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Old 04-28-2004, 10:25 AM   #1
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Tuesday, April 27, 2004 Posted: 12:13 PM EDT (1613 GMT)

PROSSER, Washington (AP) -- Secret Service agents questioned a high school student about anti-war drawings he did for an art class, one of which depicted President Bush's head on a stick.

Another pencil-and-ink drawing portrayed Bush as a devil launching a missile, with a caption reading "End the war -- on terrorism."

The 15-year-old boy's art teacher at Prosser High School turned the drawings over to school administrators, who notified police, who called the Secret Service.

"We involve the police anytime we have a concern," Prosser Superintendent Ray Tolcacher told the Tri-City Herald newspaper.

Secret Service agents interviewed the boy last Friday. The student, who was not arrested, has not been identified.

The school district disciplined him, but district officials refused to say what the punishment was. Tolcacher said the boy was not suspended.

The artwork was apparently part of an assignment to keep a notebook of drawings, according to Kevin Cravens, a friend of the boy's family.

The drawing that drew the most notice showed a man in what appeared to be Middle Eastern-style clothing, holding a rifle. He was also holding a stick with an oversize head of the president on it.

The student said the head was enlarged because it was intended to be an effigy, Cravens said. The caption called for an end to the war in Iraq.

A message left by The Associated Press with an after-hours duty officer with the Secret Service in Washington, D.C., was not immediately returned on Monday.

"If this 15-year-old kid in Prosser is perceived as a threat to the president, then we are living in '1984'," Cravens said.

Tolcacher insisted it was not a freedom of speech issue, but a concern over the depiction of violence.

"From what I saw, [school officials] were right to be concerned," Prosser Police Chief Win Taylor said.
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Old 04-28-2004, 10:26 AM   #2
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Old 04-28-2004, 10:26 AM   #3
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Old 04-28-2004, 10:27 AM   #4
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no the teacher should be fired.

it really has nothing to do with big brother when its teachers turning against children who are expressing themselves.

that teacher should be reprimanded not the kid.
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Old 04-28-2004, 10:29 AM   #5
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haha.shit is really hitting the fan


soon people will be getting arrested for talking out.


neighbours will be reporting their neighbours who act suspiciously..they will be arrested and questioned...oh wait i know where this happened before


history has a funny way of repeeating itself
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Old 04-28-2004, 10:29 AM   #6
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The school district disciplined him
For doing what? A drawing?

They didn't like his drawing so they disciplined him?
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Old 04-28-2004, 10:31 AM   #7
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haha.shit is really hitting the fan


soon people will be getting arrested for talking out.


neighbours will be reporting their neighbours who act suspiciously..they will be arrested and questioned...oh wait i know where this happened before


history has a funny way of repeeating itself
exactly, neighbors turning in each other, and teachers turning in students for drawingas?

i drew much worst shit, anti christian shit in art school.

I spent years drawing anti things for art class and never had a teacher pull some shit like this.

this is 1984 shit man, ART teachers turning in students for drawings?

what happened to art?
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Old 04-28-2004, 10:33 AM   #8
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check this one out

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what kills me, is they dont have time to investigate REAL threats like Clarke gave them in memos about Osama and his threats, "Osoma to attack within US"

yet they actually have time to hassle STUDENTS about art drawings?

think about that for a minute.
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Tolcacher insisted it was not a freedom of speech issue, but a concern over the depiction of violence.
Why can't he draw violent pictures? Comic books are full of violence. Humans are violent. There's a war going on, bombs are being dropped, soldiers are shooting guns, people are being killed.

I can see maybe involving the kids parents concerning the drawing, but the Secret Service? C'mon!
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Old 04-28-2004, 10:36 AM   #11
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: 1984 is closer than you may think.

I sympathize with the kid. I got tossed out of a mall here in Nashville recently for wearing a shirt that said Nine Inch fuckin Nails.

that "teacher" needs to be drug out in the middle of the street and flogged.
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Old 04-28-2004, 10:37 AM   #12
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ATTENTION: would someone please go and arrest Stan Lee and everyone at Marvel Comics. THEY ARE DRAWING VIOLENCE!!!


AAAAAAAAAAHHHHhhhhhhhh!!!
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"Cravens said the boy's real problem is that he just doesn't fit in with the Prosser crowd. The boy sports a Mohawk and plays in a punk-rock band, and that isn't exactly the norm out in Benton County, he said. "It definitely doesn't help his case."

someone post the phone number to this school.


I want to call.
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"Cravens said the boy's real problem is that he just doesn't fit in with the Prosser crowd. The boy sports a Mohawk and plays in a punk-rock band, and that isn't exactly the norm out in Benton County, he said. "It definitely doesn't help his case."

someone post the phone number to this school.


I want to call.
These kids today and their "punk rock" music!
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kids going to have a great carrear as a political cartoonist.

if they had ignored him none of this would have happened, it would just blow over unoticed.

just spell my name right, in the newspaper and on the big fat paycheck.
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This little bastard is anti-Bush and therefore anti-freedom and anti-America. There is no question in my mind that he was planning a terrorist attack. I hope they hang him as a traitor.
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QUICK!!! Someone call the secret service! People are drawing violence!

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No wonder real terrorists can sometimes go undetected!
this is my point.

Clarke sends Condi Rice memos urging her that America is going to be attacked by Osama, the admin ignores them and we have Sept 11th.

They dont have time to investigate all the info they have concerning real threats, yet they have the resources to send out some robots to hassle a kid about some sketches of Bush?

seriously, this shit has got to stop.
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Tolcacher insisted it was not a freedom of speech issue, but a concern over the depiction of violence.




Sure thats why the secret services got involved...

btw... male art students have always drawn those monsters... megadeath/ironmaden type of images... they need to get a clue.. MAybe they should investiguate everyone that plays violent videogames or go see violent movies..!&? lol
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