The Definitive thread: Are porn content models prostitutes?

[notjoe]

If you say no you're probably too Naive to be in this business... Get the fuck out while you still can.


Besides that, cast your vote and lets see what the general population of GFY has to say.

[AMADude]

Some are and some are your sister, mom or girlfriend.
Believe me it is true.

[garett]

I guess it depends on your definition. In my opinion they are not.

Edit: edited because I misinterpreted the question originally.

[notjoe]

Originally posted by AMADude
Some are and some are your sister, mom or girlfriend.
Believe me it is true.

Of course, every women is the child of two parents. Every women can be someones mother, sister, or related in some fashion..i dont think they deserve any different names though..

Bottom line is that they still do the dirty for the dough!

[fris]

whatever pays the bills ;)

[beemk]

in a way yes. if they are just posing nude or having sex with someone they would have sex with anyways (i.e. boyfriend or husband) then no they arent.

[zzgundamnzz]

Does it matter if they are or aren't?

[notjoe]

Originally posted by beemk
in a way yes. if they are just posing nude or having sex with someone they would have sex with anyways (i.e. boyfriend or husband) then no they arent.

I agree with you 100%

Solo shoots are different.. There is no sex going on and it can be considered nude modelling.

BF/GF having sex would be an iffy one.. she is still getting paid to fuck but she is fucking her BF/Husbnand...I would have to agree on that and say BF/GF shoots, Nude Modelling would be the exception but, by definition, the BF/BG could still lead the couple to be considered prostitutes since they are accepting money in exchange for sex, although it isnt nearly as bad as being paid to fuck somsone who you have no emotional feelings towards

[Trixie]

So . . . remind me again what the problem is with having sex for money with someone you don't care about (aka "love")??

[eroswebmaster]

by legal definition they are not.

[notjoe]

Originally posted by Trixie
So . . . remind me again what the problem is with having sex for money with someone you don't care about (aka "love")??

Who ever said i have any problem with it? I have absolutely no problems with it at all...

Only think i have a problem with is people trying to sugar coat what it is they really are..


They are not ACTORS, i highly doubt any one gets hired on their Acting abilities when it comes to shooting porn.They're porn stars, prostitutes, people who have sex with other people for money.

(Trixie: This isnt directed to you)
See the situtation for what it really is before it is way too late. If you cannot handle being called a prostitute then i highly doubt that they should be starring in porno films to begin with.

[Trixie Racer]

Originally posted by eroswebmaster
by legal definition they are not.

By dictionary definition they are.

[notjoe]

Originally posted by eroswebmaster
by legal definition they are not.

By legal definition underaged preteen websites who display young children in skimpy clothes is not illegal...


You try to figure out how the law works when it comes to this shit and i'll sit back here and stick to my dictionary definitions and what my morals tell me is right and wrong

[notjoe]

Originally posted by Trixie Racer


By dictionary definition they are.

I hope you win Ms. GFY!

[Trixie]

I absolutely think we are "whores". Many WIVES are whores (marry for money and sell their whole LIFE to a guy, not just an hour or so).

I'm not bothered by being a "whore" -- I am bothered by people who associate selling sex with being "bad" or morally bankrupt. Athletes sell their bodies too yet they're viewed as heroes. People associate whoring with selling out emotionally, ethically, etc. I don't get that. The webmasters here who express shame over their jobs are much bigger sellouts than the content who sells a little of their time to fuck or do whatever on cam.

Notjoe: this isn't directed at you either, just a generalized response to the overall sentiment I'm hearing expressed in a variety of different ways.

[eroswebmaster]

Originally posted by notjoe


By legal definition underaged preteen websites who display young children in skimpy clothes is not illegal...


You try to figure out how the law works when it comes to this shit and i'll sit back here and stick to my dictionary definitions and what my morals tell me is right and wrong

why is it when people can't win a debate they start to throw kids into the mix...scream cp and it all goes away right?

No..you asked if actors in adult filmas are prostitutes..and by legal definition they are not.

If you want them to be and you produce content and live in america you will go to jail if you believe they are.

So sit back with your "morals" and get your tongue ready to toss some salad in jail.

[MichaelP]

Originally posted by eroswebmaster


why is it when people can't win a debate they start to throw kids into the mix...scream cp and it all goes away right?

No..you asked if actors in adult filmas are prostitutes..and by legal definition they are not.

If you want them to be and you produce content and live in america you will go to jail if you believe they are.

So sit back with your "morals" and get your tongue ready to toss some salad in jail.

whatever he said,,

[The Heron]

No way they are all ARTISTS EXPRESSING THEMSELVES!

[Trixie Racer]

Originally posted by Trixie
I absolutely think we are "whores". Many WIVES are whores (marry for money and sell their whole LIFE to a guy, not just an hour or so).

Thank you for bringing that up! IMHO, being a hooker or porn star is much better (and much more honest) than the woman who marries for money.

[TaDoW]

let's be honest... everyone is a whore ... everything has a right price.

[C_U_Next_Tuesday]

Originally posted by Trixie
I absolutely think we are "whores". Many WIVES are whores (marry for money and sell their whole LIFE to a guy, not just an hour or so).

I'm not bothered by being a "whore" -- I am bothered by people who associate selling sex with being "bad" or morally bankrupt. Athletes sell their bodies too yet they're viewed as heroes. People associate whoring with selling out emotionally, ethically, etc. I don't get that. The webmasters here who express shame over their jobs are much bigger sellouts than the content who sells a little of their time to fuck or do whatever on cam.

Notjoe: this isn't directed at you either, just a generalized response to the overall sentiment I'm hearing expressed in a variety of different ways.

right on sister

[Huggles]

Originally posted by Trixie
I am bothered by people who associate selling sex with being "bad" or morally bankrupt. Athletes sell their bodies too yet they're viewed as heroes. People associate whoring with selling out emotionally, ethically, etc. I don't get that. The webmasters here who express shame over their jobs are much bigger sellouts than the content who sells a little of their time to fuck or do whatever on cam.

I wonder what that makes me?


I don't mind being in this business, but I would never, ever, be able to star in porn myself, or date anyone that would. I wouldn't want any of my friends or family doing double anal scenes.

[notjoe]

Originally posted by eroswebmaster

why is it when people can't win a debate they start to throw kids into the mix...scream cp and it all goes away right?

Dont try to change the subject, you threw in stupid legal definitions and so did i.. i suggest you get over having your "Legal Definition" shot down.

Originally posted by eroswebmaster
No..you asked if actors in adult filmas are prostitutes..and by legal definition they are not.
[/B]

So in CA it is legal, what about the rest of the world who doesnt go by what the State of CA has to say but rather the dictionary definition? Take your head out of your ass, there is a whole world out there besides the CA, USA.

Originally posted by eroswebmaster
If you want them to be and you produce content and live in america you will go to jail if you believe they are.
[/B]

That is why i dont pay people to have sex, nor do i produce content.. It's illegal to pay anyone for sex regardless of how its structured. Up here in Canada, when you pay someone for sex its called Prostitution (look it up).

Originally posted by eroswebmaster
So sit back with your "morals" and get your tongue ready to toss some salad in jail. [/B]

I'm not the one who will be in jail, i dont produce porn and i dont have big brother watching my every step. As for my "Morals", they're what tells me underaged preteen sites are wrong, unlike the LAW who seems to thing that exploiting children is ok so long as there isnt sexual acts and there is no nudity..


Thanks for coming out though, your input has been useless as always

[Huggles]

Originally posted by Trixie
Athletes sell their bodies too yet they're viewed as heroes.

Big difference.



Not much skill required to take a facial load, as opposed to winning a Stanley Cup. Not much intense training needed to develop a body required for porn, as opposed to a marathon runner.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Whats wrong with being a prostitute?
I dont get it.

[Peter Romero]

I'm a whore and my price is $8.

But the big question is... could 99% of GFY posters afford a hot bitch like me?

I think not!

So get offa yer high horse.

[eroswebmaster]

This is exactly what's wrong with a big part of this industry...people like you who don't see it as such...an industry.

We are in the business of selling fantasy..fantasy that is protected here in America by our first amendment rights.

But people like you choose to see it in a cheap way. A way that does not ensure it's existence will continue. I don't know you and won't pretend to know what your motives are...but this way of thinking is what seperates the college beer money boys who think porn is cool until they get a real job, from people who are secure enough in themselves in what they do for a living and know that this job is as real as it gets.

Choose to continue to believe the worst you can about this business, and I'll just pass the constitution over to you so you can wipe your ass with it...because if more people with attitudes like yours continue to fill this industries roster that's all it will be worth because you don't have the integrity or the morals to stand up for what's truly right.

[davethetruth]

It all depends on whether or not they have a pimp.

[Edguy!]

I agree that everyone has their price...

Some are just higher than others...

[lexr]

Manwhore and proud!

[Peter Romero]

Originally posted by notjoe


I'm not the one who will be in jail, i dont produce porn and i dont have big brother watching my every step. As for my "Morals", they're what tells me underaged preteen sites are wrong, unlike the LAW who seems to thing that exploiting children is ok so long as there isnt sexual acts and there is no nudity..


Thanks for coming out though, your input has been useless as always

This is an ADULT WEBMASTER FORUM... go troll somewhere else!

Fuckin kids!

[Peter Romero]

Originally posted by lexr
Manwhore and proud!

[notjoe]

Originally posted by AlienQ
Whats wrong with being a prostitute?
I dont get it.

Nothing is wrong as long as you can accept being a prostitute. But if you're getting paid to star in pornos and you think that you're anything more than a prostitute speading their legs to get fuck then there is a problem.

[Huggles]

Originally posted by AlienQ
Whats wrong with being a prostitute?
I dont get it.

Nothing. They are arguing the definition of one.

[Pornopat]

Hmm I geuss when you have sex with another person purely for the cash and nothing else that makes you a whore.


disclaimer: Not saying whores are bad. Just labeling...

[eroswebmaster]

Funny thing someone with such "morals," and high standards has to resort to being a lowly pornographer...that says something about how easily you sell out.

[CDSmith]

Who really gives a shit? This discussion is argumentative only, thus serves no productive point whatsoever. To me, the main difference between the two is that content models serve to fuel the adult industry thus making us all money. Street prostitutes.... don't.

so why would I waste my time sitting here arguing semantics and insisting on calling those that fuel the industry "sluts" and "whores"?? I would have to be fucking braindead to do that.

I have the capacity to show people respect, even if only a little, especitally when most of the content models I've had occasioin to converse with have all shown me a modicum of respect.

Sorry Joe... this is a useless argument. You're right in your black & white definitions and comparissons, but so what?

[icu33774]

This is fuckin funny the man is calling women whores that do porn. Yet he takes the money he makes promoteing these so called" whores" to pay his bill, Feed his kids , And shower his wife with gifts. once again i say you are a hyprocrite

\Hyp"o*crite\, n. [F., fr. L. hypocrita, Gr. ? one who plays a part on the stage, a dissembler, feigner. See Hypocrisy.] One who plays a part; especially, one who, for the purpose of winning approbation of favor, puts on a fair outside seeming; one who feigns to be other and better than he is; a false pretender to virtue or piety; one who simulates virtue or piety

[Gemini]

No options to define pimps as webmasters or vice versa?!

A prostitute makes her own way... a pimp leeches it from her.

Just since everyone wants to be all literal and such.

[notjoe]

Originally posted by eroswebmaster
This is exactly what's wrong with a big part of this industry...people like you who don't see it as such...an industry.

Why dont you go recruit your family members then? The pay would probably be better than whatever it is they're doing now.

Originally posted by eroswebmaster
We are in the business of selling fantasy..fantasy that is protected here in America by our first amendment rights.
[/B]

Yes, you are right on that one!

Originally posted by eroswebmaster
But people like you choose to see it in a cheap way. A way that does not ensure it's existence will continue. I don't know you and won't pretend to know what your motives are...but this way of thinking is what seperates the college beer money boys who think porn is cool until they get a real job, from people who are secure enough in themselves in what they do for a living and know that this job is as real as it gets.
[/B]

Well, i am quite secure in what it is i am doing. I have contracts with major adult studios, im trusted with their content, i have a viable business providing what others need. I dont hide what it is i do from ANYONE, if anyone asks what it is i do i'll tell them straight up....Can you say the same?


Now, stop mashing up what it is i am saying.. I am not saying anything bad about the "Industry" but someone who sells sex is a prostitute, regardless what some small peice of land in the USA has to say. The world DOES NOT GO BY WHAT THE STATE OF CALIFORINA has to say.

My only goal is to prove the definition of a prostitute and how a porn star is one and not slame anyone or the industry as a whole..why you're making it to seem like that is beyond me.

Originally posted by eroswebmaster
Choose to continue to believe the worst you can about this business, and I'll just pass the constitution over to you so you can wipe your ass with it...because if more people with attitudes like yours continue to fill this industries roster that's all it will be worth because you don't have the integrity or the morals to stand up for what's truly right. [/B]

Blah blah blah, you're a fucking idiot and completely changing what the subject of this is about.. This isnt about whether the Adult Industry is right or wrong, this is whether porn should be legal or not. Stop putting words in my mouth.. Where did i ever say anything about the industry in any thread.. All i have said was porn stars are prostitutes and how you came up with all this other bullshit is beyond me.

This is about porn stars being prostitutes and accepting what it is they are.

[Peter Romero]

Originally posted by notjoe


Nothing is wrong as long as you can accept being a prostitute. But if you're getting paid to star in pornos and you think that you're anything more than a prostitute speading their legs to get fuck then there is a problem.

You have some serious GUILT ISSUES about sex kiddo - people are spreading thier legs and fucking for meagar amounts of food, shelter & respect all over the world - they are just in denial about it.

You should try mainstream enetertainment - nothing but sexual harrassment, unfair hiring practices and whoring going on there. Oh, but it's so much more respected... BULLSHIT!!! I've never been sexually harrassed in the adult biz - but almost every agent, casting director, producer & director I ever met in Hollywood asked me to sleep with them - OUTRIGHT - in front of everyone!!!

[Huggles]

Originally posted by CDSmith

Sorry Joe... this is a useless argument. You're right in your black & white definitions and comparissons, but so what?

Yeah. If you don't like carpenders, but you want a patio built, don't call carpenders "blue collar trash" or something along those lines.

If you need these people to make money in your business, don't slag them for keeping your pockets fat. No matter how true or false your statements are about their professions, I doubt they, or anyone, would want their face rubbed in it.

Of course, I'd raise an eyebrow too if someone introduced themselves as an "adult actress".

[Huggles]

Originally posted by POV Porn guy

but almost every agent, casting director, producer & director I ever met in Hollywood asked me to sleep with them - OUTRIGHT - in front of everyone!!!

WTF?

[C_U_Next_Tuesday]

Originally posted by Gemini
No options to define pimps as webmasters or vice versa?!

A prostitute makes her own way... a pimp leeches it from her.

Just since everyone wants to be all literal and such.

good point

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by notjoe


I agree with you 100%

Solo shoots are different.. There is no sex going on and it can be considered nude modelling.

BF/GF having sex would be an iffy one.. she is still getting paid to fuck but she is fucking her BF/Husbnand...I would have to agree on that and say BF/GF shoots, Nude Modelling would be the exception but, by definition, the BF/BG could still lead the couple to be considered prostitutes since they are accepting money in exchange for sex, although it isnt nearly as bad as being paid to fuck somsone who you have no emotional feelings towards

yes there is a difference between cam girls who pose online, nude models, and PORNSLUTS.

i know I was very specific in my wording in other threads on this.

PORN ACTRESSES FUCK LIKE 10+ GUYS A WEEK, surely that classifies them as a slut ;)

I agree 100%, camgirls fucking their hubby online isnt the same, i speak specifically about the girls who make a living scene to scene. PORN SLUTS.

its funny to see some people not even be able to grasp this, even more funny that they consider themselves part of this industry when theyve have neither the experience or the maturity to deal with the realities of an industry or scene such as the LA porn scene.

[notjoe]

Originally posted by Gemini
No options to define pimps as webmasters or vice versa?!

A prostitute makes her own way... a pimp leeches it from her.

Just since everyone wants to be all literal and such.

Good point!

BUT, we're not here selling the girls online are we? AFAIK, we're selling pictures, videos, Pay Per View, shirts, etc etc.. but we DO NOT sell the girl so she can go fuck one of our customers do we?

Maybe those who run escort sites could be called a digitial pimp though?

[stephanie m.]

You cannont lump all porn models together in one category! If a catwalk model is topless and video taped on the catwalk would that make her a prostitute? Is Charlize Theron a porn model becuase she has done topless scenes? If a girl does content with her boyfriend does that make her a whore?

I dont think so. Lumping everyone in the industry into the cheap whore category cheapens it, and I think its shameful! If industry entrepreneurs think that what we do as webmasters and models is shameful, just imagine what the general public thinks of us.

[notjoe]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


yes there is a difference between cam girls who pose online, nude models, and PORNSLUTS.

i know I was very specific in my wording in other threads on this.

PORN ACTRESSES FUCK LIKE 10+ GUYS A WEEK, surely that classifies them as a slut ;)

I agree 100%, camgirls fucking their hubby online isnt the same, i speak specifically about the girls who make a living scene to scene. PORN SLUTS.

its funny to see some people not even be able to grasp this, even more funny that they consider themselves part of this industry when theyve have neither the experience or the maturity to deal with the realities of an industry or scene such as the LA porn scene.

Preach on bro!!

[Fletch XXX]

Look how the porngirls fuck and how often, surely a slut is a slut.

http://www.aim-med.org/Quarantine.html

13 guys in 9 days, DONT YOU CALL ME A SLUT!!!!!!

hahaha

[eroswebmaster]

you're a fucking idiot and completely changing what the subject of this is about.. This isnt about whether the Adult Industry is right or wrong, this is whether porn should be legal or not..

you prove my point right there.."you say this is whether porn should be legal or not"

Show me where prostitution is legal in the US..other than in brothels in Nevada.

If you call it prostitution...and then the courts decide to call it that..then it's not legal...get it?

It's not just about what California calls it...and since you can't seem to figure out important decisions ones that usually affect us positively come from the 9th circuit court in california you're pretty much useless to talk to.