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LOLOriginally posted by REßEL
This thread needs some ass kissing!
Go kiss hanks ass http://jhuger.com/kisshank.mv (he'll give you a million dollars if you do)
That is totally the mentality of these religious fanatics, they need so much to believe in somthing that they will ignor all evidence that proves otherwise and pass it off as hearsay because it goes beyond thier belief system....I guess ignorance is blissComment
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Wrong.Originally posted by TurboTrucker
Agnostic.
Atheist.
An atheist is a person with no theistic belief.Comment
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You are incorrect. Atheist is a person who believes with certainty that there is no God. Agnostic - "One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God."
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Depends on your deffinition of correct. One deffinition of atheist is "A godless person".Originally posted by TurboTrucker
You are incorrect. Atheist is a person who believes with certainty that there is no God. Agnostic - "One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God."Comment
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Well if there is a God, then I'm not Godless am I.Comment
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interesting. so atheism is still a belief... albeit in no god?Originally posted by TurboTrucker
You are incorrect. Atheist is a person who believes with certainty that there is no God. Agnostic - "One who believes that it is impossible to know whether there is a God."Comment
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Some atheists claim this, yes.Originally posted by $5 submissions
interesting. so atheism is still a belief... albeit in no god?
But at its core, atheism is a lack of belief in god.
Look at the word. A-theism. Without theism.Last edited by Joe Citizen; 04-17-2004, 08:38 PM.Comment
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I guess the dispositive element is the "ism" at the end of "atheism" which means "belief."
What's the word for NO belief? Skeptic?
Originally posted by Joe Citizen
Some atheists claim this, yes.
But at its core, atheism is a lack of belief in god.
Look at the word. A-theism. Without theism.Comment
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GOD IS DEAD
... be happy
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The 'ism' is part of the word 'theism'.Originally posted by $5 submissions
I guess the dispositive element is the "ism" at the end of "atheism" which means "belief."
What's the word for NO belief? Skeptic?
As I said before, the word for "no belief" is a-theism. Which literally means, without theism.Last edited by Joe Citizen; 04-18-2004, 12:00 AM.Comment
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Originally posted by xxxoutsourcing
Prove he does not....
If a guy has a load of fucking cash and he knows he's powerfull and rich and you say to him prove it, he's gonna look at you and say.... what a prick, he needs to prove to you for why?
Now lets say there is a god and you say ... "hey bro prove to me you are real...."
What he can say...well what's he gonna say.
Well strike me down in lightning bolts please....
hardly any wealthy guy demands you submit to their will and kiss their arse without giving you a proper reason though.
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Man I don't know who the fuck you think you are but you're an idiot
Atheists are probably closer to the truth than being brainwashed by a man made bible of story tales
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Originally posted by TGPslut
ummm no... if Congres accepts a certain law... and in 10 years they accept a new law that says the other law is not of this time anymore and should not be applied, which law counts then?
exactly
excellent argument that!
you mind Joseph Smith's teachings then, don't you?
no? but why? he is just "updating" things, like congress in your comparison there.
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Originally posted by Creative
Atheists are probably closer to the truth than being brainwashed by a man made bible of story tales
but they are still stuck in a belief system, the belief that there is no god.Comment
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Ok so let me get this straight, Jesus's mother Mary was a Virgin??? What the fuck is that all about??? HELLO are you all really that fucking stupid? That is the most rediculous thing that I have ever heard...
You know how the nuns always run the orphanages, where do you think the kids came from? The nuns and the priests were banging of course, why do you think they have those big baggy robes. Come on now wake the fuck up this is retardedComment
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Originally posted by rip raster
Ok so let me get this straight, Jesus's mother Mary was a Virgin??? What the fuck is that all about???
ass fucking won't rip the hymen.
just gotta be careful when the cum drips out....Comment
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Obey the CowgodComment
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law and morals are created by the strong to protect against the strong.
The strong is the weak, but in mass, they created law/morals to protect against strong(individual)
the same with religion - created as an excuse, a safety net, an excuse to make peopel believe they are not responsible for their own being and keep them in checkComment
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besides, if their is a god
s/he doesnt affect us so religion is irrelevantComment
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diseases are man made... if we didn't screw up we wouldn't have to cross the line on this.Originally posted by bllott
cloning will cure diseases and allow someone you love to survive if something like that happens.
cloning should be done at must be done ASAP
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I have to disagree with you, the Catholic church has a lot of traditions and believe that are forbidden in the Bible...Originally posted by thehornydevil
For someone defending religion so much, you should be aware that "Christian" is a blanket term for all the religions that believe that Jesus Christ was the son of God. If you are Catholic, you're a Christian. You saying "I was raised Catholic but became Christian" makes no sense at all. On the same note, saying Catholics support wars but Christians do not is entirely invalid as well.
God said we should not bow/pray/honor any image carved out of wood (or for that matter any material) yet priests bow down before the cross in church.
God has said in te Bible that EVERY human is holy... yet the Catholic church has "the right" to declare certain ppl holy?
God has said Mary was chosen to deliver birth to Jesus Christ but she has no special place whatsoever. Yet the Catholic church worships Mary and prays to her.
Just a few things that are not allowed and still done by the Catholic church... so I hope you can understand that I consider myself a Christian (follower of Christ) and do not want to have anything to do with the Catholic church.
I do agree most religions like Catholicism, Protestants etc. come down to the same point: Jesus... but the way they travel is not the way I choose.Media Buyer - Sell me your traffic!
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I'm not familiair with Joseph Smith's teachings, I don't know who he is supposed to be... maybe you could use another example?Originally posted by -HF
excellent argument that!
you mind Joseph Smith's teachings then, don't you?
no? but why? he is just "updating" things, like congress in your comparison there.
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Originally posted by TGPslut
I'm not familiair with Joseph Smith's teachings, I don't know who he is supposed to be... maybe you could use another example?
not very open minded, are you? as a christian you do not know anything about the mormon belief system? interesting.
and before you start going on about Smith's teachings not being christian teachings - what makes his book less right than the NT? who put the seal of approval on the NT? and who put them in charge for that?.Comment
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Originally posted by TGPslut
God said ....
God has said in te Bible that ....
God has said Mary was .....
oh? has a recording be released?
more likely you read a book where the author(s) claim a god said.
that's the actual problem with belief systems, you folks take something that hasn't been proven for granted..Comment
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I do know the mormon system but I'm not familiair with the founder or whoever this man may be. I have had elaborate discussions with mormons.Originally posted by -HF
not very open minded, are you? as a christian you do not know anything about the mormon belief system? interesting.
and before you start going on about Smith's teachings not being christian teachings - what makes his book less right than the NT? who put the seal of approval on the NT? and who put them in charge for that?
I consider myself open minded, if you think otherwise that is your right.
As said I'm not familiair with Smith himself... but this qualifies in the same category as Jehova's witnesses, they have re-written/changed the Bible... and as the Bible says this is not permitted so I'm not gonna waste any time on it.Media Buyer - Sell me your traffic!
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I don't think they had audio/video then but a recording would have been greatOriginally posted by -HF
oh? has a recording be released?
more likely you read a book where the author(s) claim a god said.
that's the actual problem with belief systems, you folks take something that hasn't been proven for granted.
I have read a book (the Bible) and I know it is what God has said. If you do not agree that again is your right.
Evolution is something that hasn't been proven either, yet so many ppl believe in it (not saying you do). You will know who was right when the time comes.Media Buyer - Sell me your traffic!
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Originally posted by TGPslut
I do know the mormon system but I'm not familiair with the founder
you KNOW the mormon belief system but not the founder? how funny is that!
Originally posted by TGPslut
I have had elaborate discussions with mormons.
very indepth debates that must have been, since you do not even know their main book and its author
so far you appear like the average religious fanatic, blind to other belief systems and coonvinced your view is the only right one.
and so far we only dealt with your own god.
more bullshit to show you have no clue. Smith wrote an additional book, he did not rew-r-i-t-e anything.Originally posted by TGPslut
As said I'm not familiair with Smith himself... but this qualifies in the same category as Jehova's witnesses, they have re-written/changed the Bible...
Originally posted by TGPslut
and as the Bible says this is not permitted so I'm not gonna waste any time on it.
oh yes, this brings us back to the question you happened to ignore (not surprising, as it shatters your mental crutch)
again: WHO put the seal of approval on the bible and it's content and WHO put these guys in charge?
let's hear it, buddy..Comment
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Originally posted by TGPslut
I have read a book (the Bible) and I know it is what God has said.
bullshit again, how could you know? you BELIEVE, that is all.
as a matter of fact (go and prove it isn't ) i have a pink elephant sitting on my shoulder, it demands you worship it, else you will grow a pig tail on your forehead. go ahead, praise the pink elephant.
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shit you're right... a few seconds ago there popped a pigtail out of the blue on my forehead! AWESOME!Originally posted by -HF
bullshit again, how could you know? you BELIEVE, that is all.
as a matter of fact (go and prove it isn't ) i have a pink elephant sitting on my shoulder, it demands you worship it, else you will grow a pig tail on your forehead. go ahead, praise the pink elephant.
if you think I am narrow minded to not interest myself in other religions you are wrong... I have read about most religions and some in depth, like the Islam... the mormon believe isn't very wide-spread (allthough not obvious) in the country I live in.
on another note "knowing" for me is same a "believing" for you... I know He has done it otherwise I wouldn't believe... but if you prefer otherwise you can name it anyway you want.
additional book or not... it is said the Bible should not be re-written and nothing should be added to it either.Media Buyer - Sell me your traffic!
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Originally posted by TGPslut
if you think I am narrow minded to not interest myself in other religions you are wrong... I have read about most religions and some in depth, like the Islam... the mormon believe isn't very wide-spread (allthough not obvious) in the country I live in.
if you claim you had discussions with Mormons, you should know their most important book and the founder of the belief system. you clearly don't, hence we can safely assume you didn't have that close a contact with Mormons as you claimed.
you are redesigning the english language now or what?Originally posted by TGPslut
on another note "knowing" for me is same a "believing" for you... I know He has done it otherwise I wouldn't believe... but if you prefer otherwise you can name it anyway you want.
to believe means to accept something said or proposed as true, also to think, assume or suppose. there is no knowing in there.
stop trying to wriggle your way out of this one.
Originally posted by TGPslut
additional book or not... it is said the Bible should not be re-written and nothing should be added to it either.
for the third time: WHO put the seal of approval on the bible and it's content and WHO put these guys in charge?
i mean, we all know the answer really. some guys thought up a cunning story, folks like you swallow it cos it gives you a mental crutch. you are like any other addict. to face the facts about your drug makes you go stick your head in the sand. denial is so easy for you. sad in its own way..Comment
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I think the same thing applies to you as to rip raster... we disagree... you say I do not listen I say you do not listen. You have your own opinion and I have my own.Originally posted by -HF
for the third time: WHO put the seal of approval on the bible and it's content and WHO put these guys in charge?
i mean, we all know the answer really. some guys thought up a cunning story, folks like you swallow it cos it gives you a mental crutch. you are like any other addict. to face the facts about your drug makes you go stick your head in the sand. denial is so easy for you. sad in its own way.
Further discussion is useless (as about 99% of all internet discussions). We will never reach any form of agreement.
As said earlier you will know who was right when the time comes... just make sure you're ready for it.
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if you don't think there is one, then yes.. you are.Originally posted by TurboTrucker
Well if there is a God, then I'm not Godless am I.Comment
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Someone raised a point earlier regarding altruism. It does exist and is biologically driven. It exists outside of any religious justification.Comment
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I say let folks believe what they want to believe, shaddap already and get on with your own business.
Live and let live.
Non-believers aren't going to get any new recruits here, and neither will the believers. You'll see that even among different religious factions there is a lot of fingerpointing about who is a *true* Christian and who is not, who will be saved and who is not worthy etc etc. It's pointless to argue this stuff.
People need to find their own belief system (or non-belief system) and just go with it, and be happy about it. I see so many non-believers that are so fucking uptight and miserable when they hear someone say they are a believer.... just as I hear believers get all stupid when someone says they are athiest/agnostic. It's incredible.
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I guess I still haven't been proven wrong. Without religion and without rule of law, atheists will be WISHING there was religion cuz "Might makes right" sucks.Comment
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I'm an atheist and I don't believe that "might makes right".Originally posted by papichulo
I guess I still haven't been proven wrong. Without religion and without rule of law, atheists will be WISHING there was religion cuz "Might makes right" sucks.
I think you'll find that a large proportion of atheists are also humanists.Comment
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he's not religious, he's just trolling, and succeeding by the looks of it. But then again I think any of you here proclaiming to be religious and selling porn are hypocrites and not really worth responding to anyways.Originally posted by TGPslut
dude for a religious person you do not give ppl a lot of credit...
"worthless"?Comment
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dude, just ignore, he can't be stupid enough to believe what he's saying, he's obviously trolling, or very ignorant.Originally posted by Joe Citizen
I'm an atheist and I don't believe that "might makes right".
I think you'll find that a large proportion of atheists are also humanists.Comment
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But HYPOCRISY is what makes the world go around.Originally posted by bhutocracy
he's not religious, he's just trolling, and succeeding by the looks of it. But then again I think any of you here proclaiming to be religious and selling porn are hypocrites and not really worth responding to anyways.
Don't tell me you're a purist.
Must have been hard when your reality cherry got popped.
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religion = brainwashing
it's that simple.
Often times I wonder why
There's love and hate, theres live or die.
When sickness comes I must decide:
When feelings go, theres suicide.
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I vote very ignorant.Originally posted by bhutocracy
dude, just ignore, he can't be stupid enough to believe what he's saying, he's obviously trolling, or very ignorant.Last edited by Joe Citizen; 04-21-2004, 10:05 PM.Comment
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Amen brother.Originally posted by nofx
religion = brainwashing
it's that simple.Comment
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Amazing. But if we read FOUCAULT correctly, so are most other SOCIAL CONSTRUCTIONS. Now what?Originally posted by nofx
religion = brainwashing
it's that simple.Comment
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Religion was the law before law existed. So now that we have the law in Western countries, what do we need religion for? It's just a more primitive and savage version of the law. Let go of it already.Originally posted by papichulo
I guess I still haven't been proven wrong. Without religion and without rule of law, atheists will be WISHING there was religion cuz "Might makes right" sucks.Last edited by CoolE; 04-21-2004, 10:10 PM.Comment
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Don't you think it's time the human race grew out of this way of thinking?Originally posted by papichulo
Amazing. But if we read FOUCAULT correctly, so are most other SOCIAL CONSTRUCTIONS. Now what?Comment
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ugh.. is sig day so soon already? bump up those impressions son, maybe next month you can buy an extra big mac with your trolling efforts.Comment
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