True, people on GFY act like they're fucking drug professionals or something. The funny thing is most of 'em didn't even try it.

I'm just speaking from experience. I tried almost every drug and I know how they feel and the positive and negative things of it.

It probably just makes you realise that those nights are shit, and you can go out and have a much better time doing other stuff.

Which i'm glad i've now found... :glugglug

Use and addiction or abuse are entirely different animals man.

Sad, isn't it?

when i was in my clubbin days folks used to call me "PILL CLINTON" ;)

5htp is good for everything from depression to weight loss to quitting smoking to sleep. Great stuff. Metabolic precursor to seratonin.

Are you joking?

oh yeah, i remember you... you sold me some bad shit. i want my money back! :1orglaugh

heroin is not mixed in pills. neither is cocaine.

Some people think its cool to be using this stuff. Others are dependent on it.

:eek7

ecstacy.... others like, others don't.

and some people just enjoy it responsibly.

I hate drugs:BangBang:

Sounded great, I was in my lower twenties. Used it many times at raves and it works great for getting laid. Chicks get all euphoric and horney, all you have to do is be standing next to one and your shit is taking her home tonight.

no one is trying to be a "drug professional". It's a discussion. Chill.

It's also YOUR life. If you wanna fuck it up by using drugs, go right ahead. No one is going to stop you.


what were you just saying about acting like a drug professional again?

dont need to go further than the second post in this thread.

I just find it amazing the difference between the conversations people have in this thread.

It goes from very educated to complete idiot.

I havent posted in a while but after re-reading all 6 pages here's my conclusions:

1.) MDMA, which was legal as late as the 1980's, may have unknown effects.

2.) Taking any drug is a risk, either becuase of known effects of the drug, or the risk of not knowing what is in the drug, or for first time users: if you will respond unpredictably to the drug.

3.) There is confusion about the term "ecstacy" or "X" or "e"
From my understanding estacy is MDMA, however you never know what you may be buying.

4.) If your going to use any drug, educate yourself about it first. Know the effects, you'll be much better off when you experience them firsthand. And you'll be better off to help someone that is having a problem with them.

5.) If you're going to use Ecstasy, use a drug testing kit from dancesafe.org. Why risk it?

6.) MDMA releases seratonin , it takes 2-4 weeks for the body to recover from this. Doing MDMA more often then this, is opening yourself up to potential long term damage. Key word: MODERATION

7.) Just like heavy drinkers switch to water to avoid bad effects at the end of the night, X users should watch their body temperature and stay hydrated.

8.) YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR ACTIONS WHILE HIGH.

9.) Please respect those that are choosing to not indulge in your drug of choice.

10.) Know if your drug use has become too much for you, and have the balls to do something about it or ask for help.

:1orglaugh or cut with rat poison.



...or just plain mixed wrong. It's like playing russian roulette, and when you do get dammage from it, it is like unscrewing the top of your head off and running a hand blender through your brain and turning it to jello.

People... check any long-term care or psychiatric facility and you'll see a few former extacy users in every one of them. Want to join them? Either play it smart or take your chances.

That all depends on how you look at it. Do you drink caffinated beverages? Do you drink alchoholic beverages on an occasion? Do you take any medications? Just about everything contains a drug in one form or another.

I am not ever for or against narcotic use, nor am I for or against any entity defining what is legal or illegal to injest. The sorry state of affairs is such that the vast majority of the world's population is on drugs one way or another. Regardless of weather or not it's self medicated or prescribed, most people are on the wrong drugs, for the wrong reasons. Drugs of any form are to life as wind is to fire, too much will blow a fire out, but just enough can rekindle coals into a roaring fire. You can drown yourself by drinking too much water. You can die from alchohol poisoning. There are more ways to lose your life through idiocy than one can count. However, you are also entirely responsible for your every action, and it's consequental reaction.

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Psychedelics are far more controversial than Prozac or even pot - LSD and mushrooms are illegal, of course, and the government regulates them as closely as it does heroin and cocaine - but they have nonetheless wormed their way into many mainstream lives. According to Scott O. Moore, CEO of Slam Media and managing editor of the psychedelic journal The Resonance Project, "Today's users are surgeons, bankers, physicists, computer programmers. They are productive members of society. You can't point your finger at them and say they've dropped out."

-Wired News article following death of phsychonaught Terence McKenna

i just wanna say

http://www.ytcracker.com/images/ytcrackercrew.jpg

but those days are kinda over
i still dj
but im high on life

It depends on the dose the person is consuming.

On average it would take somebody weighing in at 135 pounds 16+ CLEAN MDMA pills to overdose at a near fatal level. Darwinism kids... if you eat 16 pills of anything like that you reap what you've sewn.

been there done that

No one puts rat poison in any drug I can think of.

LSD has been known to have rat poison in it

How many former alcohol abusers are in there with them do you think?

That shit is just bad.. Stay of the drugs

this is precisely the problem with drug supporters/users.

You tend to focus on this one thing only. "any entity defining what is legal or illegal to injest."

That's all good and well..... fine, you're some sort of drug freedom fighter. Whatever makes you feel good.

But what they don't see is the fact that they are gambling with their very lives. And I don't mean just risk of overdose. I mean:


You face addiction. You can profess moderation all you want, and hey, that's great.... but if you're using, you face the possibility of addiction. And more people than not get addicted to shit, rather easily. That is the nature of drugs.

You face losing your freedom. Remember, these drugs you love so much are still ILLEGAL. You can justify it with analogys of alcohol and cigarettes all you want, but the fact remains, alcohol and cigarettes are NOT illegal. If you get nailed using LSD, Coke, X, Weed, etc..... you ARE going to jail. And on a side note, the IRS seizes ALOT of cars and homes because of busted drug users. You don't mind giving that up?

The odds are also, if you use consistently, that at least one other person knows about it. Probably more. And the odds are that they use as well. Your risk just increased exponentially. If THEY get nailed, how confident are you that they are going to sell YOUR ass out to save theirs? Again, you risk your very freedom.

Dealers: Okay, so you say you're just an occasional user.... you don't deal. But it's no secret that illegal drug dealers are not exactly the fucking poster boys for your basic upsatnding citizen. Fuck up a deal, or piss one of them off, and you now face losing your life, your families life, or your property. (again)


Tell me again about how drugs are a good thing?

Are you REALLY willing to gamble all of that just for..... what? Because it "feels awesome dude!"


I say again, drug users are fucking stupid people. You are playing with fucking fire, and sooner or later, it is GOING to burn your ass.


Go ahead..... tell me I'm nuts. I don't know shit. You got it under control. You're not like that. Blah blah blah.









It's YOUR life.

I used to go to raves too but man your crew looks like some X'd out little high school kids .. sorry thats really mean... but true

better days

I'm just giving ya shit

plur man!
plur!!!!!!!!!

cuddlepuddle

If you don't know by now? Let me inform you


I've been practically emotionless and I never even smile anymore since I rolled just 7 or 8 times

If you haven't done it, don't do it once

Cause you'll do it again, Garunteed


Stay the fuck away from it

Scientists are now saying people who take ecstasy develop altimers or whatever it's called up to 30 years early:( :( :( :(

Did it a few times in college, it was the best...

Never touched X, I've always wanted to though.. problem is I've heard of so many horror stories

I saw an ABC special on ecstacy not too long ago that changed my opinon on ecstacy. I suggest everyone who does it, and those who judge people who use ecstacy to watch it.

http://www.pot-tv.net/archive/shows/...owse-2610.html

dude, just dont do it

that last thing you said is 100% false

never tried it. dout i ever will either..

And they're VERY stupid if they use this particular drug.

weak

hah. I think that was found once ever. Kind of like a self fulfilling prophecy of the rumor being repeated so much people believed it and some dumbass actually tried rat poison thinking he'd trip.

oh god, here's another one.

Please share some of the wealth of knowledge you have based this opinion on Rictor.

This thread is never gonna end is it? :)
I must say rakeback made a good summery. :)
I think his summery of this thread needs a repost so here it is.

Good point. Alcohol is the worst drug of them all. It certainly causes the most deaths.

I will echo what has already been said a bunch of times here..MODERATION is the key. I was turned on to E a few years ago in Miami and it has been a great ride. I have had some of the best times at parties listening to some of the best DJs in the world, dancing my ass off and making friends. All it does is release seratonin in the brain, not dissimilar from what Prozac does. Of course, abuse it too much and you can become depressed so that's where the moderation comes in. But all effects are reversable, no permanent effects are known or have been proven.

No one I know has become addicted, I guess this is because its not an addictive drug, phsyically at least. Although some people like the feeling so much, they lose control and feel they have to "roll" like every week or even every day. But like everything else, there are always those who abuse things and give whatever substance it is a bad name.

There is a great site called dancesafe.org which provides pill testing and even sells kits so users can test the quality and purity of their pills before ingesting them. This way you know what you're getting. If you're gonna do it, do it responsibly!

Like many substances including alcohol, it can enhance your life if used in the right circumstances and is not abused.


My two

Amen to that. I ate that shit like it was candy for 2 years WAY back in the day when it very first came on the scene and was still only a powder (and was damn good). Now that stuff is CRAP. Unless your getting raw MDMA from a chemist (and you won't), your never going to get "pure ecstasy" no matter what you have been sold.

I am not joking when I tell you that I now have a slight studder from time to time because of it. When I stopped taking it I started having slight speech problems. It is BAD NEWS. :mad:

Never again. I feel sorry for anyone taking it today. Your messing your brain up.

pills are pretty ok, but hey, this thread is one year old ;p :)