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Old 04-17-2004, 10:33 AM   #1
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religion/god

after reading some really fucking retarded comments from some gfyers i want to ask the question.

if god doesnt exist and religion is just brainwashing then how are you here? how are animals here? how is the earth here? did it just popup out of nowhere from nothing?

i dont know how you can justify your bullshit comments and am intrested in your pov.

you all seem to think you are god, you have very arrogent attitudes and closed minds and are truly brainwashed
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read a science book about the big bang, you'll quickly notice, that just everything can be explained...and space for god gets smaller and smaller...
sorry buddy but the bullshit comes normally from the religious people who think in miracles and denying the scientifical truth at the same time
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if god made us then he made the people that don't believe in god
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read a science book about the big bang, you'll quickly notice, that just everything can be explained...and space for god gets smaller and smaller...
sorry buddy but the bullshit comes normally from the religious people who think in miracles and denying the scientifical truth at the same time
how does something bang if nothing exists?
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how does something bang if nothing exists?
that is the ultimate question...how was matter created out of nothing? this is interesting because it is one of the only times physics is similar to the bible. the universe became from nothing, and the bible tells us the same in genesis.
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I don't need religion to have self-worth. That is a typical misinformaed comment made by religious-types that hate the fact some people have original thoughts and independent beliefs.

While a true god may exist, I definitely believe the common intepretations of god are false. These are manifestations to make ourselves feel less lonely and confused.

I freely accept that I don't have all the answers and it does not trouble me.
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us non believers can't prove that there's no god and you religious people can't prove that there is so it's all a matter of opinion. yet when we (non religious) voice our opinio you (religious people) get all fucking pissy like you can actually prove the existance of god.

I don't need religion in my life in order to live. where we came from and all taht shit is not important enough for me to have to find out. I mean, will it improve your life knowing that? no, it won't. your life will remain the same. BUT preach your god shit to me and you better be ready to hear my "non god" shit". iIf you can't handle that then you just shut the fuck up. We're all free to voice OUR opinion even if we don't believe in god. Just because you may believe in god what the fuck makes you better then everyone else that you're allowed to voice your opinion at anytime anywhere you want?
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how does something bang if nothing exists?
pretty easy to answer:
there never was nothing. There was no very beginning with no matter. We call this infinity. It's just too hard to imagine for our little comprehension, that there are some things that never began and will never end, coz this circle of life determines our whole existance.
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yes Jer that helped a lot...
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"you all seem to think you are god, you have very arrogent attitudes and closed minds and are truly brainwashed "

Even if there is god, what the fuck does it care if we worship it or not? Why would it "need us"?

The reasons why humans worship a god is infinate starting with the word "Control".

But what makes one so certain that God even gives a shit if it is out there?

There is no reason to worship a god.
There is no reason to act on what others have said is "The word of God", "God is Great" etc.

Clearly god does not give a fuck about anyone, watch the news and you will see what I mean.

Clearly the human race would be better off without the thought of god as we all well know that people kill in the name of "God".

Do not mistake Arrogance with intelligence.
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yes Jer that helped a lot...
I'm glad to be able to help. You're welcome.
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My biggest thing about religion is who is anybody to judge anybody else on someone else beliefs. Especially in the U.S. a place where a nation was built on freedom of religion is now contiplating gay marriage as right or wrong. Who fucking cares. A book written by a bunch of people 2000 years ago depicts, what we as a country should allow? And Miracles? Until I see a man walk on fucking water, or raise someone from the dead, I will believe in pussy, at least I can see that. Dont get it wrong I believe in something just no reason to classify it or try and put a name on it.
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after reading some really fucking retarded comments from some gfyers i want to ask the question.

if god doesnt exist and religion is just brainwashing then how are you here? how are animals here? how is the earth here? did it just popup out of nowhere from nothing?

i dont know how you can justify your bullshit comments and am intrested in your pov.

you all seem to think you are god, you have very arrogent attitudes and closed minds and are truly brainwashed
If god does exist, then where did he/she come from? Explaining life with god is an easy way out.
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If god does exist, then where did he/she come from? Explaining life with god is an easy way out.

"Always was and always will be," lol Kind if like hey we are looking for sheep? do you know any?

I always liked sheep and shepard references in the bible,

Are you a sheep? Baaah!
Tell me what to do and I'll do it,

Can we say power and control issues, or a way to scare mass people into listening to you.

2,000 years of whisper down the lane.
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if anyone here ever sat down for five minutes and read a real bible (not a website) it explains things that are happening today, everyone has moved away from god and the world is in a crisis, it explains the things happening in israel and how it will be destroyed, it explains the fall of babylon(iraq)(hasnt fully happened yet), it explains the european union and how it will eat up other countries then be destroyed itself, what do you say about that?

only post here if you have serious intelligent comments, not flames or useless remarks....im intrested on your thoughts
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it also explains these new microchip human implants a lot of people are seeing aswell as tons of other things...
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if anyone here ever sat down for five minutes and read a real bible (not a website) it explains things that are happening today, everyone has moved away from god and the world is in a crisis, it explains the things happening in israel and how it will be destroyed, it explains the fall of babylon(iraq)(hasnt fully happened yet), it explains the european union and how it will eat up other countries then be destroyed itself, what do you say about that?

only post here if you have serious intelligent comments, not flames or useless remarks....im intrested on your thoughts
HEhe its clear your a victim of self fulfilling prophicies.

Babylon has fallen over 5 times in the last 500 years!
Isreal has already been destroy'd 1 time already and then restored!

Yeah Hitlers Regime had Eurupe and it collapsed, oh wait so did Napoleon, and then also Alexander the great and lets not forget the Roman Empire.

You religeous retards just dont get it.
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HEhe its clear your a victim of self fulfilling prophicies.

Babylon has fallen over 5 times in the last 500 years!
Isreal has already been destroy'd 1 time already and then restored!

Yeah Hitlers Regime had Eurupe and it collapsed, oh wait so did Napoleon, and then also Alexander the great and lets not forget the Roman Empire.

You religeous retards just dont get it.
i think babylon will be nuked if you read carefully
israel will be completely destroyed because apparently its not allowed to have its own state because jews are bad people.
hitler has nothing to do with the eu.
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You religeous retards just dont get it.
who says im religious?

because i dare question religion?

i said no stupid comments out my thread
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i think babylon will be nuked if you read carefully
israel will be completely destroyed because apparently its not allowed to have its own state because jews are bad people.
hitler has nothing to do with the eu.
Umm wrong.

Fire and brim stone "Umbrella" logic does not apply. Babylon has
fallen many times and each of course there was fire involved.

Isreal being destroy'd already happened dude.
What don't you understand about that?

Yes Hitler had Europe owned and in the times claimed it with "Unity" in mind.
The Romans had the vision of unity as well with Europe.

Umm...
Wait.

Yeah the end is near guy go on and kill yourself now. Take a good look at them Jim Jones, D. Koresh posters on your walls and the lot of other religeous weirdo's convinced the end of the world is comming...
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Umm wrong.

Fire and brim stone "Umbrella" logic does not apply. Babylon has
fallen many times and each of course there was fire involved.

Isreal being destroy'd already happened dude.
What don't you understand about that?

Yes Hitler had Europe owned and in the times claimed it with "Unity" in mind.
The Romans had the vision of unity as well with Europe.

Umm...
Wait.

Yeah the end is near guy go on and kill yourself now. Take a good look at them Jim Jones, D. Koresh posters on your walls and the lot of other religeous weirdo's convinced the end of the world is comming...
dont post/flame you're an idiot stay the fuck out of my thread im asking for peoples opnions not your garbage.

i didnt know the end was near but thanks for letting me know
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if anyone here ever sat down for five minutes and read a real bible
How many pages would you read in "five minutes"?
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who says im religious?
Your supporting religion and trashing science...what do you call
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here? did it just popup out of nowhere from nothing?
See what happens when you don't finish school.

If you expect to start and be involved in a philosophical discussion then
you have to be educated. Your obviously not.
Your grammar sucks
your spelling sucks
and you don't understand either side...religion nor god

Go away little girl and get the fuck out of this board.
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I didn't read every post here, but I'm sure it's been stated, Evoulution is how we got here. It has more support then religion does and after doing a little reading you can't deny it's the most logical answer. For example back in the early 1900's or so there were light colored moths in what I belive is New York, the city is not important though. They would hide on the trees during the day so the birds wouldn't kill them. However air pollution killed of the lichen they would blend in with and soon the trees were dark and the moths were light and the birds could pick them off during the day.

HOWEVER, the moths developed an adaptive trait in which they became darker and blended in with lichen less trees and were once again camoflauged.

Now this doesn't expalin evolution but it does show the animals adapt to their surrondings. Which is how we got here certain surrondings made the apes adapt and mix genetics and poof humans were born.
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Just to clarify, it was in Britain, not New York.
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I would have to agree. Have you seen the Brazillian women? That's enough proof for me.
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Just to clarify, it was in Britain, not New York.
Thanks, it was bugging me.
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Religion is the same as a person's opinion which is why hey call it a 'Faith.'

Some people have faith in Mohammed being a holy figure.

Is it true, I dunno.

Some people have faith in Buddah being the holy figure.

Is it true... i dunno.

I have faith in my schlong being the great satisfier.

Is it true... well yeah, of course it is. That's why it has so many followers.
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I would have to agree with that ... but id also like to add in a george carlin quote:

"This isnt the work of a supreme being - this is the work of an office temp with a bad attitude. In any well run universe this guy would have been out on his almighty ass years ago"

i happen to agree with this, although technically, im agnostic and have some faith that there might be a god. But religion is a tool to keep stupid people in line - and i dont mind because they are easy people to manipulate. God? we will all find out in time.
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I believe that god has always been a convient way to explain the unexplainable.

If you didn't understand how they were made, the Northern Lights may look like a miracle. We understand how they're created, so we don't think of it as a miracle from god.

As science progresses, and we learn more and more .. Less is left to be "god". Eventually there will be nothing left.

Why do you think religous nuts are so dead set against cloning? If we clone people, and theyr'e healthy .. Then where did they come from? God didn't make them .. And only he can create life, right?

It's all a sham.
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Hmmm.... They took electricity and sparked it in water and you know what happened? The byproduct was amino acids.....the basic building blocks for ALL organic life.
Seems to me, a lightning storm over an ocean can do that!
Whats more, the amino acids, when joined with other amino acids started to mutate, and then break off with the mutated structure in place only to go adhere to another and form another mutation.
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