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doober 05-10-2004 06:05 PM

lest not jump the gun Ray, we still need to find out if they will process cards out of North America or else we are all just spinning our wheels



:2 cents:

Ray@TastyDollars 05-10-2004 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by doober
lest not jump the gun Ray, we still need to find out if they will process cards out of North America or else we are all just spinning our wheels



:2 cents:

True.

What im excited about is if they can do it why cant CCbill or Ibill expand to Canada and do the same? That would be great.

Ray

ps. I havent forgot about our power lunch. Been having some minor problems with my baby girl the past couple weeks(nothing serious). I should be available by the end of the month.

pornstar2pac 05-10-2004 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MaskedMan
Huh? You could at least try to be close when you make up stuff.
40 cents or 65 cents. what's the difference?

Bell 05-10-2004 06:38 PM

GiGi (and others)

I recommend you FIRST check out NetBilling.com
(ask for Mitchor Karen)


GiGI - you know me from elsewhere on the net :)
so I feel a *special* need to protect you
- - p- go with NetBilling.com

~Bell

xxxdesign-net 05-10-2004 06:39 PM

Would surely be awesome if they can process cards beyond North America... I have all the trouble in the world finding a "resident agent" in the states.. willing to give out his personal info to ccbill....

hershie 05-10-2004 06:43 PM

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Originally posted by pornstar2pac
40 cents or 65 cents. what's the difference?
Note To Self: For the love of god, remember never to do business with this guy.

Suckitbitch 05-10-2004 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hershie
That's about as solid a backing as you could hope for.

Well no actually, get a few chargebacks and you are done. The Moneris gateway isn't exactly tailored to the kind of fraud you would get in online adult transactions either.

Just ask one of their sales clowns about excessive chargebacks for NON adult transactions, let alone adult.

hershie 05-10-2004 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Suckitbitch
Well no actually, get a few chargebacks and you are done. The Moneris gateway isn't exactly tailored to the kind of fraud you would get in online adult transactions either.

Just ask one of their sales clowns about excessive chargebacks for NON adult transactions, let alone adult.

While that may be the case, that's a policy/operational issue that has nothing to do with how solid a company is behind this operation, especially compared to some of the fly-by-nights we have seen and I have personally been burned by.

s0laris2 05-10-2004 07:02 PM

hmm that woulf be cool to have moneris processing adult..

Only prob guys is you will have to pay 7% gst from all the sales..

I used to process adult with Moneris years ago before they stopped it.

I have letters from Revenu canada stating too that all internet sales with no signature, etc will be subject to 7% gst.


I dont know if that will change now.. but it will be a nightmare to manage!

StuartD 05-10-2004 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornstar2pac
40 cents or 65 cents. what's the difference?
what's truly scary is that you're being serious.

WiredGuy 05-10-2004 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by s0laris2
hmm that woulf be cool to have moneris processing adult..

Only prob guys is you will have to pay 7% gst from all the sales..

I used to process adult with Moneris years ago before they stopped it.

I have letters from Revenu canada stating too that all internet sales with no signature, etc will be subject to 7% gst.


I dont know if that will change now.. but it will be a nightmare to manage!

:winkwink:

CCRA are such nice people. They have me on their speed dial :)
WG

BradM 05-10-2004 07:14 PM

Moneris is a good company.... they do all the major debit and cc transactions up here

Suckitbitch 05-10-2004 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hershie
While that may be the case, that's a policy/operational issue that has nothing to do with how solid a company is behind this operation, especially compared to some of the fly-by-nights we have seen and I have personally been burned by.

Monopolistic charter banks in Canada are about as solid as it gets from that standpoint. They also couldn't care less if they get your business or not and can change their minds at any second and decide to stop processing adult transactions.

And like the other guy says... don't forget to charge GST :Graucho

pornstar2pac 05-10-2004 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MaskedMan
what's truly scary is that you're being serious.

that's what you want people to think. give them credit, their not dumb

the indigo 05-10-2004 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by notjoe
Actually, its about .65 cents US

Thank god the rates are getting back to something decent..i'm tied of this 1USD = 1.28 CAd shit :)

.65 cents? That was 2 years ago.

It's 71.69 as of today... dropped from 76 cents a few months back.

monica 05-10-2004 07:57 PM

wow... I've been waiting and waiting and waiting for a Candian processor that doesn't do all of their processing overseas... definitely worth looking into.

NETbilling 05-10-2004 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by the indigo
What do you mean by "North American Credit Cards Only"? A customer from Europe, using his Visa or Mastercard would not be able to join the site?

Since you already work, I guess that integration of Moneris Canada would be easily done with Netbilling?

We are already integrated with Moneris' banking solutions. Does that answer your question or am I missing something.

Mitch

NETbilling 05-10-2004 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bell
GiGi (and others)

I recommend you FIRST check out NetBilling.com
(ask for Mitch or Karen)

GiGI - you know me from elsewhere on the net :)
so I feel a *special* need to protect you
- - p- go with NetBilling.com

~Bell

Thanks for the kind words Bell.

Mitch

Martin 05-10-2004 09:12 PM

:Buck:

gigi 05-11-2004 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bell
GiGi (and others)

I recommend you FIRST check out NetBilling.com
(ask for Mitchor Karen)


GiGI - you know me from elsewhere on the net :)
so I feel a *special* need to protect you
- - p- go with NetBilling.com

~Bell

Thanks Bell... :) *huggs*

Mitch...I'll be contacting you in a day or so...just have to organize myself here. ;)

doober 05-11-2004 08:59 AM

So anyome confirm that Credit card info about only being able to process Nort American Credit cards?

What about cb ratios?

biiiiiizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzumP

NETbilling 05-11-2004 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gigi
Thanks Bell... :) *huggs*

Mitch...I'll be contacting you in a day or so...just have to organize myself here. ;)

Sounds great!

Mitch

Indeed 05-11-2004 10:17 AM

hmm interesting

L0stMind 05-11-2004 11:00 AM

I use moneris for nonadult.

Very little problems with chargebacks... We have only had 2 in the past 3 years...

Will be keeping an eye on this to see where it goes...

vas 05-11-2004 02:06 PM

does that mean you can process for canadian webmasters? and help us get setup with the merch?

Quote:

Originally posted by netbilling
Sounds great!

Mitch


xxxdesign-net 05-11-2004 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by L0stMind
I use moneris for nonadult.

Very little problems with chargebacks... We have only had 2 in the past 3 years...

Will be keeping an eye on this to see where it goes...

can you accept transaction outside of North america?

L0stMind 05-11-2004 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
can you accept transaction outside of North america?
With my regular merchant account I can accept cards from anywhere...

NETbilling 05-11-2004 10:02 PM

ok - Here is the scoop

I spoke too soon. We did some transaction analysis today of some of our Moneris merchants and it seems as though for a period of time there were a huge foreign card decline rate but that has sionce subsided and all is well. We have a meeting with Moneris tomorrow about setting up new 5967 accounts so please stay tuned and I will post the results of that meeting here tomorrow night.

Thanks, Mitch

CrazyAL 05-12-2004 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by netbilling
ok - Here is the scoop

I spoke too soon. We did some transaction analysis today of some of our Moneris merchants and it seems as though for a period of time there were a huge foreign card decline rate but that has sionce subsided and all is well. We have a meeting with Moneris tomorrow about setting up new 5967 accounts so please stay tuned and I will post the results of that meeting here tomorrow night.

Thanks, Mitch

Groovy :thumbsup

webmaster x 05-12-2004 04:08 AM

Moneris is an excellent company!

StRoGE 05-12-2004 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by netbilling
ok - Here is the scoop

I spoke too soon. We did some transaction analysis today of some of our Moneris merchants and it seems as though for a period of time there were a huge foreign card decline rate but that has sionce subsided and all is well. We have a meeting with Moneris tomorrow about setting up new 5967 accounts so please stay tuned and I will post the results of that meeting here tomorrow night.

Thanks, Mitch

Excellent news! Two :thumbsup :thumbsup for Moneris and Netbilling!

Alex Xe 05-12-2004 06:05 AM

3.9% only...fuck...good offer.

Paul Waters 05-12-2004 06:31 AM

What is 5967 account?

:rasta

sperbonzo 05-12-2004 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Paul Waters
What is 5967 account?

:rasta

5967 is the merchant catagory code (MCC) for an adult online account

Martin 05-12-2004 07:33 AM

This would be sweet. *Watching with interest*

McKracken 05-12-2004 09:11 AM

worth a bump!

CrazyAL 05-12-2004 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by McKracken
worth a bump!
:rasta

monica 05-12-2004 10:00 PM

I am definitely interested in hearing how this goes...

DatingGold 05-12-2004 10:28 PM

even if they didnt do europe etc. thats only what 10-15%, jsut us geo targetting and send that elsewhere..

but it sounds like they do.

But can you just incorporate there or do you have to physically live in Canada?

NETbilling 05-13-2004 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DatingGold
even if they didnt do europe etc. thats only what 10-15%, jsut us geo targetting and send that elsewhere..

but it sounds like they do.

But can you just incorporate there or do you have to physically live in Canada?

Alan,

You just need to be incorporated or live in the US or Canada. Contact me Monday and I will have more info.

Mitch

Braincash Fred 05-13-2004 06:43 AM

Mitch .. do you have an icq number?

Head 05-13-2004 07:31 AM

hope it works!!

notjoe 05-13-2004 07:51 AM

Netbilling has never helped me. They always say we accept adult this and adult that but when it came down to selling real product and not hot air Netbilling has always failed me.

I've seen mitch, on numerous accounts, say that they will gladly accept tangiable products and yet he was never able to do so for me and all i got was call this person and call that person.

Why go through a 3rd party? Just go directly to Moneris.

DatingGold 05-13-2004 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by notjoe
Netbilling has never helped me. They always say we accept adult this and adult that but when it came down to selling real product and not hot air Netbilling has always failed me.

I've seen mitch, on numerous accounts, say that they will gladly accept tangiable products and yet he was never able to do so for me and all i got was call this person and call that person.

Why go through a 3rd party? Just go directly to Moneris.

yeah I think Mitch got wind of this after reading your thread.. thats why they need until Monday. :2 cents:

cause they never mentioned they had it before.

Mitch is a good guy though

psyko514 05-13-2004 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sperbonzo
5967 is the merchant catagory code (MCC) for an adult online account
not just online adult... but online adult does fall into that category. the category is called "Inbound Teleservices Merchant" and it includes anyone providing services/information (not tangible goods). adult websites are included, but so are regular websites offering subscriptions as well as things like sports tips lines and horoscope lines.

all in all, this is some pretty awesome news. for those thinking the merchant fees seem a little low, keep in mind that we're talking the fees for a merchant account, not for processing through a 3rd party IPSP.

CCBill Canada would be like a dream come true!

CoolE 05-13-2004 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514
CCBill Canada would be like a dream come true!
I'll say. Corvette, are you out there? Can you comment?

CrazyAL 05-13-2004 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514
not just online adult... but online adult does fall into that category. the category is called "Inbound Teleservices Merchant" and it includes anyone providing services/information (not tangible goods). adult websites are included, but so are regular websites offering subscriptions as well as things like sports tips lines and horoscope lines.

all in all, this is some pretty awesome news. for those thinking the merchant fees seem a little low, keep in mind that we're talking the fees for a merchant account, not for processing through a 3rd party IPSP.

CCBill Canada would be like a dream come true!

I have contacted CCBill regarding Moneris, not much in terms of a reply except for that they will bring it up with their CFO. CCBill has already tried setting up in Canada and even said they had a Canadian bank ready to work with them but claimed to me anyway that it was not worth it because of a lack of interests from Canadian companies saying many of them had already inc.ed their companies in the US or in Europe.

hershie 05-13-2004 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CrazyAL
I have contacted CCBill regarding Moneris, not much in terms of a reply except for that they will bring it up with their CFO. CCBill has already tried setting up in Canada and even said they had a Canadian bank ready to work with them but claimed to me anyway that it was not worth it because of a lack of interests from Canadian companies saying many of them had already inc.ed their companies in the US or in Europe.
I hope CCBill actually did a more exhaustive study of real interest from CDN's beyond the post they made on 2 message boards asking if there was any interest. I didn't reply in the thread and am sure 99% of interested parties didn't as well.

psyko514 05-13-2004 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hershie
I hope CCBill actually did a more exhaustive study of real interest from CDN's beyond the post they made on 2 message boards asking if there was any interest. I didn't reply in the thread and am sure 99% of interested parties didn't as well.
not only that, but there were looking for people who'd be processing 10s of thousands of dollars of transactions monthly.

CrazyAL 05-17-2004 11:30 PM

So any news? anyone setup yet?


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