The Word About HIV: AVN Lacks Ethics - GoFuckYourself.com

jedmaster2112 · 04-13-2004, 03:02 PM

Fuck man, am I wrong here, or is AVN starting an HIV lynch mob? This strikes me as being really unethical and unfair to the people who aren't yet aware that they have been exposed.

Whatever happened to a little medical privacy?

Jeez, I know we're all in the porn industry, but this could be damning for those performers listed in the article.

http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary...ntent_ID=80458

JFK · 04-13-2004, 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by jedmaster2112
Fuck man, am I wrong here, or is AVN starting an HIV lynch mob? This strikes me as being really unethical and unfair to the people who aren't yet aware that they have been exposed.

Whatever happened to a little medical privacy?

Jeez, I know we're all in the porn industry, but this could be damning for those performers listed in the article.

http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary...ntent_ID=80458

The other side of the coin is, maybee they would never know if it wasnt for AVN

and they would carry on infecting others meanwhile.......think about that !

Doctor Dre · 04-13-2004, 03:06 PM

WRONG . This is a thing that you can't hide in adult industry . He signed papers with AIM and if he catch aids, he knew it would have been public.

It's your profetional life, not your private life . If you get hurt during a job as a construction worker or something ppl don'T try to hide it .

XxShiznaughtxX · 04-13-2004, 03:07 PM

Hehe the only morality these guys have is when it comes to AIDS

XBizSuzette · 04-13-2004, 03:09 PM

OMG! How stupid! Have we just regressed to the Salem Witch Trials?! They name names even! How can that be legal?

stevecore · 04-13-2004, 03:10 PM

i think that chick they can't find might be this patricia that dugmor was out with last nite...she's apparently linked to judy starr.

JFK · 04-13-2004, 03:18 PM

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Originally posted by stevecore
i think that chick they can't find might be this patricia that dugmor was out with last nite...she's apparently linked to judy starr.

Nice Looking Collection

stevecore · 04-13-2004, 03:20 PM

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Originally posted by JFK

Nice Looking Collection

oh yeah, very nice! i dunno if it's her or not, just speculating since it the info seems to point in their direction. hope they can find everyone and let them know whats going on.

Fletch XXX · 04-13-2004, 03:21 PM

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Originally posted by stevecore

oh yeah, very nice! i dunno if it's her or not, just speculating since it the info seems to point in their direction. hope they can find everyone and let them know whats going on.

what is going on?

any links?

missing girls?

huh?

fill me in

Babel · 04-13-2004, 03:21 PM

There is no turning the clock around with HIV

Joesho · 04-13-2004, 03:23 PM

I agree with the decision to make the names public.... it is the right thing to do when one weighs out the alternatives..

JFK · 04-13-2004, 03:23 PM

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Originally posted by stevecore

oh yeah, very nice! i dunno if it's her or not, just speculating since it the info seems to point in their direction. hope they can find everyone and let them know whats going on.

someone must have Dugmors phone # in here

stevecore · 04-13-2004, 03:24 PM

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Originally posted by JFK

someone must have Dugmors phone # in here

he's in LA, saw him a few nites ago... i'll pass it along to him

jedmaster2112 · 04-13-2004, 03:27 PM

Look, I know that it's important to find the missing girls, but I'm talking about ethics here.

Is it fair to these people to expose them, humiliate them, and put them in a position where they are HIV positive until proven otherwise?

Mutt · 04-13-2004, 03:30 PM

Adult talent signs a waiver when they go for testing at AIM. They waive their right to privacy in the event of an HIV outbreak, this information has to be made public. Would you want another Marc Wallice situation? Everyhahahaha has to know.

this is brutal, Jessica Dee, who is very close friends with Joe from AMA Content, this Patricia girl from Montreal, i think another girl from Canada

pray for all these people this is a false positive or these girls test negative

genomega · 04-13-2004, 03:32 PM

I'm sure they are doing what their lawyers advise them to do.

cherrylula · 04-13-2004, 03:32 PM

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Originally posted by jedmaster2112
Look, I know that it's important to find the missing girls, but I'm talking about ethics here.

Is it fair to these people to expose them, humiliate them, and put them in a position where they are HIV positive until proven otherwise?

Sorry but people's lives at stake here, the info would get out regardless of who publishes it.

And I think maybe they're used to a little exposure and humiliation being porn stars and all

Fletch XXX · 04-13-2004, 03:32 PM

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Originally posted by Mutt
Adult talent signs a waiver when they go for testing at AIM. They waive their right to privacy in the event of an HIV outbreak, this information has to be made public. Would you want another Marc Wallice situation? Everyhahahaha has to know.

this is brutal, Jessica Dee, who is very close friends with Joe from AMA Content, this Patricia girl from Montreal, i think another girl from Canada

pray for all these people this is a false positive or these girls test negative

Hey Mutt, so who is responsible in these situations.

Maybe he got it from one of those girls.

Where did HE get it?

Everyone wants to point to him, what if he got it from one of the broads that they list? or another girl on set?

Possible no?

Doctor Dre · 04-13-2004, 03:32 PM

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Originally posted by stevecore
i think that chick they can't find might be this patricia that dugmor was out with last nite...she's apparently linked to judy starr.

I dunno but dugmor got too many girls to take care off for a single man

JFK · 04-13-2004, 03:38 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX

Hey Mutt, so who is responsible in these situations.

Maybe he got it from one of those girls.

Where did HE get it?

Everyone wants to point to him, what if he got it from one of the broads that they list? or another girl on set?

Possible no?

Yes your scenario is quite possible, it would have come from somewhere. Now everyone is sitting up and taking notice. At this point its not imptorant what came first the chicken or the egg! Lets try and not pass it on.

Mutt · 04-13-2004, 03:38 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX

Hey Mutt, so who is responsible in these situations.

Maybe he got it from one of those girls.

Where did HE get it?

Everyone wants to point to him, what if he got it from one of the broads that they list? or another girl on set?

Possible no?

i think with more testing, that viral load test they are waiting for, they can pinpoint more closely when exactly he came into contact with the HIV virus. Then it's up to him to figure out who he was with professionally and non-professionally.

And yeah, he could have gotten it from one of those girls, he just tested positive first. But AIM probably has those girls on record and i am speculating that they all have later clean tests than Darren James did.

chAos · 04-13-2004, 03:46 PM

Man again here it is that you fucks sit here and not know one thing about the industry that you promote and make money off of .. AIM is a service to all of us in the adult industry and has been for years they have saved thousands of lives over the years and are very much appreciated by the "real" porn community in the valley ...

you sit there and talk about fucking bad press and shit and we are talking about containing something deadly ... Lawyers?? what the fuck is that .. you need to go back to your fucking dorm room and get a clue ... 12 years in this industry and when this happened to brooke ashley many years back AIM was the one that kept it from spreading to the rest of the adult community ...

can you please wake up go back to coding and let the real pornographers do their job ...

Mr.Fiction · 04-13-2004, 03:47 PM

If they signed a release when they had the test, there is no question that AVN is doing the right thing.

Without a third party being authorized to tell the industry about these people, how can you be sure all of them would stop working?

Now it's out in the open and it can be dealt with by everyone involved.

[dfo] · 04-13-2004, 03:48 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX

Hey Mutt, so who is responsible in these situations.

Maybe he got it from one of those girls.

Where did HE get it?

Everyone wants to point to him, what if he got it from one of the broads that they list? or another girl on set?

Possible no?

this is a quote from another avn article:
"According to Dr. Sharon Mitchell, executive director of AIM, in between his last two test dates, "this male talent went to Brazil and worked non-condom. We have spoken with T.T. Boy, whose production company James worked for."

http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary...ntent_ID=80454

justsexxx · 04-13-2004, 03:55 PM

Really scary story...Maybe it's me. But without protection you never can be 100% sure...

Andre

[dfo] · 04-13-2004, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX

Hey Mutt, so who is responsible in these situations.

Maybe he got it from one of those girls.

Where did HE get it?

Everyone wants to point to him, what if he got it from one of the broads that they list? or another girl on set?

Possible no?

this is a quote from another avn article:
"According to Dr. Sharon Mitchell, executive director of AIM, in between his last two test dates, "this male talent went to Brazil and worked non-condom. We have spoken with T.T. Boy, whose production company James worked for."

http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary...ntent_ID=80454

Vic Lagina · 04-13-2004, 04:13 PM

Man, this shit is scary.

This is why I prefer to shoot couples...

This is why I would never be a stunt cock...

This is why I am glad I am in a monogamous relationship...

Here's to hoping that it's a false positive and that nohahahaha is infected...

pornstar2pac · 04-13-2004, 04:25 PM

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Originally posted by jedmaster2112
Look, I know that it's important to find the missing girls, but I'm talking about ethics here.

Is it fair to these people to expose them, humiliate them, and put them in a position where they are HIV positive until proven otherwise?

dude, even if they were completly wrong and named the wrong people, just by mentioning it could save 1 life. this doesn't "happen" everyday in the industry. I would have never known if they didn't come out with names.

remember, 1 life saved is gold. gold. 1 life is all I ask

Fletch XXX · 04-13-2004, 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by [dfo]

this is a quote from another avn article:
"According to Dr. Sharon Mitchell, executive director of AIM, in between his last two test dates, "this male talent went to Brazil and worked non-condom. We have spoken with T.T. Boy, whose production company James worked for."

http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary...ntent_ID=80454

Sad thing is, wasnt TTBoy atround when marc Wallice was pulling his crap?

Youd think some of these Veteran stars would learn somethings over the years.

Aim can release whatever info they want, rightfully so.

The Woodland Hills stop is a first pit for pornstars coming in to LA

hahah

drive by it

http://www.aim-med.org/

Paul Waters · 04-13-2004, 05:11 PM

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Originally posted by genomega
I'm sure they are doing what their lawyers advise them to do.

Lawyers??????

WTF?????

They should be seeing doctors, man.

Mr. Marks · 04-13-2004, 05:46 PM

Persons with HIV should be responsible enough
to carry condoms around, just in case.

jimmyf · 04-13-2004, 05:52 PM

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Originally posted by jedmaster2112
Look, I know that it's important to find the missing girls, but I'm talking about ethics here.

Is it fair to these people to expose them, humiliate them, and put them in a position where they are HIV positive until proven otherwise?

yes yes yes

Kimmykim · 04-13-2004, 05:57 PM

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Originally posted by papichulo
Persons with HIV should be responsible enough
to carry condoms around, just in case.

I'm not sure I understand what you are saying.

jimmyf · 04-13-2004, 06:01 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim

I'm not sure I understand what you are saying.

I think he's saying, it's ok 2 have sex if you use a condom..

some people are dumber than a pile of dam rocks.

how would you like it, find out later someone had sex with you, but used a condom, and didn't tell you they had aids.

Kimmykim · 04-13-2004, 06:09 PM

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Originally posted by jimmyf

I think he's saying, it's ok 2 have sex if you use a condom..

some people are dumber than a pile of dam rocks.

how would you like it, find out later someone had sex with you, but used a condom, and didn't tell you they had aids.

I was really hoping that wasn't what he was saying.

jimmyf · 04-13-2004, 06:11 PM

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Originally posted by Kimmykim

I was really hoping that wasn't what he was saying.

just think some of these young people will be running our country someday.

Axeman · 04-13-2004, 06:13 PM

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Originally posted by papichulo
Persons with HIV should be responsible enough
to carry condoms around, just in case.

Gotta agree with that

jimmyf · 04-13-2004, 06:15 PM

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Originally posted by Axeman

Gotta agree with that

another one

Kimmykim · 04-13-2004, 06:19 PM

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Originally posted by jimmyf

another one

Well I guess I'm going to get a beer and hope my eyes stop bleeding from reading this...

Jimmy Lifestyles · 04-13-2004, 07:38 PM

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Originally posted by chaos-CME
Man again here it is that you fucks sit here and not know one thing about the industry that you promote and make money off of .. AIM is a service to all of us in the adult industry and has been for years they have saved thousands of lives over the years and are very much appreciated by the "real" porn community in the valley ...

you sit there and talk about fucking bad press and shit and we are talking about containing something deadly ... Lawyers?? what the fuck is that .. you need to go back to your fucking dorm room and get a clue ... 12 years in this industry and when this happened to brooke ashley many years back AIM was the one that kept it from spreading to the rest of the adult community ...

can you please wake up go back to coding and let the real pornographers do their job ...

AMEN!

pornstar2pac · 04-13-2004, 07:39 PM

gangbang girl #40 out yet?

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jedmaster2112 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 16	The Word About HIV: AVN Lacks Ethics Fuck man, am I wrong here, or is AVN starting an HIV lynch mob? This strikes me as being really unethical and unfair to the people who aren't yet aware that they have been exposed. Whatever happened to a little medical privacy? Jeez, I know we're all in the porn industry, but this could be damning for those performers listed in the article. http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary...ntent_ID=80458 __________________ JedMaster2112

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