it's funny how I get labeled an "anti-American" because I hate Bush

[StuartD]

He sends tons of other people's kids to die in an invasion to suit his own agenda and makes a dumbass speech trying to justify it with old cliche lines that his father used in speeches from the past.

I voice my opinion and I get responses back like "well, you'd hate it if you needed help and the US didn't help you"

Who asked the US for help in Iraq? Who asked the US to ivade them? oh right, no one. Doing one thing on your own isn't the same as helping someone at their request.

I get hammered as an "anti-american" because I am pissed off that Bush is sending decent, young potential heros and leaders off to some desert to die under the banner of lies and falsehoods... yeah, WMD's... that's a good one.

Am I an anti-American? Hell no... it pains me to no end that Americans are being sent to die for their assclown pesident. They're not dying for their country. They die at Bush's request.

I'm anti-Bush. Not anti-American.

To all the haters who think otherwise...

[Babel]

Don't criticise Israel either, you will be an Anti-Seminte

[Steve]

I dont think you are anti-American
You're just a whiny bitch. We're stuck with this chump until at least the election, and who knows, he might have another Ace or two up his sleeve.

So stop reminding us about him, ok?

[Mr. Mojo Risin]

you should be labeled pro-American for that

[StuartD]

Originally posted by Steve
I dont think you are anti-American
You're just a whiny bitch. We're stuck with this chump until at least the election, and who knows, he might have another Ace or two up his sleeve.

So stop reminding us about him, ok?

Yes, that's right... everyone who has concerns about the current political situation is a whiny bitch.

The ace he had up his sleeve was actually a joker and he bluffed everyone until it came time to show his cards.

Exposing a shaving sponsor is considered good for the industry, but exposing a lying president isn't good for the country?

[BRISK]

Are you American?

[Huggles]

Hey Masked Man, can ya hit me up on icq please?


46723362

[StuartD]

Originally posted by BRISK
Are you American?

Does it matter?

[synergysex]

Originally posted by MaskedMan Exposing a shaving sponsor is considered good for the industry, but exposing a lying president isn't good for the country?

Nope, its not. Americans scream at the top of their lungs that they want to be told the truth and they want politicians who won't bullshit them.

But they dont. They want someone who will tell them that everything is fine, their social security is intact, we are winning the war, the children is learning, jobs are being created and the economy is getting better. Its simply too goddamn depressing for most people to be told what the status of our nation really is. They can't handle it.

The rare politician who dares to tell people what the real story is - will usually be labeled an extremist and accused of being un-American, a trouble maker, etc.

People may say they want one thing when in actuality they really want the opposite.

[Steve]

Originally posted by MaskedMan
Exposing a shaving sponsor is considered good for the industry, but exposing a lying president isn't good for the country?

your ego is out of control

YOU exposed the pres as a bad guy? no shit? You really are something special. I bet you and Al Gore invented the Internet, too.

[StuartD]

Originally posted by synergysex


Nope, its not. Americans scream at the top of their lungs that they want to be told the truth and they want politicians who won't bullshit them.

But they dont. They want someone who will tell them that everything is fine, their social security is intact, we are winning the war, the children is learning, jobs are being created and the economy is getting better. Its simply too goddamn depressing for most people to be told what the status of our nation really is. They can't handle it.

The rare politician who dares to tell people what the real story is - will usually be labeled an extremist and accused of being un-American, a trouble maker, etc.

People may say they want one thing when in actuality they really want the opposite.

This is true... I'd much rather hear that things are fine and dandy. But lying about someone being an "imminent threat" when they're obviously not is kinda taking it extreme.

If they had just said that Saddam was a bad man and should be removed, then people could weigh that as it is... instead of having to fear for their lives from some impending doom from made up WMD's.

[StuartD]

Originally posted by Steve


your ego is out of control

YOU exposed the pres as a bad guy? no shit? You really are something special. I bet you and Al Gore invented the Internet, too.

Please point out where in that statement that I said "I" that your "YOU" implies.

If you can't read, stay out of my threads

[CDSmith]

Originally posted by Steve
your ego is out of control

YOU exposed the pres as a bad guy? no shit? You really are something special. I bet you and Al Gore invented the Internet, too.

Nothing to do with ego. He is the masked man.... hero exposing presidents and idiots everywhere.

He brought you out, didn't he?



He is the masked man.

[Steve]

Originally posted by MaskedMan
If you can't read, stay out of my threads

HELP! HELP! I'M BEING REPRESSED!

[JFK]

Originally posted by CDSmith
Nothing to do with ego. He is the masked man.... hero exposing presidents and idiots everywhere.

He brought you out, didn't he?



He is the masked man.

Masked Man to the Rescue ........Insert William Tell Overture here pls

[Rich]

Originally posted by synergysex


Nope, its not. Americans scream at the top of their lungs that they want to be told the truth and they want politicians who won't bullshit them.

But they dont. They want someone who will tell them that everything is fine, their social security is intact, we are winning the war, the children is learning, jobs are being created and the economy is getting better. Its simply too goddamn depressing for most people to be told what the status of our nation really is. They can't handle it.

The rare politician who dares to tell people what the real story is - will usually be labeled an extremist and accused of being un-American, a trouble maker, etc.

People may say they want one thing when in actuality they really want the opposite.

100% right

[punker barbie]

Masked Man i can always count on you to say it like it is, just that and nothing less!!!!
Rawk on babe!

[StuartD]

Originally posted by punker barbie
Masked Man i can always count on you to say it like it is, just that and nothing less!!!!
Rawk on babe!

Would never do it any other way

[Mr.Fiction]

The same Bush sheep who say you hate America if you hate Bush, spent eight years hating Clinton, so tell them to fuck off.

They hated a president who brought the country peace and prosperity, but they don't want you to hate a president who fucked up the country.

Bush is bad for America.

[Fletch XXX]

[slapass]

Originally posted by MaskedMan


Would never do it any other way

Shut up commie.

















Purely meant as humor.

[Roger]

I remember a few years ago when Clinton was in power. Some people criticized him, yet I never heard anyone label the critics as anti-American. But it's different now, you're dealing with right wingers and religious fundamentalists.

[theking]

Originally posted by MaskedMan


This is true... I'd much rather hear that things are fine and dandy. But lying about someone being an "imminent threat" when they're obviously not is kinda taking it extreme.

If they had just said that Saddam was a bad man and should be removed, then people could weigh that as it is... instead of having to fear for their lives from some impending doom from made up WMD's.

It is you that is lying about "imminent threat"...the President never uttered those words...and I defy you to post a quote where he uttered those words. The President did not make up WMD's...the 14 intel agencies of the US...as well as British...French...German and Isaeli intel agencies all concurred that Iraq possessed WMD's and/or WMD materials and this information was provided to the President.

[theking]

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


Bush is bad for America.

Americans will be the determiners of that come November.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by theking


It is you that is lying about "imminent threat"...the President never uttered those words...and I defy you to post a quote where he uttered those words.

he is referring to Rumsfeld.

http://www.seriouslythough.com/modul...rticle&sid=929

the phrase was "imminent threat"
heres the video:

http://www.moveon.org/censure/caughtonvideo/

[StuartD]

Originally posted by theking


It is you that is lying about "imminent threat"...the President never uttered those words...and I defy you to post a quote where he uttered those words. The President did not make up WMD's...the 14 intel agencies of the US...as well as British...French...German and Isaeli intel agencies all concurred that Iraq possessed WMD's and/or WMD materials and this information was provided to the President.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=255532

Keep trying

[StuartD]

Originally posted by theking


Americans will be the determiners of that come November.

They weren't the ones that picked him as president in the first place, so I don't see what November has to do with it.

Popular vote apparently means nothing, same with the thousands of votes that were thrown out in Florida for no apparenty reason.

pfft... and I'm the anti-American.

[theking]

Originally posted by MaskedMan


http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=255532

Keep trying

Sorry...FYI the Secretary of Defense is not the President of the USA. Try again.

[StuartD]

Originally posted by theking


Sorry...FYI the Secretary of Defense is not the President of the USA. Try again.

Again, please point to where in my post that I said it was specifically the president who said it.

If you can't read, stay out of my threads.

[theking]

Originally posted by MaskedMan


They weren't the ones that picked him as president in the first place, so I don't see what November has to do with it.

Popular vote apparently means nothing, same with the thousands of votes that were thrown out in Florida for no apparenty reason.

pfft... and I'm the anti-American.

The US has an Electoral College that elects the President. That is our system. The Electoral College elected President Bush. Every independent recount that was made by multiple organizations that did a recount in the disputed Counties in Florida showed that President Bush won the vote. There were indepenent organiztions that did a recount of the entire state and they learned that the President won by a larger number of votes than was officially granted to him.

[theking]

Originally posted by MaskedMan


Again, please point to where in my post that I said it was specifically the president who said it.

If you can't read, stay out of my threads.

I can read just fine thank you very much. It is apparently you that cannot read.

"the President never uttered those words...and I defy you to post a quote where he uttered those words."

And you post the Secretary of Defense using the word "imminent".

So if you cannot comprehend what I post don't fucking respond.

[CDSmith]

I love bush.


<img SRC="http://members.shaw.ca/billy1-99/pics/bushtoon1.jpg">

[theking]

Originally posted by CDSmith
I love bush.


<img SRC="http://members.shaw.ca/billy1-99/pics/bushtoon1.jpg">

My kind of guy.

[DavePlays]

No President is 100% good or 100% bad.

No President has ever averaged much better than pleasing half the people while pissing off the other half.

There is such a thing as showing respect for the office and the man in it at the time. No matter which party he is with, but especially during a conflict when our troops are involved.

This does not make you a "good American, nor does it make you a sheep, it just shows you have some respect for your country, your heritage, and have at least some sense of the reality that the people that disagree with you on one topic might agree with you on another. Neither party is 100% right or wrong, and neither are you.

Calling any President a moron, comparing him to hitler, and some of the really low life bashing I have seen here isn't anti-American, it's just foolish, childish, uninformed and is stupid.

[Roger]

"We have seen intelligence over many months that they have chemical and biological weapons, and that they have dispersed them and that they're weaponized and that, in one case at least, the command and control arrangements have been established." ? Bush, Feb. 8, 2003.

"... to disarm Iraq, to free its people and to defend the world from grave danger" - Bush, March 19, 2003.

[iwantchixx]

get used to it. Anyone who doesnt follow what's hip in the US is considered anti american. Patriotism is super contageous and exagerated when it comes to politics.

[StuartD]

Originally posted by theking


I can read just fine thank you very much. It is apparently you that cannot read.

"the President never uttered those words...and I defy you to post a quote where he uttered those words."

And you post the Secretary of Defense using the word "imminent".

So if you cannot comprehend what I post don't fucking respond.

uh huh, let's recap for those playing along at home...

I stated that it's true that people like to be lied to instead of told the gruesome truth.

I also stated that it's a little extreme to go to the extreme of making up even more gruesome "truths" that obviously aren't true.

You then chirped your little "It is you that is lying about "imminent threat"...the President never uttered those words" squacking you do, which is obviously wrong. It is not me that's lying... because i never said that the president uttered those words, did I? You are the one making that part up.

Now then, who is it that has trouble reading??

[piker]

Originally posted by MaskedMan
He sends tons of other people's kids to die in an invasion to suit his own agenda and makes a dumbass speech trying to justify it with old cliche lines that his father used in speeches from the past.

By tons you mean what is it under 700. and by his own agenda you mean protecting you. and by old cliche lines you mean the ones that say Saddam was a threat and you should be glad he isnt in power any more.

On that note, I don't get you people. I don't believe you are pro-saddam meaning you actually favor his rule. The only thing I can gather is you never thought he was a threat. Which all the evidence supports the contrary. Is it the feel oh we are America, Saddam can no way threaten us. I don't get it but would be happy to have an answer from you or anyone else for that matter.

I voice my opinion and I get responses back like "well, you'd hate it if you needed help and the US didn't help you"

Who asked the US for help in Iraq? Who asked the US to ivade them? oh right, no one. Doing one thing on your own isn't the same as helping someone at their request.

We were helping ourselves wiseguy. Do you know how many interest we have in the middle east? Obviously, you dont have a clue because if you did and realize how much of a threat he was to those interest and the possiblity that he was seeking ways to destory us you'd understand that first most we are helping ourselves and the Iraqi people get the benefit from that.

I get hammered as an "anti-american" because I am pissed off that Bush is sending decent, young potential heros and leaders off to some desert to die under the banner of lies and falsehoods... yeah, WMD's... that's a good one.

Am I an anti-American? Hell no... it pains me to no end that Americans are being sent to die for their assclown pesident. They're not dying for their country. They die at Bush's request.

I'm anti-Bush. Not anti-American.

To all the haters who think otherwise...

I don't necessarly think you are Anti-American. I just think you are stupid. You haven't thourghly investigated the situation and deemed Iraq as a threat. Maybe that is Anti-American I don't know its more of a judgement call. Your whole argument is based on biases and miss-information or incomplete information. American's arent being "sent to die for their assclown president" They are being sent to protect American Interest and fight a war on terrorism. And no saying the battle in Iraq is fighting terrorism doesn't mean it is connected to 911. Which, I am not ruling out just saying there isnt enough evidence to support an argument either way. It has only been a year and your so quick to say there are no WMD's what happens when/if inspectors find some? Are you going to eat your propaganda? Your argument seems to point that you don't believe Saddam ever had them. Which everyone that knows something about the situtation knows he did. And knowing that he did should lead to the question is where are they now? One would hope they they are buried in the middle of the desert under an abadoned farm. Not in the wrong people's hands.

[theking]

Originally posted by iwantchixx
get used to it. Anyone who doesnt follow what's hip in the US is considered anti american. Patriotism is super contageous and exagerated when it comes to politics.

Patriotism has to do with love of country and little to do with politics.

[sherie]

Stuy, who the hell cares? You know it, I know it, and a great majority of the US people know that he is a fool. And after subjecting myself to that horror of a speech last night on TV, I feel brilliant, he's like the Rainman.

Hopefully this election is not rigged and the peoples vote actually matters this time around.

I am not Anti-American, infact I would spend more time and more of my money there if it wasn't run by monkey man and a movie star ;)

[Roger]

Come on now we all know that Saddam have WMD's and he's so dangerous that he just didn't use them against us

[piker]

Originally posted by MaskedMan


This is true... I'd much rather hear that things are fine and dandy. But lying about someone being an "imminent threat" when they're obviously not is kinda taking it extreme.

If they had just said that Saddam was a bad man and should be removed, then people could weigh that as it is... instead of having to fear for their lives from some impending doom from made up WMD's.

What is your evidence that he wasn't an imminent threat? Is it that he's such a good guy? Or maybe because he wasn't intersted in making WMD's let alone using them. Oh right, he made them up just like he made up the mass graves that were filled by a ruler using WMD's. Oh wait, thats just your imagination.

[piker]

Originally posted by Roger
Come on now we all know that Saddam have WMD's and he's so dangerous that he just didn't use them against us

I'm guessing this is a bad attempt at sarcasm. But, it is a fact that he had WMD's just no one but the people that worked with them no where they are no. Do yourself a favor before speaking. Do the research. Look through the U.N. reports on Iraq. Specifically, look for what they were supposed to do with there WMD's and look what the U.N. said they had. Then look for any hahahahahahahahas saying what happened to the WMD's, Il'll give you a hint you won't find anything saying what happened to them.

[theking]

Originally posted by MaskedMan


uh huh, let's recap for those playing along at home...

I stated that it's true that people like to be lied to instead of told the gruesome truth.

I also stated that it's a little extreme to go to the extreme of making up even more gruesome "truths" that obviously aren't true.

You then chirped your little "It is you that is lying about "imminent threat"...the President never uttered those words" squacking you do, which is obviously wrong. It is not me that's lying... because i never said that the president uttered those words, did I? You are the one making that part up.

Now then, who is it that has trouble reading??

Yes let us recap...

Originally posted by MaskedMan

....exposing a lying president...

Originally posted by MaskedMan

But lying about someone being an "imminent threat"...

Can anyone connect the dots?

[StuartD]

Originally posted by piker
We were helping ourselves wiseguy. Do you know how many interest we have in the middle east? Obviously, you dont have a clue because if you did and realize how much of a threat he was to those interest and the possiblity that he was seeking ways to destory us you'd understand that first most we are helping ourselves and the Iraqi people get the benefit from that.

Thanks, I love how you argue and still make my point for me at the same time.

piker, you're an imminent threat..... of wasting all of our times with your dumb ass posts.

[Halcyon]

here, here!

anyhahahaha who questions the importance of dissent in our system needs to revisit the writings of the people who built this country.

Following a political leader simply because he is a leader is anti-American.

[StuartD]

Originally posted by theking


Can anyone connect the dots?

So you're taking my post from hours ago and the most recent one, and trying to draw connections between them?

I said in that very post you're refering to "If they had just said that Saddam was a bad man and should be removed, then people could weigh that as it is"

THEY... THEY dumbass!!!

Learn how to read.... keep the connecting the dots games to kids.

[Webby]

theKing:

It is you that is lying about "imminent threat"...the President never uttered those words...and I defy you to post a quote where he uttered those words. The President did not make up WMD's...the 14 intel agencies of the US...as well as British...French...German and Isaeli intel agencies all concurred that Iraq possessed WMD's and/or WMD materials and this information was provided to the President.

Excuse me!! *splutter*

Are we now saying that the failure of the US Admin is because of all the lies the security services, the British, French, German and Intel agencies conveyed to this thing in the Whitehouse?? How quaint. "It was the French who made us invade Iraq".

"Words" as far as Bush is concerned are meaningless - whether he "said" this or that is totally irrelevant within this Admin. It is an Admin based on lies - from all angles. There is NO DOUBT of the attitudes and opinions of this current Admin. This are been clearly stated on many occasions.

They are also a little "smarter" than state outright lies, (tho that has lapsed at times). The technique is "suggest" and repeat the same old cliches in the hope that they will stick. That is not honest - it is lying - especially when there is no foundation.

But, as you have said many times, the US government will continue to do what they need to do (whatever the hell that means! *g*)

If you must - carry on supporting "George-Pass-The-Buck-Dubya"- this person has no honor or credibility. US people deserve a LOAD better than having this ass as a 'leader".

[RedMonkey]

Bush

In my opinion, if you're:

black
latin
asian
middle class
lower class
work for a living
don't live off a trust fund
gay
open-minded
or not a sheep
you shouldn't like Bush

[StuartD]

Originally posted by theking


The US has an Electoral College that elects the President. That is our system. The Electoral College elected President Bush. Every independent recount that was made by multiple organizations that did a recount in the disputed Counties in Florida showed that President Bush won the vote. There were indepenent organiztions that did a recount of the entire state and they learned that the President won by a larger number of votes than was officially granted to him.

By the way, got something for ya.

http://www.ericblumrich.com/gta.html