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Babagirls 04-19-2004 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by =^..^=
Um...... if they do allow spamming then won't this thread just alert all the spammers to this fact?
now all the spammer will join Platinum Bucks and you'll get slammed twice as hard

hahaha...... good point there!!! :thumbsup

Platinum Dave 04-19-2004 10:43 AM

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Originally posted by DeanCapture



Oh yea - this is only one board - there are plenty more. I just haven't gotten around to posting to them yet....but I will :Graucho

Settle down now Dean, like seriously you got spammed.

Whoopeed do!

I get 200+ spam a day

Welcome to reality of email

Digipimp 04-19-2004 10:45 AM

The same shit has happened to plenty of us by them. I know that virutally all of these programs allow spammers as long as they make enough money. It wasn't worth my time so I just gave up on it, I still probably get spams from the spam fucking spammer these days I just have my filter set so that I don't ever see them.

I know where they got my email address from and it was another affiliate program they probably traded lists with each other or some shit.

cherrylula 04-19-2004 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by Digipimp
The same shit has happened to plenty of us by them. I know that virutally all of these programs allow spammers as long as they make enough money. It wasn't worth my time so I just gave up on it, I still probably get spams from the spam fucking spammer these days I just have my filter set so that I don't ever see them.

I know where they got my email address from and it was another affiliate program they probably traded lists with each other or some shit.

Are you saying programs actually spam their affiliate email lists, or trade lists to spam?

amazing :1orglaugh

but yeah I get them also, to my silly aol emails I set up just for that purpose, to bust spammy programs.... wheeee

X37375787 04-19-2004 10:50 AM

Fuckin PB has been a haven for spammers for the longest time.

0-Tolerance my anus.

DeanCapture 04-19-2004 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by Platinum Dave


Settle down now Dean, like seriously you got spammed.

Whoopeed do!

I get 200+ spam a day

Welcome to reality of email

Well that's a good response from a company who claims to have a "ZERO-TOLERANCE" against spammers Dave. Thanks for taking a break from counting all that money you make from spammers to post a rediculous response like that?

FUCK OFF LOOOOOOOOOSER!

Digipimp 04-19-2004 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by cherrylula


Are you saying programs actually spam their affiliate email lists, or trade lists to spam?

amazing :1orglaugh

but yeah I get them also, to my silly aol emails I set up just for that purpose, to bust spammers.... wheeee

I thought it was pretty retarded and since I usually label my email address by the name of the program @ my.com I always know where the email is coming from. So when I got spam to an email address that was only used at a certain affiliate program and named after that affiliate program it was pretty simple to figure the rest out.

JFK 04-19-2004 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by Digipimp


I thought it was pretty retarded and since I usually label my email address by the name of the program @ my.com I always know where the email is coming from. So when I got spam to an email address that was only used at a certain affiliate program and named after that affiliate program it was pretty simple to figure the rest out.

I have heard of a few other guys doing the same thing:thumbsup
Narrows down who you have to look for :1orglaugh

mammy 04-19-2004 10:59 AM

there is no place like gfy anywhere else:)

DeanCapture 04-19-2004 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by mammy
there is no place like gfy anywhere else:)
That's fer'sure........

Platinum Dave 04-19-2004 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by DeanCapture


Well that's a good response from a company who claims to have a "ZERO-TOLERANCE" against spammers Dave. Thanks for taking a break from counting all that money you make from spammers to post a rediculous response like that?

FUCK OFF LOOOOOOOOOSER!

Dean I respond nice, no win.

I respond sarcastic no win,

your pissed off and thats the bottom line.

There is nothing I can say or do right now to change that.

Fletch XXX 04-19-2004 11:04 AM

i love the smell of napalm in the morning.

High Quality 04-19-2004 11:07 AM

Dude, get a clue - every affiliate program not only allows spam, it welcomes it.

Would you turn away money? Cmon now

Platinum Dave 04-19-2004 11:08 AM

Before this webmaster sent signups to Platinum Bucks last week

He was mailing another program the week before

and the week before that, this webmaster was mailing another program.

Why dont you slam other programs?

Did we shut down your account or something, you pissed off at us for something else?

Sounds like you are going alittle overboard, I dunno maybe its just me.

So next week when our promotion is over and this webmaster mails someone else, and you get spammed.

Are you going to start another thread?

Like lets get serious here, this webmaster has sent us signups for the first time this month.

Esbee 04-19-2004 11:09 AM

http://www.surbl.org/

DeanCapture 04-19-2004 11:11 AM

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Originally posted by Platinum Dave


Dean I respond nice, no win.

I respond sarcastic no win,

your pissed off and thats the bottom line.

There is nothing I can say or do right now to change that.

Your damn right I'm pissed off. The only response that you haven't tried is the "right one" Dave. The one where you live up to your own rules and regulations regarding spammers promting your product. The one that proves that you have integrity as a good businessman and as a human being. The one that shows everyone here at GFY that your one of the good guys.

All you've done thus far is lie and tip-toe around the truth. And the truth is that you have no intention of enforcing your own TOS in regards to spamming and posting them on your site was a farce. Face it Dave - YOU SUCK! You love spammers, you encourage spamming and you have no intention of shutting down spammers who promote your product. If everyone can't see that already from your responses to my posts - they are fucking blind.

Platinum Dave 04-19-2004 11:16 AM

Dean why is this webmaster spamming?

We have zero complaints from anyone.

Accept you.

Did you signup for some porn sites and PERHAPS got your email in a list?

You know there are several ways to get on a list.

If this webmaster was spamming we are hosting with company that calls us right away and tells us shut this account down.

And we shut it down instantly.

Your just being an ass and feeling powerful today and getting your 2 minutes in the limelight attacking Platinum Bucks

Enjoy it

DeanCapture 04-19-2004 11:16 AM

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Originally posted by Platinum Dave
Before this webmaster sent signups to Platinum Bucks last week

He was mailing another program the week before

and the week before that, this webmaster was mailing another program.

Why dont you slam other programs?

Did we shut down your account or something, you pissed off at us for something else?

Sounds like you are going alittle overboard, I dunno maybe its just me.

So next week when our promotion is over and this webmaster mails someone else, and you get spammed.

Are you going to start another thread?

Like lets get serious here, this webmaster has sent us signups for the first time this month.

Dave, I dont' have an account with you - I have no reason to be pissed off at your for any other reason that what I've stated here. If I had gotten spammed by this prick promoting other programs and they took care of it the way you did - I would have no problem bringing it to the boards. But I've been fortunate in the fact that most people don't like dealing with me and they take immediate action when I report a spammer that is out of control. This guy slammed relentlessly for over a week promoting many of your products. If that's not a clear violationg of your TOS ...then what the fuck is?

DeanCapture 04-19-2004 11:21 AM

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Originally posted by Platinum Dave
Dean why is this webmaster spamming?

We have zero complaints from anyone.

Accept you.

Did you signup for some porn sites and PERHAPS got your email in a list?

You know there are several ways to get on a list.

If this webmaster was spamming we are hosting with company that calls us right away and tells us shut this account down.

And we shut it down instantly.

Your just being an ass and feeling powerful today and getting your 2 minutes in the limelight attacking Platinum Bucks

Enjoy it

Dave, how my email addy got on the list is not the problem bro'. The problem is how you've handled this after I reported to you and several of your employees how I've gotten slammed by this idiot. Adam tells me that he'll take care of it right away. Then he turns around and emails me asking for my email addresses so he can have them removed from the spammers list. What the fuck is that all about? I didn't see that mentioned in your TOS.

Face it Dave - YOU STILL SUCK!

Platinum Dave 04-19-2004 11:22 AM

Dean your not listening

If this webmaster was SPAMMING, I would get complaints.

If I get complaints I terminate accounts.

Spam is serious, we dont play around. Trust me on this.

You are the only person to complain, I am not going to terminate an account over one person complaining.

We were doing you a favour, getting you off this persons list.

This webmaster is not a Platinum Bucks webmaster he sends signups one week then he is gone.

You will be getting spammed for months now, I tried to help you get off this persons list.

Then you flipped out?

Platinum Dave 04-19-2004 11:24 AM

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Originally posted by DeanCapture


Dave, how my email addy got on the list is not the problem bro'. The problem is how you've handled this after I reported to you and several of your employees how I've gotten slammed by this idiot. Adam tells me that he'll take care of it right away. Then he turns around and emails me asking for my email addresses so he can have them removed from the spammers list. What the fuck is that all about? I didn't see that mentioned in your TOS.


Were doing you a favour getting you removed from this list.

Next week he is mailing another program and you get spammed again.

If I get your emails off this webmasters list then you dont get spammed.

Isnt that what you want?

Digipimp 04-19-2004 11:25 AM

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Originally posted by Platinum Dave
Dean your not listening

If this webmaster was SPAMMING, I would get complaints.

If I get complaints I terminate accounts.

Spam is serious, we dont play around. Trust me on this.

You are the only person to complain, I am not going to terminate an account over one person complaining.

We were doing you a favour, getting you off this persons list.

This webmaster is not a Platinum Bucks webmaster he sends signups one week then he is gone.

You will be getting spammed for months now, I tried to help you get off this persons list.

Then you flipped out?

so what are you going to do email the guy and ask him nicely to remove this one guy off his list and then he can go back to spamming? you forget but i had the same issue a few months ago and you said the same thing to me and my email came from a list that you got from another affiliate program.

:winkwink:

Platinum Dave 04-19-2004 11:28 AM

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Originally posted by Digipimp


so what are you going to do email the guy and ask him nicely to remove this one guy off his list and then he can go back to spamming? you forget but i had the same issue a few months ago and you said the same thing to me and my email came from a list that you got from another affiliate program.

:winkwink:

What you mean email came from a list we got from another affiliate program?

I would not dare buy a list off anyone in this time and day with the new environment for spam.

DeanCapture 04-19-2004 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by Platinum Dave


Were doing you a favour getting you removed from this list.

Next week he is mailing another program and you get spammed again.

If I get your emails off this webmasters list then you dont get spammed.

Isnt that what you want?

That's fucking rediculous! Your doing me a favor hahahahaah!
Like he's going to remove my email addresses because you asked him to...and then the next week he'll move on. Com'n Dave - what the fuck are you thinking here man? That's fucking rediculous.

Your not doing me ANY favors - we both know that. If you REALLY want to do me a favor - ban this fucker from promoting your products and send me all the money that he's made since he started slamming your program.

By the way - National Net should have a few emails from me regarding your out of control affiliate. If they haven't contacted you about this already - they dropped the ball then. Either way - it doesn't matter. You still didnt' take care of the situation the way it should have been taken care of.

Digipimp 04-19-2004 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by Platinum Dave


What you mean email came from a list we got from another affiliate program?

I would not dare buy a list off anyone in this time and day with the new environment for spam.

well like i said i usually name my email addresses after the program that i am signing up for, so i know exactly where the emails are coming from.

it's done i don't care, i know it makes you guys money and i'm not going to go crazy over it like dean.

Plan9 04-19-2004 11:30 AM

All I'm going to say is, this doesn't sound like "zero tolerance" to me. We're all used to spam, I think due to the fact that Dean is pretty pissed here you may be missing the fact of why he's pissed off:

Its not that he's getting the spam, its that you guys won't do anything about it? Zero tolerence is not asking Dean for his email so he can be removed from the spammers list - zero tolerance is deleting his affiliate account as soon as Dean sends you guys proof. :2 cents:

Zero Tolerance (.n)
The policy or practice of not tolerating undesirable behavior, such as violence or illegal drug use, especially in the automatic imposition of severe penalties for first offenses.

Oracle Porn 04-19-2004 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by Platinum Dave


Were doing you a favour getting you removed from this list.

Next week he is mailing another program and you get spammed again.

If I get your emails off this webmasters list then you dont get spammed.

Isnt that what you want?

He wants you to close the account of the spammer in question.
Dude are you slow or something?

DeanCapture 04-19-2004 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by Platinum Dave


What you mean email came from a list we got from another affiliate program?

I would not dare buy a list off anyone in this time and day with the new environment for spam.

It's common knowledge that all you sponsor programs sleep with one another - buying each others lists, mailing for each other, trading lists etc..etc..etc. Don't act like your one of the good guys here - you've already proven otherwise.

Platinum Dave 04-19-2004 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by Plan9
All I'm going to say is, this doesn't sound like "zero tolerance" to me. We're all used to spam, I think due to the fact that Dean is pretty pissed here you may be missing the fact of why he's pissed off:

Its not that he's getting the spam, its that you guys won't do anything about it? Zero tolerence is not asking Dean for his email so he can be removed from the spammers list - zero tolerance is deleting his affiliate account as soon as Dean sends you guys proof. :2 cents:

Zero Tolerance (.n)
The policy or practice of not tolerating undesirable behavior, such as violence or illegal drug use, especially in the automatic imposition of severe penalties for first offenses.

But then you are saying that Dean is the JUDGE and JURY and EXCACUTIONER for this webmaster.

DeanCapture 04-19-2004 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by Oracle Porn


He wants you to close the account of the spammer in question.
Dude are you slow or something?

Hahahaahah - I was wondering the same thing. Does Dave have brain damage or something? Should I call in a specialists to communicate with him? Is he dealing with a whole deck of cards here? Is he one short of a six-pack? :1orglaugh

DeanCapture 04-19-2004 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by Platinum Dave


But then you are saying that Dean is the JUDGE and JURY and EXCACUTIONER for this webmaster.

No - he's saying that I sent you proof bitch and YOU SHOULD HAVE SHUT DOWN THIS FUCKERS ACCOUNT FOR SPAMMING WHICH IS AGAINST YOUR TERMS OF SERVICE.

MAYBE YOU SHOULD HAVE SOMEONE IN YOUR OFFICE WHO HAS A FUCKING CLUE TO INTERPRET MY POSTS. APPARENTLY YOU ARE SMOKING GANJA OR SOMETHING CAUSE YOU CAN'T SEEM TO WRAP YOUR HEAD AROUND THE FUCKING PROBLEM HERE DUDE.

Platinum Dave 04-19-2004 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by DeanCapture


It's common knowledge that all you sponsor programs sleep with one another - buying each others lists, mailing for each other, trading lists etc..etc..etc. Don't act like your one of the good guys here - you've already proven otherwise.

No Dean you are assuming you are proving otherwise.

We NEVER NEVER NEVER buy other lists, or trade lists.

We run Free Pass Bucks, I pay $1.00 per confirmed email

you think I am going to trade that list to anyone? Fuck No!

You must be kidding.

Really Dean, maybe you dont actually know as much as you think.

Can we move on yet?

Babel 04-19-2004 11:38 AM

Dean, your beating on a dead horse, it's not going to change anything about the way everyone runs their businesses

Esbee 04-19-2004 11:39 AM

Out of curiosity, is the spammer in question the guy redirecting through netsite686.com?

DeanCapture 04-19-2004 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by Platinum Dave
Really Dean, maybe you dont actually know as much as you think. Can we move on yet?
Well Dave, I never claimed to know it all. But I do know that you still SUCK and your a worthless piece of dog-shit for sleeping with spammers the way you do and for not enforcing your own TOS.

Now, you can move on if you want to but I'm not finished letting everyone know how bad you suck. You have my email addy cause I sent you a complaint last night. If you have anything that you would like to discuss with me in private shoot me an email. Until that time - FUCK OFF!

Platinum Dave 04-19-2004 11:44 AM

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Originally posted by DeanCapture


You have my email addy cause I sent you a complaint last night. If you have anything that you would like to discuss with me in private shoot me an email. Until that time - FUCK OFF!

Ok sounds good, anything you need to contact me about you know my email also.

If you want to be removed from his list. Shoot me your email I will still try to get your removed.

Even after your assult on my Program, I still will attempt to get you off the list.

TheLegacy 04-19-2004 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by Platinum Dave


No Dean you are assuming you are proving otherwise.

We NEVER NEVER NEVER buy other lists, or trade lists.

We run Free Pass Bucks, I pay $1.00 per confirmed email

you think I am going to trade that list to anyone? Fuck No!

You must be kidding.

Really Dean, maybe you dont actually know as much as you think.

Can we move on yet?


Guys I understand what you are saying - but I have known dave for a little over a year now and he is a good man - and platinum is a decent organization to work for and to be apart of.

I think this is best sorted on with a phone call rather than on the boards. I do like the people at platinum very much, and despite what you may feel - try and work with them and you will find they are trying to work with their webmasters and have a great respect from others in this industry.

Call Dave and sort it out - please - Platinum is a great organisation and does not deserve this

DeanCapture 04-19-2004 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by Babel
Dean, your beating on a dead horse, it's not going to change anything about the way everyone runs their businesses
Well I certainly don't expect Dave to change his shady business practices because of somethng I posted here. But I do hope that he feels a little bit of the frustration that I've felt over the last week dealing with an asshole affiliate of his that's been slamming me promoting Dave's program.

I only wish he would step up to the plate and admit the his company sleep with spammers and that they have no intention of shutting down spammers accounts even though they clearly have said this in their TOS. I guess asking Dave to take responsibility for his actions and the way his company does business is a little too much to ask huh?

torrey 04-19-2004 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by Babel


Translation:

Zero Tolerance to any spammer that don't make us money !

Thats probably accurate. :2 cents:

Platinum Dave 04-19-2004 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by DeanCapture


I only wish he would step up to the plate and admit the his company sleep with spammers and that they have no intention of shutting down spammers accounts even though they clearly have said this in their TOS. I guess asking Dave to take responsibility for his actions and the way his company does business is a little too much to ask huh?

I think you need to stop joining Porn Sites and getting on these lists.

We are not sleeping with Spammers, National Net is very tough on spam and they definately would not allow us to Sleep with Spammers.

Exagerate some more now will ya

username 04-19-2004 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by alias
stop whining

http://radio.weblogs.com/0115787/ima...20Whining.jpeg

DeanCapture 04-19-2004 11:52 AM

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Originally posted by TheLegacy



Guys I understand what you are saying - but I have known dave for a little over a year now and he is a good man - and platinum is a decent organization to work for and to be apart of.

I think this is best sorted on with a phone call rather than on the boards. I do like the people at platinum very much, and despite what you may feel - try and work with them and you will find they are trying to work with their webmasters and have a great respect from others in this industry.

Call Dave and sort it out - please - Platinum is a great organisation and does not deserve this

Yea - I'm sure Dave is a wonderful guy! But if you try to get any action taken against spammers slamming his product - he suddently turns into a total prick. All he had to do was reply to my message and tell me that the account had been shut down - I would have been happy with that. Hell, he could have even lied to me and told me that just to get me off his back. But instead, he decides to not enforce his own TOS and decides that instead of shutting down the account...he'll do me a favor and ask the spammer to remove my email addy from his list. What the fuck kind of reponse is this? That's just fucking rediculous.....

Platinum Dave 04-19-2004 11:52 AM

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Originally posted by username



http://radio.weblogs.com/0115787/ima...20Whining.jpeg

Perfect.

And I didnt say it Dean

torrey 04-19-2004 11:53 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX
i love the smell of napalm in the morning.
:1orglaugh Classic. :thumbsup

DeanCapture 04-19-2004 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by Platinum Dave


I think you need to stop joining Porn Sites and getting on these lists.

We are not sleeping with Spammers, National Net is very tough on spam and they definately would not allow us to Sleep with Spammers.

Exagerate some more now will ya

Joining porn sites is not the only way to get on a list you dip-shit. I guess all the spam you get was because you joined porn sites? What did you say you get about 200 a day? Fuck - that' a lot of fucking porn sites Dave. What are you some kind of fucking perv or something?

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SetTheWorldonFire 04-19-2004 11:54 AM

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Platinum Dave 04-19-2004 11:55 AM

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Originally posted by DeanCapture


Yea - I'm sure Dave is a wonderful guy! But if you try to get any action taken against spammers slamming his product - he suddently turns into a total prick. All he had to do was reply to my message and tell me that the account had been shut down - I would have been happy with that. Hell, he could have even lied to me and told me that just to get me off his back. But instead, he decides to not enforce his own TOS and decides that instead of shutting down the account...he'll do me a favor and ask the spammer to remove my email addy from his list. What the fuck kind of reponse is this? That's just fucking rediculous.....

You are "ONE" "1" "UNNO" person complaining about this webmaster.

DeanCapture 04-19-2004 11:58 AM

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Originally posted by Platinum Dave


You are "ONE" "1" "UNNO" person complaining about this webmaster.


So what does that mean Dave? How many complaints do you need before enforcing your own TOS? You can beat around the bush all you want to but you know as well as I do that your fucked on this one. It doesn't matter if it's one or one hundred....I forwarded you guys the spam and instead of honoring your own TOS you chose to kiss your spammers ass instead. Way to go Dave :thumbsup

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