	No, Im of Polish background living in Canada for the last 15 years.

02-26-2004, 03:36 AM	#10
Trent Edison Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Freeport 7 Posts: 6,132	19 left of 140?? Jeeeeezzzz.... __________________

02-26-2004, 04:32 AM	#12
ldinternet Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 8,245	All these small no-name "per signup" sponsors and "built on junk email" sponsors are all the same. PIB Cash, Cash Mountain, Capital Bucks, Pie Cash, etc... all of them are fucking thieves. I don't understand why you people promote grade F sponsors, are you really that stupid and blind? If you're all so keen to promote grade F sponsors, then you'd better get used to getting fucked hard and deep.

02-26-2004, 10:25 AM	#15
Michael O More Cowbell Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nakhom Nowhere Posts: 10,607	Well its actually a 14.4% conversion from trial to monthly (17/118) which is a lot better than 0.00846% don´t know how you got that number __________________ Truth Teller

02-26-2004, 10:32 AM	#20
X-Wing Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 768	I'll never send traffic to these clowns... best of luck to you Polak

02-26-2004, 10:49 AM	#28
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	lol drama nice

02-26-2004, 11:16 AM	#32
serious Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,594	Do you at least pay more for actives? __________________ new search

02-26-2004, 11:34 AM	#33
archik Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 142	Capitalbucks - great program 1:110 conversions for mee Newbiz - great and honest guy. now where's my $20 in paypal

02-26-2004, 12:47 PM	#35
strobi Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 7,383	ahhhhh Drama! Finally!!!

02-26-2004, 01:00 PM	#36
Marina Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: at my fucking desk Posts: 437	It makes you wonder when any sponsor cant grab se traffic and turn it into gold!

02-26-2004, 01:03 PM	#37
TheGoldenChild Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Pacific Palisades Posts: 6,940	Yeah Mon Newbiz is a STAND UP GUY! __________________

02-26-2004, 01:32 PM	#38
Polak Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 620	Basically I have been put into a Revshare program that pays me for 2 months at maximum. LOL No thanks.

02-26-2004, 01:36 PM	#39
Polak Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 620	By the way 19 conversions from 119 is 16%+ Enough, pay me what I'm owed, and this will be over. I will not send any more traffic EVER to any of your sites. Can I ask you: Why did you hold my account at $3500 for 2-3 weeks until you realised that I will stop and wait to see my money before sending more traffic?

02-26-2004, 01:52 PM	#40
gregtx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,929	webmasters choose who to send traffic to... sponsors have terms by which they choose not to do biz with certain webmasters... Capital bucks nor any other program out there is in business to loose money... I like their way of handeling low retaining webmaster accounts.. we normally just pay and ask them to please send their traffic elsewhere.. as we too are not in business to loose money. and on a side note... Capaital Bucks checks have always been paid on time and they cash... and after the business facts... Newbiz is a stand up guy... __________________ Processing Partners http://www.processingpartners.com

02-26-2004, 01:52 PM	#41
IPK Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 4,209	i don't even know anyone else that uses that program __________________ DomainerResource.com strategies for monetizing and investing in domain names...

02-26-2004, 01:57 PM	#42
LA Mike Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 3,056	yep, we use them and they do great for us. Newbiz is da man! The man who has my women.. give her back Alan!!

02-26-2004, 02:44 PM	#46
Pinkpays Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 56	Newbiz...ok...but he knows I'll steal his girl from hijm thats why he moved.. hahahaha love you man...Capitalbucks is an excellant site and converts very well for me..must be your TGP isn't converting well...hahahaha Matt Pinkpays.com

02-26-2004, 02:50 PM	#47
Poppy Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: O H I O Posts: 6,254	What up Newbiz! Good guy for sure. Hit me up brutha. Poppy __________________ VP Sales, Peak5Payments [email protected] Skype: consultpoppy In adult since 98'