Sour Krauts! I need some help complying with German regulations. 2nd try 1st eaten. - GoFuckYourself.com

Rick Latona · 04-14-2004, 11:37 AM

Apparently the Germans don?t like me. I appear to be on a list of offenders.

There is a national database over there that adult sites are supposed to connect to in order to verify the age of site visitors.

As I want to be able to have my passport scanned without worrying about the police and I also don?t want to have kids on my sites I need help setting this up.

I can GEO target German traffic myself. I just need the German splash page that connects to the national AVS system and verifies the PIN codes.

Who can help me?

Corleone · 04-14-2004, 11:48 AM

Jugendschutz zeigs. Deutsche helft ihm mal

Slinx · 04-14-2004, 11:50 AM

There is no valid german avs system. You don't live in Germany, you are not a German and you don't host in Germany.
Why do you care?
Regarding the AVS system: NO system is verified by german law.
There must be a face to face identification to view porn. At the moment, there is no working solution on the german market.
Make your sites for the austrian and swiss market, they speak german, too

KRosh · 04-14-2004, 11:52 AM

hey Rick... It's Kourosh

Long time no speak

Talk to the guys at www.coolspot.de

they handle about 80% of AVS in germany

04-14-2004, 11:53 AM

Yet another reason why I refuse to live in that country ever again.

BVF · 04-14-2004, 12:16 PM

stay the fuck out of germany.

Rick Latona · 04-14-2004, 12:31 PM

There must be some way to get authorized in Germany. I care even though I'm not there. If I can spend a little time and money to do it the legitimate way, that's what I'm going to do.

-HF · 04-14-2004, 12:59 PM

there is no need for any AVS when you do go for german speaking visitors. the german laws do only apply to you when you or your servers are located in Germany and Austria and Switzerland only ask you to have a simple Enter/Exit solution.

and please forget about Coolspot, they are the worst. they try to push for a dongle, a hardware device to be purchased and plugged into your PC to make you able to visit adult sites.

Slinx · 04-14-2004, 01:08 PM

Rick, I'll send you a mail tomorrow.

Rick Latona · 04-14-2004, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by -HF
there is no need for any AVS when you do go for german speaking visitors. the german laws do only apply to you when you or your servers are located in Germany and Austria and Switzerland only ask you to have a simple Enter/Exit solution.

and please forget about Coolspot, they are the worst. they try to push for a dongle, a hardware device to be purchased and plugged into your PC to make you able to visit adult sites.

I'd IP target them. I wouldn't use browser language settings.

-HF · 04-14-2004, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona

I'd IP target them. I wouldn't use browser language settings.

still you are not bound by the german laws, so just forget about them.

bluelevelnick · 04-14-2004, 01:14 PM

At the moment none can say what will be in few months(like life is normaly)

At the moment the law says: porn is only allowed if you 'make sure' that none under 18 can watch it.

It is a more complex situation in Germany but that is the point imho: no one can make a 100% AVS.

that is main reason why a lot of people concentrate to other markets now like we do.

SleazyDream · 04-14-2004, 01:15 PM

i got a similar letter from germany - they told me my site was to be reviewed by a pannel for morality that included school teachers and religious people, all groups that would br prejustice to adult material in general.. i took germany off my travel list and decided not to even think about it.

the first letter (registered) i got contained english and german. i got a second letter from them, it had no english. i assume i failed the morality test.

Rick Latona · 04-14-2004, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
i got a similar letter from germany - they told me my site was to be reviewed by a pannel for morality that included school teachers and religious people, all groups that would br prejustice to adult material in general.. i took germany off my travel list and decided not to even think about it.

the first letter (registered) i got contained english and german. i got a second letter from them, it had no english. i assume i failed the morality test.

I do not intend to take Germany off my travel list. That's no way to live a life.

tbabe · 04-14-2004, 01:27 PM

those germans are a funny bunch

Maybe i misread, but it sounds like they dont have a standard solution in place, so why bother?

BigPinPin · 04-14-2004, 04:34 PM

FUCK COOLSPOT & FUCK GERMANY

i am proud that i left this country and its bunch of motherfuckers

Peaches · 04-14-2004, 04:41 PM

Rick, I think the Sexmoney crew is out of Germany? They could probably help you out even if they aren't since they focus on international traffic. If you don't have an email addy for them, email me at peaches at onlinebeach dot com

Rick Latona · 04-14-2004, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tbabe
those germans are a funny bunch

Maybe i misread, but it sounds like they dont have a standard solution in place, so why bother?

Because most of the 90 millioin people there have money, internet connections and a sexual appetite.

Kimmykim · 04-14-2004, 06:02 PM

Seems that the only way you might be 100% in the clear is to deny German traffic from your site...

sandman! · 04-14-2004, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
i got a similar letter from germany - they told me my site was to be reviewed by a pannel for morality that included school teachers and religious people, all groups that would br prejustice to adult material in general.. i took germany off my travel list and decided not to even think about it.

the first letter (registered) i got contained english and german. i got a second letter from them, it had no english. i assume i failed the morality test.

I got one of those in german years ago about i domain that was barly being used.
I did nothing about it many people have got those.
Mine was all in german to no english.

JOKER · 04-14-2004, 06:59 PM

Get in touch with me via icq 98941282 or email me joker @ jokerempire.com .

I'll give you a helping hand ;-)

Take care Rick,

JOKER (Steve)

SubSonic · 04-14-2004, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JOKEREMPIRE
Get in touch with me via icq 98941282 or email me joker @ jokerempire.com .

I'll give you a helping hand ;-)

Take care Rick,

JOKER (Steve)

I can recommend him!

Cheers Joker

thommy · 04-14-2004, 07:33 PM

what a fuck you´re talking about?????

there are some arsholes in that world thinking a wife with an undressed face is even pornographie.

there are some idiots in germany who say about themselfes, that they do not even have a clue from the internet.
those are the ones, writing silly letters, financed by tax money around the world, hoping to find this one idot who will be their example.

GIVE THEM A FLYING FUCK

serious webmasters even in germany or in germanspeaking countries just laughing about this stupid don quichottes who wants to rule the world one more time.

europe is getting back to the time when the world was flat.

if you don´t belive heres a link for those who understand german:

http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/46507

for those who doesn´t understand:

in italy its forbidden from now on to teach children in school about the therory of darwin. they get serously teached the fairytale of adam an eve BY LAW.
maybe in some years people will be pressed to go back on the trees...

what these wankers are doing is just another joke of the human history - just ignore them as everybody with some brain left does.

greeeez

thommy

WiredGuy · 04-14-2004, 07:38 PM

Was this in regards to CJ or one (or more) of the adult sites within CJBucks?

WG

Rick Latona · 04-14-2004, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
Was this in regards to CJ or one (or more) of the adult sites within CJBucks?

WG

Actually, it was steakandcheese.com one of my CJ'esqe free sites.

I don't see why everyone is saying who cares. It seems to me that if you can comply you should. That's just a better way of going through life. IMHO

Tobias · 04-15-2004, 02:33 AM

Hi Rick,

talk to us: http://www.ueber18.de
We have the biggest free AVS ...

@KRosh
Coolspot? 80%?
*LOL* ... Das glaubst du doch selber nicht!

@all

Sorry ... but germany sucks!

JOKER · 04-15-2004, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tobias

@KRosh
Coolspot? 80%?
*LOL* ... Das glaubst du doch selber nicht!

How about keeping it English?

Quote:

Originally posted by Tobias

@all

Sorry ... but germany sucks!

Why bother to run a german AVS then?

Lookin forward to your answer.

JOKER

Gemini · 04-15-2004, 05:07 AM

You're doing the right thing Rick. Ignore the naysayers. They are the first to cry when served or the cuffs go on.

fatal attraction · 04-15-2004, 05:13 AM

JOKEREMPIRE....
Why bother to run a german AVS then?

I don't think that's Rick's point! I THINK his point is is why discount anywhere! or any traffic....but, not sure!

JOKER · 04-15-2004, 05:35 AM

I meant Tobias...

I think it's a good idea that Rick cares.

He is a legit businessman and wants to be legit to foreign laws aswell,thats nothing but positive in my eyes.

Take care,
JOKER

04-14-2004, 11:37 AM	#1
Rick Latona The Best Ideas Start Here Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,037	Sour Krauts! I need some help complying with German regulations. 2nd try 1st eaten. Apparently the Germans don?t like me. I appear to be on a list of offenders. There is a national database over there that adult sites are supposed to connect to in order to verify the age of site visitors. As I want to be able to have my passport scanned without worrying about the police and I also don?t want to have kids on my sites I need help setting this up. I can GEO target German traffic myself. I just need the German splash page that connects to the national AVS system and verifies the PIN codes. Who can help me? __________________ Regards, Rick Latona http://latonas.com Latona's - We Sell Money Making Web Properties Note to buyers of websites and traffic: please check our inventory at http://latonas.com/websites-for-sale. If you would like to make an offer on something, just let me know.

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04-14-2004, 12:31 PM	#7
Rick Latona The Best Ideas Start Here Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,037	There must be some way to get authorized in Germany. I care even though I'm not there. If I can spend a little time and money to do it the legitimate way, that's what I'm going to do. __________________ Regards, Rick Latona http://latonas.com Latona's - We Sell Money Making Web Properties Note to buyers of websites and traffic: please check our inventory at http://latonas.com/websites-for-sale. If you would like to make an offer on something, just let me know.

04-14-2004, 12:59 PM	#8
-HF Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: EU Posts: 174	there is no need for any AVS when you do go for german speaking visitors. the german laws do only apply to you when you or your servers are located in Germany and Austria and Switzerland only ask you to have a simple Enter/Exit solution. and please forget about Coolspot, they are the worst. they try to push for a dongle, a hardware device to be purchased and plugged into your PC to make you able to visit adult sites. __________________ .

04-14-2004, 01:14 PM	#12
bluelevelnick Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germany / Cologne Posts: 98	At the moment none can say what will be in few months(like life is normaly) At the moment the law says: porn is only allowed if you 'make sure' that none under 18 can watch it. It is a more complex situation in Germany but that is the point imho: no one can make a 100% AVS. that is main reason why a lot of people concentrate to other markets now like we do. __________________ ICQ # 316936927

04-14-2004, 11:48 AM	#2
Corleone C.R.E.A.M Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,262	Jugendschutz zeigs. Deutsche helft ihm mal

04-14-2004, 11:50 AM	#3
Slinx Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 823	There is no valid german avs system. You don't live in Germany, you are not a German and you don't host in Germany. Why do you care? Regarding the AVS system: NO system is verified by german law. There must be a face to face identification to view porn. At the moment, there is no working solution on the german market. Make your sites for the austrian and swiss market, they speak german, too

04-14-2004, 11:52 AM	#4
KRosh So Fucking Outlawed Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 5,114	hey Rick... It's Kourosh Long time no speak Talk to the guys at www.coolspot.de they handle about 80% of AVS in germany

04-14-2004, 11:53 AM	#5
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	Yet another reason why I refuse to live in that country ever again.

04-14-2004, 01:08 PM	#9
Slinx Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 823	Rick, I'll send you a mail tomorrow.

04-14-2004, 01:15 PM	#13
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	i got a similar letter from germany - they told me my site was to be reviewed by a pannel for morality that included school teachers and religious people, all groups that would br prejustice to adult material in general.. i took germany off my travel list and decided not to even think about it. the first letter (registered) i got contained english and german. i got a second letter from them, it had no english. i assume i failed the morality test. __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

04-14-2004, 01:27 PM	#15
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04-14-2004, 04:34 PM	#16
BigPinPin Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Spain Posts: 894	FUCK COOLSPOT & FUCK GERMANY i am proud that i left this country and its bunch of motherfuckers

04-14-2004, 04:41 PM	#17
Peaches Old broad Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Away Posts: 13,933	Rick, I think the Sexmoney crew is out of Germany? They could probably help you out even if they aren't since they focus on international traffic. If you don't have an email addy for them, email me at peaches at onlinebeach dot com

04-14-2004, 06:02 PM	#19
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Seems that the only way you might be 100% in the clear is to deny German traffic from your site...

04-14-2004, 06:59 PM	#21
JOKER Facit Omnia Voluntas Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Offshore Posts: 2,105	Get in touch with me via icq 98941282 or email me joker @ jokerempire.com . I'll give you a helping hand ;-) Take care Rick, JOKER (Steve) __________________ Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing Skype: jokerempire \| Silent Circle: joker

04-14-2004, 07:33 PM	#23
thommy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Switzerland / Germany / Thailand Posts: 5,469	what a fuck you´re talking about????? there are some arsholes in that world thinking a wife with an undressed face is even pornographie. there are some idiots in germany who say about themselfes, that they do not even have a clue from the internet. those are the ones, writing silly letters, financed by tax money around the world, hoping to find this one idot who will be their example. GIVE THEM A FLYING FUCK serious webmasters even in germany or in germanspeaking countries just laughing about this stupid don quichottes who wants to rule the world one more time. europe is getting back to the time when the world was flat. if you don´t belive heres a link for those who understand german: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/46507 for those who doesn´t understand: in italy its forbidden from now on to teach children in school about the therory of darwin. they get serously teached the fairytale of adam an eve BY LAW. maybe in some years people will be pressed to go back on the trees... what these wankers are doing is just another joke of the human history - just ignore them as everybody with some brain left does. greeeez thommy

04-14-2004, 07:38 PM	#24
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04-15-2004, 02:33 AM	#26
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04-15-2004, 05:35 AM	#30
JOKER Facit Omnia Voluntas Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Offshore Posts: 2,105	I meant Tobias... I think it's a good idea that Rick cares. He is a legit businessman and wants to be legit to foreign laws aswell,thats nothing but positive in my eyes. Take care, JOKER __________________ Facilitation - BizDev - Traffic - Consulting - Marketing Skype: jokerempire \| Silent Circle: joker