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Old 04-13-2004, 12:39 PM   #51
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Old 04-13-2004, 12:40 PM   #52
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theres always Canada
Obviously, you haven't read the complete article. They mention that getting into Canada is very difficult now.

This business is ideal for de-localizing yourself, though.

Travel to South Americal and get lost...

Another tidbit.

A friend of mine, Canadian resident and citizen, visited a friend in the US, but travelling WITH that friend (US resident, US plated car) as a passenger.

The US border guard asked him if he was trying to *DEFECT* !

Wasn't it an odd choice of word ?

Merriam-Webster:
Main Entry: 2 de·fect
Pronunciation: di-'fekt
Function: intransitive verb
Etymology: Latin defectus, past participle of deficere
1 : to forsake one cause, party, or nation for another often because of a change in ideology
2 : to leave one situation (as a job) often to go over to a rival <the reporter defected to another network>
- de·fec·tor /-'fek-t&r/ noun

Etymology of the noun: Middle English, from Middle French, from Latin defectus lack, from deficere to desert, fail, from de- + facere to do
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Old 04-13-2004, 12:42 PM   #53
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The Truth hurts:

Get your goddam head out of your ass and wake up. Bush is a known member of the secret society skull and bones, a well known secret society whos initiations are known to be as close to satanic as possible. Kerry is also a Bonesman, and so is Bush Sr. and former president howard Taft, and numerous CIA directors and preidents of multinational corporations.

You need to understand who controls the world, it certainly isnt "elected" presidents, its the guys behind the scenes. wake up!

http://www.infowars.com/print/Secret...ry_bush_sb.htm

You people need to really start looking beghind the scenes and stop taking the "pretty movie" called "family owned" network news for face value. they tell us what they want us to hear and to belivee. jesus christ I feel like I'm the only one who gets it sometimes.

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Old 04-13-2004, 12:43 PM   #54
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Fight for your country if you have to

We might as well just keep going and take over the world
Hitler would be proud.

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Old 04-13-2004, 12:44 PM   #55
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Will it be like thge vietnam, draft where the rich were able to doge it and the poor/middle class gets fucked.
1- read the article: they say this will NOT be the case

2- read between the line: a possibility is that pro-freedom, stand-alone individuals with good education WILL get drafted, as a convenient way to purge them. Think Mao and Stalin's methodology...
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Old 04-13-2004, 12:44 PM   #56
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http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...+89+and+HR+163

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This is some scary shit.

Forced civil service is the same as slavery.

Does'nt matter what race or gender, we're all serving the rich.
hmmm, what country does not have a draft or mandatory service
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Old 04-13-2004, 12:47 PM   #57
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Old 04-13-2004, 12:47 PM   #58
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France does, doesnt it?
Yup, but they don't get involved in international affairs the way the US does.

I suppose they don't have top decision makers owning oil companies and armament companies...

Beside, slavery in other countries does not justify slavery elsewhere...
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Old 04-13-2004, 12:48 PM   #59
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In other words, you couldn't stick this bullshit to Bush, so you change the subject, and went the route of pandering to the simpletons.
I can pin to Bush that he had strings pulled to get in the National Guard to avoid Vietnam and then deserted and has sent the Guard to Iraq and wants more!
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Old 04-13-2004, 12:52 PM   #60
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It will never happen. Not only does it violate the basics of Freedom. It is also unconstitutional.
the draft is unconstitutional? since when?
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Old 04-13-2004, 12:52 PM   #61
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I was in the marines and the army

I am 28 now so I would not be obligated


however I have never in all 8 years met a soldier or marine that was told they could go in the military over jail in fact if you have a criminal record they wont take you
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Old 04-13-2004, 12:52 PM   #62
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I can pin to Bush that he had strings pulled to get in the National Guard to avoid Vietnam and then deserted and has sent the Guard to Iraq and wants more!
Yes, he is a piece of shizer, along with nearly every other major political figure in thE world, all pushing toward a global army and global hahahaha head in charge of all nations, finances, and populace. but understand this, Bush is pawn, and avery poor one at that. Anyone who thinks that this guy actually makes any decisions is living in a fantasy land.


New World Order -
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Old 04-13-2004, 12:55 PM   #63
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the only ones I can think of are the guys that have been in since the 70's and 80s that would have been offered the military over jail

the jobs are getting to high tech to take just anyone these days hell the M1A2 Abrams tanks I was on have computers with touch screens on them and they have radio modems so that they can pass info back and forth on the screens instead of talking
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Old 04-13-2004, 01:02 PM   #64
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damn

glad I'm 27

It makes me sad that politicians(like Bush) can expend American lives as they please... over a stupid war for oil and vengeance against Saddam


there should be some system where the whole country gets to vote on a war
okay, WTF does Bish have to do with this? He did not introduce this bill.

Do you know anything about the political process?
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Old 04-13-2004, 01:03 PM   #65
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glad I'm 27

It makes me sad that politicians(like Bush) can expend American lives as they please... over a stupid war for oil and vengeance against Saddam


there should be some system where the whole country gets to vote on a war
okay, WTF does Bush have to do with this? He did not introduce this bill.

Do you know anything about the political process?
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Old 04-13-2004, 01:05 PM   #66
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I was in the marines and the army

I am 28 now so I would not be obligated


however I have never in all 8 years met a soldier or marine that was told they could go in the military over jail in fact if you have a criminal record they wont take you
Actually, during Vietnam this was a pretty common practice
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Yes, we heard you the first time. All these fucks work together, all groomed from a very early age to do what they are doing, being pawns in a game thats bigger than they know. Evil fucks.

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Yes, we heard you the first time. All these fucks work together, all groomed from a very early age to do what they are doing, being pawns in a game thats bigger than they know. Evil fucks.

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move to Canada
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move to Canada
Canada isnt any safer, there is no running from the NWO. It will encompass the entire world, no doubt about it. You cant run forever, eventually, we'll all either fight, or give in.

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Yes, we heard you the first time. All these fucks work together, all groomed from a very early age to do what they are doing, being pawns in a game thats bigger than they know. Evil fucks.

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what does Bush have to do with this? well, he started a war, see? and...
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Yup, but they don't get involved in international affairs the way the US does.

I suppose they don't have top decision makers owning oil companies and armament companies...

Beside, slavery in other countries does not justify slavery elsewhere...
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Old 04-13-2004, 01:22 PM   #74
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the draft is unconstitutional? since when?
Since it was declared unconstitutional many years ago.
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Canada isnt any safer, there is no running from the NWO. It will encompass the entire world, no doubt about it. You cant run forever, eventually, we'll all either fight, or give in.

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Since it was declared unconstitutional many years ago.
Please enlighten me, when was it declared unconstitutional, and why have 18 year old men been registering for it anyway?
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This topic has already been discussed...

http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=267930
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I was not in favor of an all volunteer military and I am in favor of reinstituting the draft...for multiple reasons.
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why? surely an all volunteer army would be better then drafting internet geeks that don't want to be there, will be undisciplined and unreliable on the field and as already suggested in this thread start fragging officers like in 'nam.
Although it may eventually be necessary as Bush squanders all goodwill and trust as well as percieved competance with Iraq.
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There would be a mass internal revoloution inside our country before this would take place.
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As it is now very few people even know someone that has served in the military because the percentage of the population that has served is far less than 1%. As it is now few people even know someone that has a son or daughter serving...let alone actually have a family member serving. I do not know how many in congress (535 members) have a son or daughter currently serving but during the 1st Gulf War there was not a single one did. A draft will affect many more Americans...from all walks of life ...including those within government and may affect the will of the people including those within government to committ our military forces. An all volunteer Army is limited in the classification of status within the society. A draft will rise the classisfication of status within the society to include virtually all walks of life...and actually makes for a better Army...for multiple reasons.

The young people of this country should be required to serve the country that they reap the benefits of. This burden should not be borne alone by a certain class of people.

As for discipline...this has never been more than a minor problem with the military as most people will do their duty and do it well...as long as the people support our military and whatever it is that they are engaged in.

As for the "fraggings" in Vietnam...all conflicts have had their "fraggings" but on very low levels. The "fraggings" in Vietnam began to be prominent when large numbers of people at home began to take to the streets expressing their disapproval of the conflict and the draw down of forces in the theater began. Discipline became a problem as no one wanted to be the last to die in an unpopular war...so those Officers and NCO's that wanted to actually engage the enemy..became the enemy to some of our troops. There were more than 900 known "fraggings" in Vietnam which is not really that many when you consider that something along the number of 3,000,000 served.
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Since it was declared unconstitutional many years ago.
Wrong.
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95% of you are spineless pussies who don't deserve any freedoms at all. and how uninformed are you?!?! a republican would NEVER propose a draft in an election year. get a fucking clue.

and seriously.. whowever mentioned NWO, all i have is 1 thing to say

bwhahahahahhahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhaha hahahahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahaha I can't believe anyone is actually that dumb to buy into that garbage, bwhahahahahh!
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you dont get pounded in the ass everyday in regular jail for non felony crimes.
Off topic, but do you or anyone else here happen to know if guys in State Prison (Corcoran) get ass raped by any chance for gang related shooting offenses?

I was just wondering because my ex was in there for 6-7 yrs (it was a felony) but whenever I ask him if it ever really happened ( if not to him, if he ever heard of it happening to anyone in there) he would always say "no" and that jail rape happened only in the movies. I researched on the net and a lot of sites like Stop Prison Rape claim that it does happen, so I don't know why my ex is so insistant that it doesn't, and that it's all just jokes and bullshit. Most of it could be myth, but there must be some truth to it since there's so much "help groups" about it on the net.


I wonder if it is rampant. He claims that it's all separated by race in there, and that him and his friends had the big Samoan guys looking after them so no one would mess with them? Perhaps it was so traumatizing that he repressed it and doesn't want to talk about it?

I'm getting scared because we got back together after he got out of jail. I hope nothing happened to him and that he doesn't have any diseases or anything and passed it to me?

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