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Old 04-12-2004, 07:33 PM   #1
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If Bush Claimed North Korea had WMD

and was a threat to America.....


..........would you believe him?

This was asked on Meet The Press just now.

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Old 04-12-2004, 07:35 PM   #2
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Seems reasonable to assume North Korea does and is.
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Old 04-12-2004, 07:38 PM   #3
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Sure, what the hell. Might as well bomb them. I mean it is quite obvious that Americans are trying to take over and dominate the World and occupy every nation as they have historically done in the past. Japan, Germany, Italy, Vietnam, Korea, etc etc.
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Old 04-12-2004, 07:38 PM   #4
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Seems reasonable to assume North Korea does and is.
How could they be a threat to America.

They may have a limited nuclear capability, but they have no way to deliver a missle to the US.

Just as Iraq had no way to deliver a missle to the US....

Hmmmm.....

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Old 04-12-2004, 07:39 PM   #5
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Old 04-12-2004, 07:39 PM   #6
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The thing is they DO actually have WMD's. That's why we won't touch them. America isn't stupid, we wouldn't actually fuck with someone who has nuclear weapons.
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Old 04-12-2004, 07:42 PM   #7
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Sure, what the hell. Might as well bomb them. I mean it is quite obvious that Americans are trying to take over and dominate the World and occupy every nation as they have historically done in the past. Japan, Germany, Italy, Vietnam, Korea, etc etc.


The US dominates or occupies Japan, Germany, Italy, Vietnam, Korea, etc etc. ?


Fasinating.....
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Old 04-12-2004, 07:45 PM   #8
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if it was just his word and no evidence, no.
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Bush and his administration will NEVER, and you can take this to the bank, NEVER attack North Korea. Bush is not the sharpest tool in the shed but he knows not to fuck with North Korea. There are several reasons behind this and the primary one is all out Nuclear War.

North Korea has the largest standing army in the known world. Not only that, their big brother, China, has their back. Although it's written in newspapers and all sorts of other propaganda that China is pissed at North Korea, China still has N.K.'s back. The ONLY war I ever fear with against the Chinese. I'm sure we could whoop up on any other nation but there is no way in hell the U.S. would win a way against China unless it were Nuclear. Not even a Coalition of allied forces could challenge China.

North Korea also has Nukes. The U.S. invaded Iraq because they "thought" that Iraq could "possibly" have nuclear arms or similar weapons of mass destrution. We know N.K. has nukes. Not only that, we know that China has nukes. If the U.S. invades N.K. then we are certainly in the shadow of WWIII. The only war the U.S. will ever wage against N.K. is the embargo war. The only war the U.S could win against N.K. is the aforementioned ware. Anything else would be plain suicide.
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Considering they TOLD the world they have WMD, uhh...yeah. Bush is a lying fuckwad though, I wouldn't go on his word alone.
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and was a threat to America.....


..........would you believe him?

This was asked on Meet The Press just now.

That I'd do ... But I wouldn't agree for another war . They probably have some ATM anyawys
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Here's food for thought:

If we ever went to war with China they could put 100,000 men on the front line with nothing but slingshots and rocks, we would still lose. By the time the Coalition forces killed all 100,000 Chinese, another 100,000 would be there to carry on the fight. And it will go on, and on and on. It would never end. The Chinese have a large enough population that they could put 100,000 men on the front line and they will never depelete their garrison. It would be a never ending wave of Chinese men and women. Pretty scary thought, heh?

Bush may be dumb but he's surely not stupid! North Korea will NEVER be invaded.
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Old 04-12-2004, 07:53 PM   #14
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How could they be a threat to America.

They may have a limited nuclear capability, but they have no way to deliver a missle to the US.

Just as Iraq had no way to deliver a missle to the US....

Hmmmm.....

Sure about that? http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/asiapc.../12/us.nkorea/
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as far as war with NK/China, that's suicide and all the cocky cowboy attitude in the world wouldn't help the U.S out of the shit hole they'd be in if they attempted it.
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as far as war with NK/China, that's suicide and all the cocky cowboy attitude in the world wouldn't help the U.S out of the shit hole they'd be in if they attempted it.
Exactly, minus all the shit about Cowboys and our attitude.
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Here's food for thought:

If we ever went to war with China they could put 100,000 men on the front line with nothing but slingshots and rocks, we would still lose. By the time the Coalition forces killed all 100,000 Chinese, another 100,000 would be there to carry on the fight. And it will go on, and on and on. It would never end. The Chinese have a large enough population that they could put 100,000 men on the front line and they will never depelete their garrison. It would be a never ending wave of Chinese men and women. Pretty scary thought, heh?

Bush may be dumb but he's surely not stupid! North Korea will NEVER be invaded.
It doesn't matter how many men you have this day and age... its your toys and the amount of nukes you got. Macarthur saw this. Remember his line "Nuke the Bastards!".
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If the US could put their dirty nose in their business it could not be a threat.
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Sure about that? http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/asiapc.../12/us.nkorea/
CIA reports of a possible, untested, single, long range missle. And, maybe, two nuclear war heads.

If fired, the missle would be shot down 100 miles into the Pacific.

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It doesn't matter how many men you have this day and age... its your toys and the amount of nukes you got. Macarthur saw this. Remember his line "Nuke the Bastards!".
Tell that to all our boys losing their lives in Iraq. Nukes are not a conventional weapon therefore never used in Combat. Only war.
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Exactly, minus all the shit about Cowboys and our attitude.
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Your nose would be dirtier if it were buried up some Frenchman's ass, no?
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Take Nukes out of the question and the US would wipe NK and China's ass. It is called a NAVY! The US has one - NK and China, for all intensive purposes, does not. That means the US can get there and they can't get to the States.

http://www.hazegray.org/navhist/carriers/summary.htm
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Take Nukes out of the question and the US would wipe NK and China's ass. It is called a NAVY! The US has one - NK and China, for all intensive purposes, does not. That means the US can get there and they can't get to the States.

http://www.hazegray.org/navhist/carriers/summary.htm
Such a pedestrian statement. Get caught up on world facts and then get back to me. Navy smavy, it would be a REAL BAD idea.
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Tell that to all our boys losing their lives in Iraq. Nukes are not a conventional weapon therefore never used in Combat. Only war.
Were not fighting an organized military anymore in Iraq. Remember there main army was annihilated. Were fighting terrorists and rebels now... so conventional weapons don't really mean shit when some fanatic who blends into a crowd of innocents straps on semtex and decides to go after someone.

NK and China are countries with an organized military. When you fight an orgranized military its a whole different ball game.
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Were not fighting an organized military anymore in Iraq. Remember there main army was annihilated. Were fighting terrorists and rebels now... so conventional weapons don't really mean shit when some fanatic who blends into a crowd of innocents straps on semtex and decides to go after someone.

NK and China are countries with an organized military. When you fight an orgranized military its a whole different ball game.
Ok, what makes you think the Chinese and N.K.s would fight an organized war? Why not learn from the Iraqi's mistakes and wage an urban and terrorist war? Seems very feasible to me.
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This was asked on Meet The Press just now.

Forget North Korea, the Neocons are looking at Iran to liberate next.
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Sure, what the hell. Might as well bomb them. I mean it is quite obvious that Americans are trying to take over and dominate the World and occupy every nation as they have historically done in the past. Japan, Germany, Italy, Vietnam, Korea, etc etc.

Ok idiot child. That was one of the dumbest posts every on GFY!
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How could they be a threat to America.

They may have a limited nuclear capability, but they have no way to deliver a missle to the US.

Just as Iraq had no way to deliver a missle to the US....

Hmmmm.....

They COULD deliver it to SOUTH KOREA and JAPAN with whom we have treaties with and troops in their countries. Would definitely put us at war with them.

And, you have to worry about the knowlege they have about making bombs (and the plutonium) getting out to terrorists too.

Frankly, there is 100 times the case for war (going on Bush's criteria) against North Korea than EVER existed for Iraq.
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CIA reports of a possible, untested, single, long range missle. And, maybe, two nuclear war heads.

If fired, the missle would be shot down 100 miles into the Pacific.

Shot down by WHAT? We do NOT have any effective anti-ballistic missle system currently.
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Take Nukes out of the question and the US would wipe NK and China's ass. It is called a NAVY! The US has one - NK and China, for all intensive purposes, does not. That means the US can get there and they can't get to the States.

http://www.hazegray.org/navhist/carriers/summary.htm

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and was a threat to America.....


..........would you believe him?

This was asked on Meet The Press just now.

North Korea also claimed North Korea had WMD's and claimed they were a threat to America.

Should anyone believe them?
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Sanction/embargo/contain ALWAYS works. It's like playing a poker game where you've ALWAYS got a better hand.

Bush HOWEVER wants a legacy; he says it himself: "I am a war president."

No president has ever been so cavalier and proud and so shit-eatingly HAPPY about sending troops to die, "justified" or not.

Or is he really that STUPID? As fun as it is to say yep, strategery, the man and his henchmen are NOT stupid.

The Bush administration has BRILLIANTLY engaged in psy-ops with the unwashed masses here in America. Statements like "I am a war president" exemplify this.

Allude to the ONE thing the idiots remember from high school history -- "war today equals prosperity tomorrow" -- and laugh your way to the electoral bank with the moron vote, the most powerful demographic in the US.
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The first is certainly true, the second is debateable. Looks to me as if both administrations have way too much pride and are letting it fuck with them. No way the US would ever invade NK unless it attacked first though, nohahahaha wins a nuclear war.<br><br>
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