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baddog 04-19-2004 01:11 AM

not since I was arrested for possession of a concealed weapon and possession of a loaded weapon in a public place

smack 04-19-2004 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPheer


yeah so shoot your camera and kill someone next door

learn some gun responsibility & safety, jesus fuckin christ


well if you really wanna get into it here's all the info. my computer sits against a brick wall. if i shoot my camera, fuck it i don't care. not to mention that it is a smith and wesson, it has an external safety and i made damn sure it was on and that i wasn't putting any pressure on the trigger. and for the finish i use low penetration hollow points so i doubt richochet would have been much of a concern. i'm very adamant about gun safety. think before you speak. there are safe ways to get good pictures.

phatzaneŽ 04-19-2004 01:13 AM

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Originally posted by sean416



lol. im not going around saying im some big gangsta or whatever, My uppity white ass doesnt claim any sets. Only reason why im living here is because my beacon score is low and dont have a co-signer to live elsewhere. I'm a white boy born and raised in winnipeg manitoba in one of the richest neighborhoods.

All im saying is scarborough is "bad" neighborhood. Lots of murders and always on the news and stuff. But I have never thought of buying a gun to protect myself.

i'm just playing with you. i know scarborough some area's are hard as fuck. some area's are fit for my grandma. but where do the smart ones go when it's robbing time? someone else's neighborhood. but know this. i know a dozen people with more than one gun in their house, they dont carry it like the US, but they are here. and im willing to bet toronto has a hell of a lot more illegal guns than vancouver! on the other hand, its sometimes better to not have one on you, you most likely wont be in that kind of a position where someone would shoot you for the simple fact of seeing it.

smack 04-19-2004 01:14 AM

FYI my gun doesn't fire when there is no clip in it. even if there is a round in the chamber.

CamChicks 04-19-2004 01:17 AM

You understand this is why people think Americans are crazy, right?

And you understand that you're far more likely to kill yourself
than face this crazed killer boogeyman you're all so afraid of . . ?

Stop listening to rap music and check out some real statistics.

And please, if you do own a gun, stop posing for pictures with it.
It makes you look like a wanker. :2 cents:

chaze 04-19-2004 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by phatzaneŽ


i'm just playing with you. i know scarborough some area's are hard as fuck. some area's are fit for my grandma. but where do the smart ones go when it's robbing time? someone else's neighborhood. but know this. i know a dozen people with more than one gun in their house, they dont carry it like the US, but they are here. and im willing to bet toronto has a hell of a lot more illegal guns than vancouver! on the other hand, its sometimes better to not have one on you, you most likely wont be in that kind of a position where someone would shoot you for the simple fact of seeing it.

WTF scarborough is a variation of my family name?

Are you serious.

Holly 04-19-2004 01:18 AM

It has nothing to do with my neighborhood, which is why I rarely bring it into the house. I live in a nice area and there is 0 crime. There's never been a homicide/murder here and I doubt there's been a break-in in years. I never lock my front door when I go out during the day/evening and I leave my car unlocked with the keys in it, every single night.

I feel 100% safe at home. It's when I have to go into the city, on a trip, or somewhere away from the area where I live, that I want to have it. And I do have a permit and we're allowed to carry a concealed weapon if you have one.

smack 04-19-2004 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CamChicks
You understand this is why people think Americans are crazy, right?

And you understand that you're far more likely to kill yourself
than face this crazed killer boogeyman you're all so afraid of . . ?

Stop listening to rap music and check out some real statistics.

And please, if you do own a gun, stop posing for pictures with it.
It makes you look like a wanker. :2 cents:

1.) i listen to punk rock.

2.) people who kill themselves with their own guns are idiots. it's a good thing they're dead so we don't have them negatively effecting our world.

3.) i would rather look like a wanker with my firearm than be dead, stabbed, shot and left in alley somewhere.

kowntafit 04-19-2004 01:20 AM

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Originally posted by KRL
In today's world? You gotta be crazy not to.
Especially if everyone thinks like you.

Do you seriously take a gun with you everywhere you go?

Mr Pheer 04-19-2004 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by smack
FYI my gun doesn't fire when there is no clip in it. even if there is a round in the chamber.
Your finger outside the trigger guard is the real safety, plus having a round chambered when you're not intending to shoot is just irresponsible. Please, take a safety class for everyone else's sake.

sean416 04-19-2004 01:23 AM

50 gun slingers

phatzaneŽ 04-19-2004 01:25 AM

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Originally posted by chaze


WTF scarborough is a variation of my family name?

Are you serious.

i dont get it :helpme

smack 04-19-2004 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPheer


Your finger outside the trigger guard is the real safety, plus having a round chambered when you're not intending to shoot is just irresponsible. Please, take a safety class for everyone else's sake.

can you not read?



the gun IS NOT CAPABLE OF FIRING WITH CLIP REMOVED. additionally.

Quote:

well if you really wanna get into it here's all the info. my computer sits against a brick wall. if i shoot my camera, fuck it i don't care. not to mention that it is a smith and wesson, it has an external safety and i made damn sure it was on and that i wasn't putting any pressure on the trigger. and for the finish i use low penetration hollow points so i doubt richochet would have been much of a concern. i'm very adamant about gun safety. think before you speak. there are safe ways to get good pictures.

junction 04-19-2004 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ironhorse
I'm shopping for one, these are dangerous times and you never know when you will need a weapon to defend yourself and your loved ones..

Also my daugher is almost of dating age, so I have to make an impression on all those horny bastards. Here's what I'm thinking about

http://matrix.dumpshock.com/raygun/f...img/m1_tac.jpg

or

http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/imag...ns/013233l.jpg

Is that the Benelli M1 Super 90 or the new legal one? I own the M1 Super 90. Great gun. I got it just prior to the ban on it.

Mr Pheer 04-19-2004 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by smack
Please be realistic. A safety is mechanical, it can fail, and relying on it is irresponsible.

You may have thought you looked cool, but instead you showed what shouldnt be done. Congrats.

I've been around firearms all my life, I have seen safety devices fail and people get seriously hurt. Its not pretty, and neither are the legal complications that follow :2 cents:

smack 04-19-2004 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPheer


Please be realistic. A safety is mechanical, it can fail, and relying on it is irresponsible.

You may have thought you looked cool, but instead you showed what shouldnt be done. Congrats.

I've been around firearms all my life, I have seen safety devices fail and people get seriously hurt. Its not pretty, and neither are the legal complications that follow :2 cents:

well then i guess we're just going have to agree to disagree. worst case scenario, i shot myself, oh well.

time to watch cspan and pass out.

chaze 04-19-2004 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by smack


well then i guess we're just going have to agree to disagree. worst case scenario, i shot myself, oh well.

time to watch cspan and pass out.

Yep life sucks death can't be worse.

CamChicks 04-19-2004 01:43 AM

imagination excercise:

think about every country you've ever seen where people carry guns in the streets.

think about every country you know of where people do not do that.

generally speaking, which of those groups are safer places to live?

:helpme
If you really don't know the (obvious) answer, go to www.nationmaster.com

I know you think YOU are responsible and YOU are not a criminal,
but if you defend your 'right' to bring a gun to 7-11 then you are also
defending every white trash tweeker and wannabe gangsters 'right'.

I don't care if you want to keep a gun beside the bed if it makes you sleep better,
but it's just stupid (and should be illegal) to take it with you drinking at the club.

Mr Pheer 04-19-2004 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CamChicks
but it's just stupid (and should be illegal) to take it with you drinking at the club.
It is illegal to do that. its also illegal to carry one into the secured area of an airport, a place of worship, a school, a hospital, an amusement park, and any place with a sign that says firearms are prohibited.

BrettJ 04-19-2004 01:49 AM

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Originally posted by Holly
It has nothing to do with my neighborhood, which is why I rarely bring it into the house.
hey holly,

i have to say - leaving your gun in the car is a BAD move. Bad enough when it's parked in your driveway (assuming it isn't parked in a locked garage) - But made even worse - if you only take it with you - at certain destinations but not at others.

Just seems like you're opening up possibilities for somebody to break into your car - and get ahold of your pistol.

~Brett

CamChicks 04-19-2004 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPheer


It is illegal to do that. its also illegal to carry one into the secured area of an airport, a place of worship, a school, a hospital, an amusement park, and any place with a sign that says firearms are prohibited.

Police patrol the streets. That's where they can stop people before violent crimes take place.
Nobody robs the airport cinnabon stand. Same concept.

We would have less people carrying guns around ready for an arguement (as someone in this thread said, almost hoping someone gives you a reason to use it) if it was more likely that the next time you got pulled over you could face a heavy sentance for posession of a concealed weapon.

IMO it should be treated like drunk driving.
Even going so far as to set up occasional roadblocks to search for weapons.
This would get guns out of the hands of gangs and criminals,
while leaving your right to defend your home unaffected.
There's no reason our muder rate couldn't be similar to other civilized nations.

Mr Pheer 04-19-2004 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CamChicks


Police patrol the streets. That's where they can stop people before violent crimes take place.
Nobody robs the airport cinnabon stand. Same concept.

In a perfect world, that would be nice.

But, have you ever seen a cop around when you need one? They cant be everywhere at once.

CamChicks 04-19-2004 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPheer


In a perfect world, that would be nice.

But, have you ever seen a cop around when you need one? They cant be everywhere at once.


They don't need to be everywhere. They just need to check the streets often enough to discourage people from carrying weapons to public places. To prevent gangsters rolling with their crew from packing. Over time, a lot of criminals guns would be confiscated.

People who keep their guns at home are still protected.

I would exempt hunting rifles from this prohibition because there is a reason you need to transport them, and they cannot be easily carried around without alerting the world to the fact that you have a gun.

BRISK 04-19-2004 02:27 AM

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Originally posted by CamChicks
And please, if you do own a gun, stop posing for pictures with it. It makes you look like a wanker. :2 cents:
So true. It's understandable to carry protection, but all the tough guy poses with their guns are lame.

Fact: owning a gun doesn't make you a tough guy.

pimplink 04-19-2004 03:09 AM

I don't really like guns....

EscortBiz 04-19-2004 03:15 AM

if you do carry make sure you practice and know how to operate it real well or that barrel will end up in your ass.

erehwon 04-19-2004 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CamChicks
I know you think YOU are responsible and YOU are not a criminal, but if you defend your 'right' to bring a gun to 7-11 then you are also defending every white trash tweeker and wannabe gangsters 'right'.

I don't care if you want to keep a gun beside the bed if it makes you sleep better, but it's just stupid (and should be illegal) to take it with you drinking at the club.

Poke around Packing.org and you will see the number of hoops someone has to jump through to get a CCW permit, its not like going to the gun store and picking out a Dirty Harry special and holstering it under your jacket.

Lets take Nevada for instance...

http://www.packing.org/state/index.jsp/nevada

1. Any person may apply to the sheriff of the county in which he resides for a permit on a form prescribed by regulation of the department. Application forms for permits must be furnished by the sheriff of each county upon request.

2. Except as otherwise provided in this section, the sheriff shall issue a permit for one or more specific firearms to any person who is qualified to possess a firearm under state and federal law, who submits an application in accordance with the provisions of this section and who:


(a) Is a resident of this state;
(b) Is 21 years of age or older;
(c) Is not prohibited from possessing a firearm pursuant to NRS 202.360; and
(d) Demonstrates competence with a firearm by presenting a certificate or other d0cumentation to the sheriff which shows that he:

(1) Successfully completed a course in firearm safety approved by a sheriff in this state; or
(2) Successfully completed a course in firearm safety offered by a federal, state or local law enforcement agency, community college, university or national organization that certifies instructors in firearm safety. Such a course must include instruction in the use of each firearm to which the application pertains and in the laws of this state relating to the proper use of a firearm. A sheriff may not approve a course in firearm safety pursuant to subparagraph (1) unless he determines that the course meets any standards that are established by the Nevada Sheriffs and Chiefs Association, or if the Nevada Sheriffs and Chiefs Association ceases to exist, its legal successor.

Beginning 10/01/01 Non Residents Can apply for a Nevada Non resident permit. Non Residents must apply the same as Residents. They must appear in person at any Sheriffs Office.

-=-

There's a book written by John Lott called, More Guns, Less Crime: Understanding Crime and Gun-Control Laws (Studies in Law and Economics) and to put it into 'Cliff Notes' form for you, and pardon the Amazon cut and paste job...

Professor Lott gathered data on crime from all counties in the United States for over twenty years and compares the data with the passage of concealed weapons legislation. The results are astounding. Lott conclusively shows, by controlling for a wide range of other possible causes, that it is the ability of law abiding citizens to carry concealed guns that leads to dramatic drops in crime in states that enacted these laws.

This occurence is perfectly logical. By increasing the probability that the potential criminal will face a negative result, (he will be shot with a gun) a risk averse potential criminal may well be deterred from engaging in criminal activity.

To put it simpler; if 1 in 20 people decide to carry a concealed handgun on their person, the potential criminal faces a 5% chance that he will face a victim that will be able to defend himself quite adequately. The reduction in crime, as expected, increases as the number of citizens carrying concealed hanguns increases.

Funny thing, I live within walking distance from the murder capital of the U.S., (Chicago had 599 murders in 2003, down from 648 a year earlier and the first time since 1967 that the total dipped below 600) yet the mayor and the governor don't belive law-abiding citizens should be able to carry concealed.

Ask me if I feel safe and secure walking the streets at night unarmed, would you feel secure knowing those stats?

CyberTraffic 04-19-2004 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by erehwon


Poke around Packing.org and you will see the number of hoops someone has to jump through to get a CCW permit, its not like going to the gun store and picking out a Dirty Harry special and holstering it under your jacket.

Lets take Nevada for instance...

http://www.packing.org/state/index.jsp/nevada

1. Any person may apply to the sheriff of the county in which he resides for a permit on a form prescribed by regulation of the department. Application forms for permits must be furnished by the sheriff of each county upon request.

2. Except as otherwise provided in this section, the sheriff shall issue a permit for one or more specific firearms to any person who is qualified to possess a firearm under state and federal law, who submits an application in accordance with the provisions of this section and who:


(a) Is a resident of this state;
(b) Is 21 years of age or older;
(c) Is not prohibited from possessing a firearm pursuant to NRS 202.360; and
(d) Demonstrates competence with a firearm by presenting a certificate or other d0cumentation to the sheriff which shows that he:

(1) Successfully completed a course in firearm safety approved by a sheriff in this state; or
(2) Successfully completed a course in firearm safety offered by a federal, state or local law enforcement agency, community college, university or national organization that certifies instructors in firearm safety. Such a course must include instruction in the use of each firearm to which the application pertains and in the laws of this state relating to the proper use of a firearm. A sheriff may not approve a course in firearm safety pursuant to subparagraph (1) unless he determines that the course meets any standards that are established by the Nevada Sheriffs and Chiefs Association, or if the Nevada Sheriffs and Chiefs Association ceases to exist, its legal successor.

Beginning 10/01/01 Non Residents Can apply for a Nevada Non resident permit. Non Residents must apply the same as Residents. They must appear in person at any Sheriffs Office.

-=-

There's a book written by John Lott called, More Guns, Less Crime: Understanding Crime and Gun-Control Laws (Studies in Law and Economics) and to put it into 'Cliff Notes' form for you, and pardon the Amazon cut and paste job...

Professor Lott gathered data on crime from all counties in the United States for over twenty years and compares the data with the passage of concealed weapons legislation. The results are astounding. Lott conclusively shows, by controlling for a wide range of other possible causes, that it is the ability of law abiding citizens to carry concealed guns that leads to dramatic drops in crime in states that enacted these laws.

This occurence is perfectly logical. By increasing the probability that the potential criminal will face a negative result, (he will be shot with a gun) a risk averse potential criminal may well be deterred from engaging in criminal activity.

To put it simpler; if 1 in 20 people decide to carry a concealed handgun on their person, the potential criminal faces a 5% chance that he will face a victim that will be able to defend himself quite adequately. The reduction in crime, as expected, increases as the number of citizens carrying concealed hanguns increases.

Funny thing, I live within walking distance from the murder capital of the U.S., (Chicago had 599 murders in 2003, down from 648 a year earlier and the first time since 1967 that the total dipped below 600) yet the mayor and the governor don't belive law-abiding citizens should be able to carry concealed.

Ask me if I feel safe and secure walking the streets at night unarmed, would you feel secure knowing those stats?

That's interesting.

wdsguy 04-19-2004 10:30 AM

my 9mm is under my pillow

ColBigBalls 04-19-2004 10:33 AM

OK YOUR ALL FUCKED lol

In canada if you just "carried A sidearm" you would be classed as a fucktard. Just dosent happen up here cause there is no point.:glugglug

Lucy 04-19-2004 10:39 AM

i don't have a gun, guns make me nervous:BangBang:

Firehorse 04-19-2004 10:42 AM

I live on an Island state of Australia that suffered the biggest massacre by a lone gun man in the recorded history of the world a few years ago.

Needless to say we have really strict gun laws and as a result no one I know carries a gun. Which is very in keeping with this place because we have the cleanest air and water in the world and more protected wilderness than the whole of the U.S.. It is paradise and guns would just fuck it up.

Here this works: "The most powerful weapon in the world is a focussed mind." - Bruce Lee

KRL 04-19-2004 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ironhorse
I'm shopping for one, these are dangerous times and you never know when you will need a weapon to defend yourself and your loved ones..

Also my daugher is almost of dating age, so I have to make an impression on all those horny bastards. Here's what I'm thinking about
or

http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/imag...ns/013233l.jpg

What brand and model is that one above? Gorgeous gun!!

Phoenix 04-19-2004 10:46 AM

no one here has guns...except for some criminals


i wouldnt mind having one, for in the home...but not to carry around with me..that is crazy..if you get caught with a handgun here you are looking at time.

MarkTiarra 04-19-2004 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CyberTraffic
I don't, and don't think I ever will unless it becomes a necessity. Just never grew up around em, same as drinking; one would think.

If you do, what is it and why?


I have a few... Ruger Mag. 357 revolver, Rifle and Shotgun. I only use them for target shooting because I just happen to enjoy it. The Ruger is kepy locked up. The rifle and shotgun are in peices until I put them together to go shoot at pieces of paper.

C_U_Next_Tuesday 04-19-2004 10:49 AM

I used to, but don't find myself in situations that are dangerous anymore...unless I am backpacking alone.. I think that is about the only place I will carry

never know when a bear is gonna try to eat you :(

C-Bass 04-19-2004 10:56 AM

24/7 baby....


my heat is rigth between my legs :Graucho

cool1 04-19-2004 11:01 AM

No guns here.
I now live in one of the roughest areas of Winnipeg and even some of the hardest gang members here don't carry guns that often.
knifes are more the weapon of choice here.

Niko Bimini 04-19-2004 12:18 PM

http://www.biminibucks.com/ar15.wmv


Niko B!!!! Bringin the heat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:BangBang:

J-Reel 04-19-2004 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bimini
http://www.biminibucks.com/ar15.wmv


Niko B!!!! Bringin the heat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:BangBang:


Get her Nik!!!

LOL You hunting for Bambi? :1orglaugh


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