40 Hostages Held in Iraq - Another Vietnam/Iran? - GoFuckYourself.com

m00d · 04-13-2004, 12:24 PM

April 13, 2004 | BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) -- Around 40 foreign hostages from 12 countries are currently being held by insurgents in Iraq, and the FBI is involved investigations into the abductions, a coalition spokesman said.

"The FBI is working with coalition forces and Iraqi security forces to seek out the hostage takers and the hostages," Dan Senor, spokesman for U.S. administrator L. Paul Bremer, told reporters. "We have a number of other law enforcement agencies from the international community who are working on this."

Senor said the U.S.-led administration would not negotiate with "terrorists or kidnappers" to gain the hostages' release.

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Man, I'd HATE to be those people right now. I saw tht one Mississippi man on tv the other day and he looked like he'd been to hell and back. He's nothing but a civilian truck driver. I've got to give the insurgents their props for taking this route. Most of the journalists are either gone from Iraq now or living behind barricades. Now they're taking aim at civilian contractors. If no one will come to work over there, that helps get rid of the Americans that much more quickly.

DR_PHIL · 04-13-2004, 12:35 PM

it sucks that these people trying to build iraq are not getting the right security

skinnay · 04-13-2004, 12:44 PM

i dont get why so many contractors are willing to go to iraq in the first place..

Fletch XXX · 04-13-2004, 12:46 PM

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Originally posted by skinnay
i dont get why so many contractors are willing to go to iraq in the first place..

becaue they can bill you unheard amounts for whatever they want.

and money talks.

Haliburton is billing us millions in gas alone.

War is cheap!

m00d · 04-13-2004, 12:46 PM

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Originally posted by skinnay
i dont get why so many contractors are willing to go to iraq in the first place..

I've wondered that myself. My guess is they are uneducated and think they are going off to America II. They can't possibly calculate the actual danger versus pay in a logical way or they wouldn't go.

LA Mike · 04-13-2004, 12:48 PM

The whole problem is they are sooo fucking uneducated that they dont get anything.. Fucking nukum all already

Roger · 04-13-2004, 12:48 PM

A 60% unemployment rate in Baghdad and they couldn't find a truck driver in Iraq? They had to bring in all those foreign people and pay them 100k/year? Doesn't make much sense to me. If those jobs where given to Iraqis in the first place the situation would be much better and less people would be willing to fight.

spentrent · 04-13-2004, 12:49 PM

Worse than Vietnam... no one is on the USA's team.

tbabe · 04-13-2004, 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by m00d
.Most of the journalists are either gone from Iraq now or living behind barricades. Now they're taking aim at civilian contractors. If no one will come to work over there, that helps get rid of the Americans that much more quickly.

Well, maybe with the journalists gone, the military can finally put on their "occupying army" face and take care of business over there.

m00d · 04-13-2004, 12:51 PM

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Originally posted by tbabe

Well, maybe with the journalists gone, the military can finally put on their "occupying army" face and take care of business over there.

i don't know what you're smoking, but we're turning the country over to the Iraqis on June 30th according to your man Bush.

Roger · 04-13-2004, 12:52 PM

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Originally posted by m00d
I've wondered that myself. My guess is they are uneducated and think they are going off to America II. They can't possibly calculate the actual danger versus pay in a logical way or they wouldn't go.

We've heard the story about that Mississipi guy. He had a farm but experienced lots of financial problems and his wife was hospitalised. So he took a risk by going to Iraq because the pay is pretty damn good.

m00d · 04-13-2004, 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by Roger
A 60% unemployment rate in Baghdad and they couldn't find a truck driver in Iraq? They had to bring in all those foreign people and pay them 100k/year? Doesn't make much sense to me. If those jobs where given to Iraqis in the first place the situation would be much better and less people would be willing to fight.

you are right. the excess is absolutely disgusting to me ( an american) ..I can only imagine how the Iraqis feel about it.

cluck · 04-13-2004, 12:54 PM

The Iraqi civil war starts June 30th. I hope to god we leave those bastards out there to die alone.

Noone in the US seems to understand the conflict between the Sunnis and the Shias. In the cities they get along but the US is leaving the country conservative people in power and they're just going to end up killing each other again.

The only other way the 2 sects of extremists will get along is if they group together and start killing infidels instead of each other.

FUCKED. It was better for Iraqis to invade but here in the US we'd be safer with Saddam in power.

m00d · 04-13-2004, 12:57 PM

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Originally posted by cluck
The Iraqi civil war starts June 30th. I hope to god we leave those bastards out there to die alone.

Noone in the US seems to understand the conflict between the Sunnis and the Shias. In the cities they get along but the US is leaving the country conservative people in power and they're just going to end up killing each other again.

The only other way the 2 sects of extremists will get along is if they group together and start killing infidels instead of each other.

FUCKED. It was better for Iraqis to invade but here in the US we'd be safer with Saddam in power.

one thing you can't argue with, there was peace and order under saddam. I can't understand if the police and civil systems were working fine under the rule of Saddam, why can't it work just as well with our added military presence and aid? I honestly don't know why we can't do atleast as well as Saddam with more resources than saddam ever dreamed of.

cluck · 04-13-2004, 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by m00d
one thing you can't argue with, there was peace and order under saddam. I can't understand if the police and civil systems were working fine under the rule of Saddam, why can't it work just as well with our added military presence and aid? I honestly don't know why we can't do atleast as well as Saddam with more resources.

Saddam was exterminating all the shia muslims so there was no time for civil war to break out among the people. If you were a shiite you went to jail, and when the jail got full you all got killed to make room for more shiites.

Now they've actually got a chance to fight with each other.

Rich · 04-13-2004, 01:04 PM

This could get way worse than Vietnam if you think about it, there are a lot of crazy fucking Muslims who hate America in that area. They're all going to be flocking to Iraq now that it looks like America isn't dominating. If these Neocons are going to insist on invading countries, it would be nice if they had at least some sort of clue how to actually fight a war. Amazing that a cheerleader and a bunch of oil execs aren't the best people to put in charge of the world's most powerful military.

Rich · 04-13-2004, 01:11 PM

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Originally posted by m00d
i don't know what you're smoking, but we're turning the country over to the Iraqis on June 30th according to your man Bush.

In name only, there are going to be US troops in Iraq for 10+ years.

m00d · 04-13-2004, 01:14 PM

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Originally posted by Rich

In name only, there are going to be US troops in Iraq for 10+ years.

Of course you are right, I was just takign the opportunity to rib a repuglican. They are so full of big talk about kicking ass captain american style..then you ask them what they think about Bush wanting to turn it over in June they go totally blank.

Roger · 04-13-2004, 01:15 PM

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Originally posted by Rich
In name only, there are going to be US troops in Iraq for 10+ years.

And on top of that they still don't know who they're going to turn over the country to.

nathan_f · 04-13-2004, 01:17 PM

$1000 dollars a day for the blackwater 'mercenaries'. If someone offered me that job, I'd take it in a heartbeat.

directfiesta · 04-13-2004, 01:21 PM

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Originally posted by skinnay
i dont get why so many contractors are willing to go to iraq in the first place..

For the women....

dantheman · 04-13-2004, 01:23 PM

did I just read someone say there was peace and order under saddam?!? ummmmm, guess the extermination of thousands of his own people is peaceful and secure..........lol, that's nutz

oh, don't forget about his sons killing and torture of hundreds of athletes..................amazing what some folks think

zzgundamnzz · 04-13-2004, 01:27 PM

Might be that Sadam was a necessary evil in those parts... let them kill each other instead of killing us.

Roger · 04-13-2004, 01:29 PM

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Originally posted by nathan_f
$1000 dollars a day for the blackwater 'mercenaries'. If someone offered me that job, I'd take it in a heartbeat.

I heard that some people in the US forces are pissed off about this. Outsourcing military jobs to some mercenaries is stupid and surely not as effective. Those mercenaries make more in a month than a soldier does in a whole year. Who came up with this idea? And how exactly does the US government save more money by outsourcing military tasks?

Mr. Marks · 04-13-2004, 08:07 PM

....many innocent people are at risk because
of the damn war.

04-13-2004, 12:24 PM	#1
m00d So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 3,129	40 Hostages Held in Iraq - Another Vietnam/Iran? April 13, 2004 \| BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) -- Around 40 foreign hostages from 12 countries are currently being held by insurgents in Iraq, and the FBI is involved investigations into the abductions, a coalition spokesman said. "The FBI is working with coalition forces and Iraqi security forces to seek out the hostage takers and the hostages," Dan Senor, spokesman for U.S. administrator L. Paul Bremer, told reporters. "We have a number of other law enforcement agencies from the international community who are working on this." Senor said the U.S.-led administration would not negotiate with "terrorists or kidnappers" to gain the hostages' release. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Man, I'd HATE to be those people right now. I saw tht one Mississippi man on tv the other day and he looked like he'd been to hell and back. He's nothing but a civilian truck driver. I've got to give the insurgents their props for taking this route. Most of the journalists are either gone from Iraq now or living behind barricades. Now they're taking aim at civilian contractors. If no one will come to work over there, that helps get rid of the Americans that much more quickly.

04-13-2004, 12:54 PM	#13
cluck Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,248	The Iraqi civil war starts June 30th. I hope to god we leave those bastards out there to die alone. Noone in the US seems to understand the conflict between the Sunnis and the Shias. In the cities they get along but the US is leaving the country conservative people in power and they're just going to end up killing each other again. The only other way the 2 sects of extremists will get along is if they group together and start killing infidels instead of each other. FUCKED. It was better for Iraqis to invade but here in the US we'd be safer with Saddam in power. __________________ icq 279990726 www.mcdonalds.com <- great money making opportunity

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dantheman OG Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,308	did I just read someone say there was peace and order under saddam?!? ummmmm, guess the extermination of thousands of his own people is peaceful and secure..........lol, that's nutz oh, don't forget about his sons killing and torture of hundreds of athletes..................amazing what some folks think __________________ M3server.com VPS>Get your 2nd month free Ded>$100 off your 2nd month since 1996 icq-25135623 dannyh at~m3server DOT com

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zzgundamnzz Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,102	Might be that Sadam was a necessary evil in those parts... let them kill each other instead of killing us. __________________

04-13-2004, 12:35 PM	#2
DR_PHIL Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Never visits the same thread twice Posts: 4,099	it sucks that these people trying to build iraq are not getting the right security

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skinnay Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NEW YORK CITY Posts: 2,274	i dont get why so many contractors are willing to go to iraq in the first place..

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LA Mike Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 3,056	The whole problem is they are sooo fucking uneducated that they dont get anything.. Fucking nukum all already

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Roger Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: MetroCity Posts: 3,181	A 60% unemployment rate in Baghdad and they couldn't find a truck driver in Iraq? They had to bring in all those foreign people and pay them 100k/year? Doesn't make much sense to me. If those jobs where given to Iraqis in the first place the situation would be much better and less people would be willing to fight.

04-13-2004, 12:49 PM	#8
spentrent Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LA Posts: 876	Worse than Vietnam... no one is on the USA's team.

04-13-2004, 01:04 PM	#16
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	This could get way worse than Vietnam if you think about it, there are a lot of crazy fucking Muslims who hate America in that area. They're all going to be flocking to Iraq now that it looks like America isn't dominating. If these Neocons are going to insist on invading countries, it would be nice if they had at least some sort of clue how to actually fight a war. Amazing that a cheerleader and a bunch of oil execs aren't the best people to put in charge of the world's most powerful military.

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nathan_f Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Think of me as Chomsky with dick jokes. Posts: 3,983	$1000 dollars a day for the blackwater 'mercenaries'. If someone offered me that job, I'd take it in a heartbeat.

04-13-2004, 08:07 PM	#25
Mr. Marks Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wherever I want Posts: 7,517	....many innocent people are at risk because of the damn war.