Anyone had any experience dealing with Landlord and Tennant Act Tribunals in Canada?

[jact]

I seem to have a hearing coming up. Any tips/advice?

[directfiesta]

Originally posted by jact
I seem to have a hearing coming up. Any tips/advice?

Which province? If Quebec , yes ( I know the VP of the Regie...)

[jact]

Originally posted by directfiesta


Which province? If Quebec , yes ( I know the VP of the Regie...)

Ontario. I don't forsee any problems, but I want to be prepared for the worst.

[emmanuelle]

I have some Ontario experience with this. What is it that you need to know?

[jact]

Originally posted by emmanuelle
I have some Ontario experience with this. What is it that you need to know?

Our landlord sold the house we reside in without letting us know, has not given us any notice whatsoever and showed up at our house on Saturday and was screaming that we needed to be out by Midnight.

I honestly don't think he has a clue that tennants have rights, nor do I think he knows that I know we have rights, but in case he actually figures out what he needs to do, I want to be prepared.

Do I need a lawyer to go respond to a Tribunal? Can I represent myself? I've spoken briefly with a lawyer versed on this and they said I could represent myself as I've done no wrong, but lawyers don't always tell you what you need to know.

[Ice]

Originally posted by jact
Ontario. I don't forsee any problems, but I want to be prepared for the worst.

My business partner use to be a lawyer... hit me up on icq and I can put you in touch with him

[the Shemp]

Originally posted by jact
Our landlord sold the house we reside in without letting us know, has not given us any notice whatsoever and showed up at our house on Saturday and was screaming that we needed to be out by Midnight.

I honestly don't think he has a clue that tennants have rights, nor do I think he knows that I know we have rights, but in case he actually figures out what he needs to do, I want to be prepared.

Do I need a lawyer to go respond to a Tribunal? Can I represent myself? I've spoken briefly with a lawyer versed on this and they said I could represent myself as I've done no wrong, but lawyers don't always tell you what you need to know.

in BC, the landlord has to give 60 days notice by registered mail i believe. Im sure Ontario has something similar. You shouldnt need a lawyer, its reasonably informal.

[m00d]

that's absurd. he didn't give you ANY notice? he just showed up screaming for you to be out by midnight? sounds kind of fishey to me. That or he's an insane devil or something. Who would do that to people who've never harmed you?

[LadyMischief]

Originally posted by m00d
that's absurd. he didn't give you ANY notice? he just showed up screaming for you to be out by midnight? sounds kind of fishey to me. That or he's an insane devil or something. Who would do that to people who've never harmed you?

We had a lease, but even at the end of a term of lease, he would have had to give us notice that he was going to terminate the lease at the end of term. Without that notice, legally, it reverts to a month-to-month type situation.

[jact]

Originally posted by the Shemp


in BC, the landlord has to give 60 days notice by registered mail i believe. Im sure Ontario has something similar. You shouldnt need a lawyer, its reasonably informal.

The buyer is turning the house into a drop in center for pregnant teens, so it isn't even getting turned into a regular residence. According to the landlord & tennant act, I'm required to get 120 days notice, but because there's no precident for my type of case, the lawyer isn't sure who's supposed to serve me notice.

The buyer's been in my face several times, that's the only way I found out the house was selling, the landlord was completely secretive about it.

He had no problem cashing last month's or this month's rent checks though, which stands against him.

Pure bullshit.

[emmanuelle]

You dont need a lawyer. That is probably the most user friendly section of the government. In fact they were practically sympathetic when I dealt with my situation. From what you described, your lunatic landlord has some 'splaining to do as he's in violation of several laws.

Check your local library for the Self Counsel Press series of books. They will arm you with everything you need to know about how to handle the situation.

[CDSmith]

Originally posted by jact
Our landlord sold the house we reside in without letting us know, has not given us any notice whatsoever and showed up at our house on Saturday and was screaming that we needed to be out by Midnight.

I honestly don't think he has a clue that tennants have rights, nor do I think he knows that I know we have rights, but in case he actually figures out what he needs to do, I want to be prepared.

Do I need a lawyer to go respond to a Tribunal? Can I represent myself? I've spoken briefly with a lawyer versed on this and they said I could represent myself as I've done no wrong, but lawyers don't always tell you what you need to know.

I have some experience with this, as at one time I was the tenant here at my house. I found out my landlord was secretly trying to sell the house, so I got my real estate agent friend to make him an offer without him knowing it was me. He accepted the offer, and I bought the house..... he was a little peeved that I did it that way, but tough shit :D

Anyway, from what I know, it isn't his business at all about who lives in the house. If he's selling, then it is the responsibility of the new owners to deal with you, and no matter what, you have a certain amount of notice coming to you. Your lease agreement should have something in there about due notice in the event of a sale, but if it doesn't there is definitely rules governing this in the landlord and tenant act.

People really just need to be sensible and fair to each other in these situations and there is no need for disputes like this.


Has the house sold? Again, I don't see why your landlord even cares about you living there.... if he's selling the house he should just STFU and sell it and let the new owners deal with you.

I know that if it was me, in the first hearing anyway I would go and represent myself. No reason to haul a lawyer there with you, just go find out what the deal is, then if you need to bring in a hired gun do so.

[CDSmith]

Originally posted by jact
The buyer is turning the house into a drop in center for pregnant teens, so it isn't even getting turned into a regular residence. According to the landlord & tennant act, I'm required to get 120 days notice, but because there's no precident for my type of case, the lawyer isn't sure who's supposed to serve me notice.

The buyer's been in my face several times, that's the only way I found out the house was selling, the landlord was completely secretive about it.

He had no problem cashing last month's or this month's rent checks though, which stands against him.

Pure bullshit.

Yes, I'd say you have a good case for sure. Just be your usual cool, calm, intelligent self Jact, and blow them away in the hearing.

[tbabe]

that happened to me few years ago, you got 60 or 90 days to vacate, you represent yourself at tribunal. But the definate bare minimum is 60 days, and it doesnt matter what he's doing with the house.

[jact]

Originally posted by CDSmith
I have some experience with this, as at one time I was the tenant here at my house. I found out my landlord was secretly trying to sell the house, so I got my real estate agent friend to make him an offer without him knowing it was me. He accepted the offer, and I bought the house..... he was a little peeved that I did it that way, but tough shit :D

Anyway, from what I know, it isn't his business at all about who lives in the house. If he's selling, then it is the responsibility of the new owners to deal with you, and no matter what, you have a certain amount of notice coming to you. Your lease agreement should have something in there about due notice in the event of a sale, but if it doesn't there is definitely rules governing this in the landlord and tenant act.

People really just need to be sensible and fair to each other in these situations and there is no need for disputes like this.


Has the house sold? Again, I don't see why your landlord even cares about you living there.... if he's selling the house he should just STFU and sell it and let the new owners deal with you.

I know that if it was me, in the first hearing anyway I would go and represent myself. No reason to haul a lawyer there with you, just go find out what the deal is, then if you need to bring in a hired gun do so.

The house has indeed sold, the offer was conditional that he could get us out, because I had gotten into a screaming match with the buyer (They kept calling me "The tennant" to my face and I found that rather offensive -- Along with suggesting that myself and my poor family move to a room because we can't afford to move to somewhere else -- Uh? You miss the new van in the driveway? How about the home entertainment system worth more then your car? How about the room stacked with computers? It's about money, right!) So anyhow, they wanted to start in 1 week getting renovations going, but with us here, they couldn't. So, the landlord is apparently trying desperately to get us out (illegally).

It must have made him really mad when our only response to his "Get out by midnight" was "Maybe you should call your lawyer, we have.".

cocksmoker landlords

[the Shemp]

when you do finally move out, stuff about 20 pounds of raw steak in the furnace ducts....

[jact]

Originally posted by the Shemp
when you do finally move out, stuff about 20 pounds of raw steak in the furnace ducts....

Actually, another condition on the offer was that the furnace was in top shape.

We had it inspected, and it failed the inspection, needs a new oil tank and it's an immediate hazard.

The buyer hired some other kid who works there (An 18 year old) to inspect it and he passed it. So the offer went through.

Today we get a letter from the company, the supervisor trumped the inspection of the kid and has deemed it an immediate hazard.

I love it when shit goes wrong and it isn't to me.

[tootie]

Originally posted by the Shemp
when you do finally move out, stuff about 20 pounds of raw steak in the furnace ductshahahahahahahaha

I've heard that it works better if you smash holes in the walls about 6 feet off the ground and drop meat down inside the walls in every roomhaha The only way to fix it is to rip out every wall in the househaha

[AbulletAway]

I know it's a hassle you don't need. And you can't help but worry about it. But, it really sounds like in the long run you have nothing to worry about. And ya, like CD said, just be your normal calm, cool and collected self and you'll be fine And the idea about leaving the meat behind

[Phoenix]

they have to give you 60 days written notice to get you out.

in ontario the tenant has all the rights


i have lots of experience with this, you will not have to move before the agreed up on time

[jact]

Originally posted by Phoenix
they have to give you 60 days written notice to get you out.

in ontario the tenant has all the rights


i have lots of experience with this, you will not have to move before the agreed up on time

I guess the dumb bastard had better give me something in writing soon then huh?

[TurboAngel]

You should get some of these from the pet store and leave them.

[jact]

Originally posted by TurboAngel
You should get some of these from the pet store and leave them.

That my dear, is a fantastic idea!

[Vox]

Originally posted by Phoenix
they have to give you 60 days written notice to get you out.

in ontario the tenant has all the rights


i have lots of experience with this, you will not have to move before the agreed up on time

Not only that, but if the lease is not due, he should pay all your relocation expenses.

If he hasn't sent any registered letters, he can go fuck himself.

[LadyMischief]

Originally posted by Vox


Not only that, but if the lease is not due, he should pay all your relocation expenses.

If he hasn't sent any registered letters, he can go fuck himself.

No, he just came to the door asking why we weren't gone yet. After he said on the phone himself he would give us "lots of time" to move should the occassion arise.