Canadians: want lower gas prices?

[CDSmith]

Maybe a variation of this will work in the USA too?


(forwarded to me via email)

<b>Having some control over gas prices... </b>


I hear we are going to hit close to $1.00 a litre by the summer.

Want gasoline prices to come down?
We need to take some intelligent, united action.
Phillip Hollsworth, offered this good idea: This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy gas on a certain day" campaign that was going around last April or May!
The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselves by refusing to buy gas.
It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them.
BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can really work.

Please read it and join with us!
By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at about 69.9 cents a litre is super cheap. Me too! It is currently 76.9 for regular unleaded in my town. Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a Litre of gas is CHEAP at 69.9, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace....not sellers. With the price of gasoline going up more each day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of gas come down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing THEIR
gas!
And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. How?
Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying gas. But we CAN have an impact on gas
prices If we all act together to force a price war.
Here's the idea:
For the rest of this year, DON"T purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest companies (which now are PETRO CANADA, SHELL ). If they are not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an
impact we need to reach literally millions of Shell , Petro Canada gas buyers.
It's really simple to do!! Now, don't wimp out on me at this point...keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!
I am sending this note to about thirty people. If each of you sends it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000). and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION
consumers! If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each,then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes one level further you guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!
Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all.
How long would all that take? If each of us sends this email out to ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!!
I'll bet you didn't think you and I had that much potential, did you?
Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on.

PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES AND KEEP THEM DOWN.
THIS CAN REALLY WORK.
YOU KNOW THEY LOVE HOLIDAYS AND SUMMER TRAVELERS.




Buy Mohawk or Domo.

[CDSmith]

Okay, it's either too much to read, or not enough drama, or no one wants lower gas prices.


Perhaps a poll.......

[chowda]

they change prices usually on tuesdays thrusdays and friday afternoon pending holidays.

they throw a curve ball once a while.

[piker]

I read half of it. And apparently the mind of a 13yr old came up with this scheme. Is this supposed to be a joke or is this kid serious. If you stop buying gas from shell and whoever they aren't going to lower their price. They are going to go out of business you moron. It's not like they have a huge margin the margin is maybe 10 cents on the gallon and 5 cents on the litre. So they aren't goint to eat money so you can drive your surburban around cheap.

[twistyneck]

The real way to lower gas prices is to lower gas taxes.

[piker]

I got an idea, lets all boycot the biggest sponsors in the business (who can be debated later). That way we can force a price war they will be forced to pay us more then they make in a year off a signup. Sounds awesome guys just keep posting this message on other boards we got to have every webmaster on borad.

[piker]

Originally posted by twistyneck
The real way to lower gas prices is to lower gas taxes.

That or lessen the dependency on it. Take the bus guys...

[CDSmith]

Originally posted by piker
I read half of it. And apparently the mind of a 13yr old came up with this scheme. Is this supposed to be a joke or is this kid serious. If you stop buying gas from shell and whoever they aren't going to lower their price. They are going to go out of business you moron. It's not like they have a huge margin the margin is maybe 10 cents on the gallon and 5 cents on the litre. So they aren't goint to eat money so you can drive your surburban around cheap.

Ahh, the flying "moron" attack. Very childish.


A mega corporation like Shell Canada is not going to "go out of business", only a moron would say something as idiotic as that. They will simply lower their price of gas, like the plan says they will. Once they lower it, customers will flock to them again in droves.

Gas station companies have gas wars all the time here in Winnipeg. I'm sure they do it everywhere across Canada from time to time, so I'm left sitting here wondering, who is the moron here?

I'm thinking you.

[CDSmith]

Originally posted by twistyneck
The real way to lower gas prices is to lower gas taxes.

Accomplished through election, which begs the question.... which of the three federal parties currently have lower gas taxes on the table?

[SicChild]

Also ask all the people you send it to, to mail you $1, and all the people below them, to do the same, and so on.

[Gheenz]

Originally posted by CDSmith
Ahh, the flying "moron" attack. Very childish.


A mega corporation like Shell Canada is not going to "go out of business", only a moron would say something as idiotic as that. They will simply lower their price of gas, like the plan says they will. Once they lower it, customers will flock to them again in droves.

Gas station companies have gas wars all the time here in Winnipeg. I'm sure they do it everywhere across Canada from time to time, so I'm left sitting here wondering, who is the moron here?

I'm thinking you.

I'm gonna have to agree w/you. They have price wars all the time; here in the US especially.

[CDSmith]

Originally posted by SicChild
Also ask all the people you send it to, to mail you $1, and all the people below them, to do the same, and so on.

Hmm... you may be on to something there.

[Jimbo]

why dont you just bulk mail the whole world that message, should do the trick LOL.... do you really need us?

[piker]

Originally posted by CDSmith
Ahh, the flying "moron" attack. Very childish.


A mega corporation like Shell Canada is not going to "go out of business", only a moron would say something as idiotic as that. They will simply lower their price of gas, like the plan says they will. Once they lower it, customers will flock to them again in droves.

Gas station companies have gas wars all the time here in Winnipeg. I'm sure they do it everywhere across Canada from time to time, so I'm left sitting here wondering, who is the moron here?

I'm thinking you.

What part about the small margin did you miss. By the way, for your knowledge margin the difference in what they charge versus what they pay for it. So think this one through. iIf they buy gays for .60/litre and they have to pay the overhead of running a gas station such employees, rent, utlities, insurance.. etc... and they may want to actually eat for themselves. How much they can sell a gallon for without going out of business? The answer is what they are currently charging. They maybe able to squeeze out .05 on tuesdays to improve customer loyalty but it becomes a point where if they do this every day whats the point of owning that gas station might as buy a mcdonalds or some shit.

[twistyneck]

Originally posted by CDSmith
Accomplished through election, which begs the question.... which of the three federal parties currently have lower gas taxes on the table?

Accomplished through revolution. Vote with bullets. Oh, wait a minute, you can't have guns in Canada. Hmmm... guess you are screwed then.

[piker]

Originally posted by milhouse_dick


I'm gonna have to agree w/you. They have price wars all the time; here in the US especially.

Let me put it in perspective for you sponsors every now and then have $100/signup days when we know thats more then can make from those signups but they do it for other reasons gain webmasters... What would happen if sponsors had $100/signup every day?

[Spunky]

The station owners get only a couple pennies a litre.They make money off the snacks and shit.The government takes a good percentage of it. Bastards

[CDSmith]

Originally posted by piker
It's not like they have a huge margin the margin is maybe 10 cents on the gallon and 5 cents on the litre.

Where are you pulling these figures out of, your ass? The profit margin is larger than people think, trust me. If the price of gas is 75 cents at the pump today, and next week something aweful happens in the middle east say, I'll tell you right now that the following week the price of gas will rise <i>even though the USA and Canada have millions upon millions of barrels of oil in reserve</i>.

The price of gas is raised almost instantly after every catastrophe, yet when you really look at it you see that it really is a needless thing the oil companies do. They need to get a clear message that it is a buyer's market, not the t'other way around. If the above plan won't work in your opinion, then would you mind coming up with a better solution other than "everyone should take da bus" please?

[CDSmith]

Originally posted by piker
Let me put it in perspective for you sponsors every now and then have $100/signup days when we know thats more then can make from those signups but they do it for other reasons gain webmasters... What would happen if sponsors had $100/signup every day?

You are putting nothing in perspective, but rather you are clouding the issue. Follow along here... we're talking about gasoline prices, not signups and sponsors. You're attempting to compare apples to zebras.

[synergysex]

The way to lower gas prices is to not to buy gasoline.

[piker]

Originally posted by CDSmith
You are putting nothing in perspective, but rather you are clouding the issue. Follow along here... we're talking about gasoline prices, not signups and sponsors. You're attempting to compare apples to zebras.

You are missing the point.. Which doesn't suprise me being you are canadian. The point is nothing more then gas stations are not going to sell gas cheaper then they pay for it + overhead on a regular basis. This is true for any business. But hey, maybe you can force companies to give their gas away.

[CDSmith]

Originally posted by piker
What part about the small margin did you miss. By the way, for your knowledge margin the difference in what they charge versus what they pay for it. So think this one through. iIf they buy gays for .60/litre and they have to pay the overhead of running a gas station such employees, rent, utlities, insurance.. etc... and they may want to actually eat for themselves. How much they can sell a gallon for without going out of business? The answer is what they are currently charging. They maybe able to squeeze out .05 on tuesdays to improve customer loyalty but it becomes a point where if they do this every day whats the point of owning that gas station might as buy a mcdonalds or some shit.

Domo just put out coupons for a 7 cent per litre savings, a sheet of 9 coupons, twice in the last 3 months. Safeway offers their customers 5 cents per litre off, at least at the one near my house. Canadian Tire gas stations offer several cents per litre off, so does the Superstore stations.

I'm sure that if two of the largest oil companies like Shell and Petrocanada were to feel the crunch for even a few days or a week they would start lowering their prices, which in turn would cause all the other companies to do the same.


But hey, if you don't want lower gas prices, then here's a thought: Don't do it.


Clear enough?

[piker]

Originally posted by CDSmith
Where are you pulling these figures out of, your ass? The profit margin is larger than people think, trust me. If the price of gas is 75 cents at the pump today, and next week something aweful happens in the middle east say, I'll tell you right now that the following week the price of gas will rise <i>even though the USA and Canada have millions upon millions of barrels of oil in reserve</i>.

The price of gas is raised almost instantly after every catastrophe, yet when you really look at it you see that it really is a needless thing the oil companies do. They need to get a clear message that it is a buyer's market, not the t'other way around. If the above plan won't work in your opinion, then would you mind coming up with a better solution other than "everyone should take da bus" please?

My family is in the gas business we own around 40 gas stations. The margin is only a few cents on a gallon/litre. I am sure if you did some research you could come up with that margin. One simple phone call to a refinery would do it. The gas station owners even shell dont goto the oil field and mine it themselves they buy it from people. Once in for all im going to try to make the simple commmon sense point. Would you run a business when you buy the product more then you sell it for?

[CDSmith]

Originally posted by piker
You are missing the point.. Which doesn't suprise me being you are canadian.

Ahh, more foolish insults. It's coming into focus who I'm talking to here. You're not even Canadian, no wonder it's like talking to a dyslexia victim. I should have known the second you started comparing greedy oil companies to adult sponsors.


Hey, if you're happy paying $2-3 bucks a gallon then who am I to tell you you can't?

[piker]

Originally posted by CDSmith
Domo just put out coupons for a 7 cent per litre savings, a sheet of 9 coupons, twice in the last 3 months. Safeway offers their customers 5 cents per litre off, at least at the one near my house. Canadian Tire gas stations offer several cents per litre off, so does the Superstore stations.

I'm sure that if two of the largest oil companies like Shell and Petrocanada were to feel the crunch for even a few days or a week they would start lowering their prices, which in turn would cause all the other companies to do the same.


But hey, if you don't want lower gas prices, then here's a thought: Don't do it.


Clear enough?

haha, you obviously don't understand marketing and you claim you are an adult webmaster. I guess we know why you are trying to start this rediculus movement to lower gas a few cents.

[CDSmith]

Originally posted by piker
My family is in the gas business

Is your last name "Bush"?

[piker]

Originally posted by CDSmith
Is your last name "Bush"?

Yes everyone in the oil business is named Bush. Good One...

[Rich]

Don't buy gas anywhere but a co-op.

[dready]

Want to lower how much you spend on gas? Buy a more efficient car.

[CDSmith]

Originally posted by piker
haha, you obviously don't understand marketing and you claim you are an adult webmaster. I guess we know why you are trying to start this rediculus movement to lower gas a few cents.

I'll speak in short sentances so you can grasp a few concepts here bozo....

1) I am not the one who wrote up that letter.

2) It is plainly written right in the letter who wrote it.

3) I understand marketing perfectly. The point of mentioning the coupons is to show that they can afford to knock off some of the price.

4) You are on the side of the oil companies. Cry me a river about how it might hurt the poor oil companies. boo hoo.

5) They would hurt for about a week at most, and would lower their price to compete. It's not a tough concept to grasp is it?

6) I really don't care if you don't like the idea.

7) See #6.

8) See #7

9) I Still think your last name is Bush.

10) I know guys that have sent this plan to several hundred Canadians and Americans. If it takes off and it works, I say more power to them.

[Basic_man]

Originally posted by piker
I read half of it. And apparently the mind of a 13yr old came up with this scheme. Is this supposed to be a joke or is this kid serious. If you stop buying gas from shell and whoever they aren't going to lower their price. They are going to go out of business you moron. It's not like they have a huge margin the margin is maybe 10 cents on the gallon and 5 cents on the litre. So they aren't goint to eat money so you can drive your surburban around cheap.

Same opinion here!

[CDSmith]

Originally posted by Basic_man
Same opinion here!

But you're from Quebec. They love high gas prices there.

[sixxxth_sense]

but SHELL has the best GASOLINE!!!! IT does my hahahaha good, i mean my car good!

[CDSmith]

Originally posted by sixxxth_sense
but SHELL has the best GASOLINE!!!! IT does my hahahaha good, i mean my car good!

You're not supposed to sniff it man.

[sixxxth_sense]

Originally posted by CDSmith
You're not supposed to sniff it man.

how do i know that u dont own shares in the other gas companies?

and when do we start to buy it from SHELL what price is good for me?

when they lower them we start buying again and they start raising again... I dont think that this will work


nice try though man!

[BRISK]

This idea is so flawed.

[iwantchixx]

Originally posted by piker


That or lessen the dependency on it. Take the bus guys...

I take it you don't own a car, otherwise you wouldn't be here going on like a pompous fag. Go buy a car, then go to a gas tank and pour $20 in... you'll get just a wee bit pissed like the rest of us when that gas gauge needle hardly moves a full bar.

[CDSmith]

Originally posted by sixxxth_sense
how do i know that u dont own shares in the other gas companies?

and when do we start to buy it from SHELL what price is good for me?

when they lower them we start buying again and they start raising again... I dont think that this will work


nice try though man!

It will cause a gas war. Not only would Shell and Petrocanada lower their prices, but that would cause all the other gas companies to lower theirs in order to compete. Have you not payed attention when there was a gas war going on in your town? There are gas wars here in Winnipeg several times per year, and I'll tell you that no gas station wants to see 200 cars lined up at their cheaper competition down the street.

It would send a message to the big oil companies that they don't have as much control on the price as they think they do.

[StuartD]

Originally posted by piker


You are missing the point.. Which doesn't suprise me being you are canadian.

Excuse me? Don't push it. If you have a problem with someone, don't go after an entire country.

You just end up making yourself look even more childish than you already are.

[JFK]

Originally posted by twistyneck
The real way to lower gas prices is to lower gas taxes.

that will never happen, even if it did, the greedy bastards would keep the spread

[Danny]

Originally posted by piker


What part about the small margin did you miss. By the way, for your knowledge margin the difference in what they charge versus what they pay for it. So think this one through. iIf they buy gays for .60/litre and they have to pay the overhead of running a gas station such employees, rent, utlities, insurance.. etc... and they may want to actually eat for themselves. How much they can sell a gallon for without going out of business? The answer is what they are currently charging. They maybe able to squeeze out .05 on tuesdays to improve customer loyalty but it becomes a point where if they do this every day whats the point of owning that gas station might as buy a mcdonalds or some shit.

Sorry to bust your bubble but knowing a couple local gas station owners here (Brandon Manitoba). Their margins are around 30 cents right now. That doesn't include labor costs or other overhead which I'm sure eats up some cost. Personally I goto Mohawk they at least give the same price on there mid grade gas as they do on there low grade. Also with superstore and Canadian tire gas bars giving a 3 - 10 cent rebate you can spend at there stores you know they have space to move on the price.

[ChatCash_Rob]

i think it's a good idea.. beats doing nothing.

does shell = sunoco ? i need the high octane myself.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally posted by JFK


that will never happen, even if it did, the greedy bastards would keep the spread

its not going to happen but it has nothing to do with greed.

in the next decade the places to get to fuels is in extreme climates and conditions thus rising the cost of fuels.

check some of these links to articvles.

some written by people who have worked for exxon and oil companies for 40+ years.

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/BreakingNews.html

very informative page on oil.